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date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:20:02 +0800,    group: microsoft.public.windowsnt.registry        back       


installing network card   
hi!
i installing a new network card 3C905B-TXNM fast ethernet link XL PCI.my old
one is 3C905B-TX fast ethernet link XL PCI.
i uninstall the old one by removing the services and TCI/IP on the network
properties.when i try to install the new one theres a setup message occur
saying "Registry subkey already exists" then when i click ok theres another
one appear saying "Unable to remove Name space provider" then i ckick ok
..when i ask if i have a DHCP i choose yes then error message appear "The
network failed to start"
i cannot install the network card.
please help.
date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:20:02 +0800   author:   jaypee

Re: installing network card   
I am no Expert.

I would first go into control panel/add remove programs/
on the left side are four vertical buttons click on the one that says
Windows services or programs or something like that
second or third button down from the top you should find
a window with networks something or other. I would
uncheck that box to clean the network of everything then
restart or something then after a successful uninstall
I would go back this time and recheck it then reboot to
put everything the way its supposed to be in the first place
I cant be exact here because network stuff has always
given me troubles too...escpecially those ethernet cards.
The only protocol I know you absolutely need is TCP/IP
possibly Windows related stuff....that says windows whatever.

You might loose all contact with the outside world while you
try this so you might want to do a lot of reading before you try it.

JUst thought I would try to be of help even though I am
extremely ignorant here.

I have Windows XP PRO  FYI  and I must have damaged my registry
playing around because none of those buttons have any script
associated with them but on my sisters machine who also has XP
all those buttons say what they are.
Maybe you can tell me how to get the script back associated with
those ADD/Remove buttons ???

After you get things back to normal you might
download and run something called CCLEANER or
Crap Cleaner...it is free and not dangerous if you
do not mess with the default settings.

It is quite good at finding registry entries with
unassociated programs and stuff and will back up any
registry items ir deletes so you can always
go back and click on the reg file to reinstall
the deleted items.
You might have to run the cleaner two or three
times in a row to get everything because
one deletion might lead to another problem.
Sort of a spider web of intregue this registry thing.
Good Luck.


Regards.


"jaypee"  wrote in message news:%23pZ4FirYGHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> hi!
> i installing a new network card 3C905B-TXNM fast ethernet link XL PCI.my old
> one is 3C905B-TX fast ethernet link XL PCI.
> i uninstall the old one by removing the services and TCI/IP on the network
> properties.when i try to install the new one theres a setup message occur
> saying "Registry subkey already exists" then when i click ok theres another
> one appear saying "Unable to remove Name space provider" then i ckick ok
> .when i ask if i have a DHCP i choose yes then error message appear "The
> network failed to start"
> i cannot install the network card.
> please help.
>
>
date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 01:04:46 -0700   author:   gmv lid

Re: installing network card   
gmv wrote:

> I have Windows XP PRO  FYI  and I must have damaged my registry
> playing around because none of those buttons have any script
> associated with them but on my sisters machine who also has XP
> all those buttons say what they are.
> Maybe you can tell me how to get the script back associated with
> those ADD/Remove buttons ???
> 
> After you get things back to normal you might
> download and run something called CCLEANER or
> Crap Cleaner...it is free and not dangerous if you
> do not mess with the default settings.
> 
> It is quite good at finding registry entries with
> unassociated programs and stuff and will back up any
> registry items ir deletes so you can always
> go back and click on the reg file to reinstall
> the deleted items.
> You might have to run the cleaner two or three
> times in a row to get everything because
> one deletion might lead to another problem.
> Sort of a spider web of intregue this registry thing.

Ever consider the possibility that your problems are caused by these so 
called "safe" registry cleaners?  9 times out of 10 these cleaners cause 
more harm than good.  Although CCleaner is highly rated and might have 
certain qualities it is still a tool to use with much care.

Repeated scrubbing of the registry, as you described, "You might have to 
run the cleaner two or three times in a row to get everything..."  is a 
sure fire way to screw up your operating system.

It goes like this:  The registry cleaner does a sweep and identify a 
valid key as invalid, you remove the key.  On the second sweep the 
cleaner says "Key XYZ is not present so key 123 must be useless..."  so 
you delete key 123.  And the cascade of errors begins, sometimes or most 
often minor problems but at time complete fiascoes!  Quite often when 
you restart Windows or open a program that needed the deleted keys it 
will create new keys but it may not have the proper values.

The only thing worse than this foolishness of over cleaning with a 
registry cleaner is using 2 or more cleaners from different vendors, a 
recipe for complete disaster!

These registry cleaner tools have certain uses and can be quite helpful 
when doing troubleshooting, other than that LEAVE THE REGISTRY ALONE! 
It needs no cleaning!

John
date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:19:37 -0300   author:   John John

Re: installing network card   
Hello Mr, Kennedy;

You might be right but since Microsoft will not
make a PROPER registry cleaner and fixerupper
I just have to gamble on possibly reinstalling
everything.

That damn registry keeps all kinds of old
information I seek to obliterate.
As well as the cache/page files.

If praying meant anything at all id just pray
for a decent and complete operating system
no matter who made it.
To be decent it must be also affordable
by anyone wanting a computer.

I was taught at the university that a technological
advancement is no advancement at all if the
thing which is advanced becomes more expensive.
Everytime you up the price there will be fewer people willing and able to obtain it legally.

Regards:
gmv

"John John"  wrote in message news:ehcRbP7YGHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> gmv wrote:
>
>> I have Windows XP PRO  FYI  and I must have damaged my registry
>> playing around because none of those buttons have any script
>> associated with them but on my sisters machine who also has XP
>> all those buttons say what they are.
>> Maybe you can tell me how to get the script back associated with
>> those ADD/Remove buttons ???
>>
>> After you get things back to normal you might
>> download and run something called CCLEANER or
>> Crap Cleaner...it is free and not dangerous if you
>> do not mess with the default settings.
>>
>> It is quite good at finding registry entries with
>> unassociated programs and stuff and will back up any
>> registry items ir deletes so you can always
>> go back and click on the reg file to reinstall
>> the deleted items.
>> You might have to run the cleaner two or three
>> times in a row to get everything because
>> one deletion might lead to another problem.
>> Sort of a spider web of intregue this registry thing.
>
> Ever consider the possibility that your problems are caused by these so called "safe" registry cleaners?  9 times out of 10 these 
> cleaners cause more harm than good.  Although CCleaner is highly rated and might have certain qualities it is still a tool to use 
> with much care.
>
> Repeated scrubbing of the registry, as you described, "You might have to run the cleaner two or three times in a row to get 
> everything..."  is a sure fire way to screw up your operating system.
>
> It goes like this:  The registry cleaner does a sweep and identify a valid key as invalid, you remove the key.  On the second 
> sweep the cleaner says "Key XYZ is not present so key 123 must be useless..."  so you delete key 123.  And the cascade of errors 
> begins, sometimes or most often minor problems but at time complete fiascoes!  Quite often when you restart Windows or open a 
> program that needed the deleted keys it will create new keys but it may not have the proper values.
>
> The only thing worse than this foolishness of over cleaning with a registry cleaner is using 2 or more cleaners from different 
> vendors, a recipe for complete disaster!
>
> These registry cleaner tools have certain uses and can be quite helpful when doing troubleshooting, other than that LEAVE THE 
> REGISTRY ALONE! It needs no cleaning!
>
> John
>
date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:20:09 -0700   author:   gmv lid

Re: installing network card   
This article should sort it.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];151237

-- 

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"jaypee" wrote:
| hi!
| i installing a new network card 3C905B-TXNM fast ethernet link XL PCI.my 
old
| one is 3C905B-TX fast ethernet link XL PCI.
| i uninstall the old one by removing the services and TCI/IP on the network
| properties.when i try to install the new one theres a setup message occur
| saying "Registry subkey already exists" then when i click ok theres 
another
| one appear saying "Unable to remove Name space provider" then i ckick ok
| .when i ask if i have a DHCP i choose yes then error message appear "The
| network failed to start"
| i cannot install the network card.
| please help.
|
|
date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:12:29 -0600   author:   Dave Patrick

Re: installing network card   
"gmv" <gmvoeth@yahoo.invalid> wrote in message news:uII%23L7rYGHA.3832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I am no Expert.
>
> I would first go into control panel/add remove programs/
> on the left side are four vertical buttons click on the one that says
> Windows services or programs or something like that
> second or third button down from the top you should find
> a window with networks something or other. I would
> uncheck that box to clean the network of everything then
> restart or something then after a successful uninstall
> I would go back this time and recheck it then reboot to
> put everything the way its supposed to be in the first place
> I cant be exact here because network stuff has always
> given me troubles too...escpecially those ethernet cards.
> The only protocol I know you absolutely need is TCP/IP
> possibly Windows related stuff....that says windows whatever.
>
> You might loose all contact with the outside world while you
> try this so you might want to do a lot of reading before you try it.
>
> JUst thought I would try to be of help even though I am
> extremely ignorant here.
>
> I have Windows XP PRO  FYI  and I must have damaged my registry
> playing around because none of those buttons have any script
> associated with them but on my sisters machine who also has XP
> all those buttons say what they are.
> Maybe you can tell me how to get the script back associated with
> those ADD/Remove buttons ???
>
> After you get things back to normal you might
> download and run something called CCLEANER or
> Crap Cleaner...it is free and not dangerous if you
> do not mess with the default settings.
>
> It is quite good at finding registry entries with
> unassociated programs and stuff and will back up any
> registry items ir deletes so you can always
> go back and click on the reg file to reinstall
> the deleted items.
> You might have to run the cleaner two or three
> times in a row to get everything because
> one deletion might lead to another problem.
> Sort of a spider web of intregue this registry thing.
> Good Luck.
>
>
> Regards.
>


After Lots of digging in the machine to find the lost
text/script for the otherwise unlabled buttons
in the add remove programs area in the control panel
I got the bright idea to try changing my desktop
theme.  Right Click Desktop | Properties | Themes |
        Select any other theme

Low and Behold | Go Tell It On The mountain | Jesus
has risen from the dead.... The button names are back again.

                :-)
And it only took me three days of searching.
Dont laugh too hard because if you play with
windows long and hard enough something like this
might also happen to you.

I was so afraid my system was damaged that I went and
SlipStreamed my install disk with SP2 and made an
updated disk to ease the install process if needed.
I used nlite to do this and everything went well
except the CD I produced does not auto boot.
I understand auto boot is a function of the bios
so I will have to research making an auto boot CD also.

Thanks for all your help yous guys.

Regards;
date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:59:47 -0700   author:   gmv lid

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