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date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:45:22 -0500,    group: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers        back       


Reinstalling WinXP   
My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm thinking of
reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and starting fresh. I'm 
worried about activation problems when using Microsoft Update after the new 
OS install.  Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and Drivers 
CD that came with the system, using the Recovery Console, or finding a corporate 
version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an activation issue?

Thanks!
Scott
date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:45:22 -0500   author:   Scott

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
Scott wrote:
> My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm
> thinking of reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and
> starting fresh. I'm worried about activation problems when using
> Microsoft Update after the new OS install.
>
> Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and Drivers
> CD that came with the system, using the Recovery Console, or
> finding a corporate version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an
> activation issue?

If you are asking whether you are better off stealing a copy - the answer is 
no.
("... finding a corporate version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an 
activation issue?")

Just use the CDs that came with your system for recovery.

My recommendation is to download/install/run and print the results of a 
Belarc Advisor scan.  It will give you all sorts of information that may 
help you later.

Have an SP3 installation CD ready if the initial install is SP1 or above - 
have SP2 and an SP3 CD ready if the initial install will nto be SP1 or 
above.

Remove the old hard drive *as is* when you put in the new hard disk drive - 
in that way - worst case - you can put it back in and have lost nothing.

You should have no trouble with activation - any FUD you have read is likely 
going to be just that for you... Fear, uncertainty and doubt that turn out 
to have no basis in reality.

-- 
Shenan Stanley
     MS-MVP
-- 
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:53:17 -0500   author:   Shenan Stanley

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
"Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and Drivers
CD that came with the system" - Yes!

You should not have any problem activating since you have been using the PC 
for 6 years since you last had to activate Windows.

Remove the old hard drive before you start, that way there is no chance of 
accidentally erasing it and any data files you may need.
If possible burn those important data file to a CD/DVD as an extra 
precaution.

As Shenan mentioned: Belarc Advisor will list the a whole lot of info, 
including the Windows install key code, Application key codes and other 
information about your hardware and software installed on your current hard 
drive.

Since your PC is 6 years old it may not support 48Bit LBA (drives larger 
than 137GB), so check that your BIOS reports the correct drive size when you 
connect your new drive.


JS



"Scott"  wrote in message 
news:486FA522.E02F3ADF@uslink.net...
> My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm thinking of
> reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and starting fresh. I'm
> worried about activation problems when using Microsoft Update after the 
> new
> OS install.  Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and 
> Drivers
> CD that came with the system, using the Recovery Console, or finding a 
> corporate
> version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an activation issue?
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:55:55 -0400   author:   JS @

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:45:22 -0500, Scott  wrote:

> My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm thinking of
> reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and starting fresh. I'm 
> worried about activation problems when using Microsoft Update after the new 
> OS install. 


There is no reason to expect any activation problems. What you want to
do is perfectly legal.


> Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and Drivers 
> CD that came with the system,


Yes


> using the Recovery Console, 


That's not an option. You can't reinstall that way.


> or finding a corporate 
> version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an activation issue?


There is no such thing as a "corporate version." The term "corporate
version" is widely used for pirated copies. Using a pirated copy is
not only illegal, it also is among the riskier things you can do.

-- 
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:58:13 -0700   author:   Ken Blake, MVP in

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:45:22 -0500, Scott  wrote:
> 
> > My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm thinking of
> > reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and starting fresh. I'm
> > worried about activation problems when using Microsoft Update after the new
> > OS install.
> 
> There is no reason to expect any activation problems. What you want to
> do is perfectly legal.
> 
> > Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and Drivers
> > CD that came with the system,
> 
> Yes
> 
> > using the Recovery Console,
> 
> That's not an option. You can't reinstall that way.
> 
> > or finding a corporate
> > version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an activation issue?
> 
> There is no such thing as a "corporate version." The term "corporate
> version" is widely used for pirated copies. Using a pirated copy is
> not only illegal, it also is among the riskier things you can do.
> 
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken,

My concern is that when using Windows Update, from time to time it installs something
like a Windows verification tool...to determine if I'm using a valid version of Windows
XP. Since I'll be using a different hard drive, will the software think I'm on a different
computer?

If you don't think this will be a problem, then I will definitely use the WinXP Operating 
System and Drivers CD's that shipped with the system.  

Just curious, how would a "corporate version" of XP (maybe pirated) be risky to use?

Thanks again!
Scott
date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:21:15 -0500   author:   Scott

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
No problem, I've moved and or installed Windows from a smaller driver to a 
larger drive and then back to the smaller drive and then one last time back 
to the larger drive. I had no activation problems.

Now as to the  ""corporate version" of XP (maybe pirated)", you are just 
asking for trouble sooner or later.

JS

"Scott"  wrote in message 
news:48701E0B.26929D0E@uslink.net...
>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:45:22 -0500, Scott  wrote:
>>
>> > My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm thinking 
>> > of
>> > reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and starting fresh. 
>> > I'm
>> > worried about activation problems when using Microsoft Update after the 
>> > new
>> > OS install.
>>
>> There is no reason to expect any activation problems. What you want to
>> do is perfectly legal.
>>
>> > Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and Drivers
>> > CD that came with the system,
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> > using the Recovery Console,
>>
>> That's not an option. You can't reinstall that way.
>>
>> > or finding a corporate
>> > version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an activation issue?
>>
>> There is no such thing as a "corporate version." The term "corporate
>> version" is widely used for pirated copies. Using a pirated copy is
>> not only illegal, it also is among the riskier things you can do.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
> Ken,
>
> My concern is that when using Windows Update, from time to time it 
> installs something
> like a Windows verification tool...to determine if I'm using a valid 
> version of Windows
> XP. Since I'll be using a different hard drive, will the software think 
> I'm on a different
> computer?
>
> If you don't think this will be a problem, then I will definitely use the 
> WinXP Operating
> System and Drivers CD's that shipped with the system.
>
> Just curious, how would a "corporate version" of XP (maybe pirated) be 
> risky to use?
>
> Thanks again!
> Scott
date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:33:18 -0400   author:   JS @

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:21:15 -0500, Scott  wrote:

> 
> 
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:45:22 -0500, Scott  wrote:
> > 
> > > My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm thinking of
> > > reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and starting fresh. I'm
> > > worried about activation problems when using Microsoft Update after the new
> > > OS install.
> > 
> > There is no reason to expect any activation problems. What you want to
> > do is perfectly legal.
> > 
> > > Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and Drivers
> > > CD that came with the system,
> > 
> > Yes
> > 
> > > using the Recovery Console,
> > 
> > That's not an option. You can't reinstall that way.
> > 
> > > or finding a corporate
> > > version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an activation issue?
> > 
> > There is no such thing as a "corporate version." The term "corporate
> > version" is widely used for pirated copies. Using a pirated copy is
> > not only illegal, it also is among the riskier things you can do.
> > 
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> 
> Ken,
> 
> My concern is that when using Windows Update, from time to time it installs something
> like a Windows verification tool...to determine if I'm using a valid version of Windows
> XP. Since I'll be using a different hard drive, will the software think I'm on a different
> computer?


You should have no problems. It should activate normally over the
internet. Worst case, you might have to activate by a quick voice call
to an 800 number, but that's not likely in your case.


> If you don't think this will be a problem, then I will definitely use the WinXP Operating 
> System and Drivers CD's that shipped with the system.  


I don't see any reason to expect a problem.

 
> Just curious, how would a "corporate version" of XP (maybe pirated) be risky to use?


Any non-genuine software can contain whatever the person who created
it wants it to contain, including malware.

-- 
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:49:21 -0700   author:   Ken Blake, MVP in

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:21:15 -0500, Scott  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:45:22 -0500, Scott  wrote:
> > >
> > > > My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm thinking of
> > > > reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and starting fresh. I'm
> > > > worried about activation problems when using Microsoft Update after the new
> > > > OS install.
> > >
> > > There is no reason to expect any activation problems. What you want to
> > > do is perfectly legal.
> > >
> > > > Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and Drivers
> > > > CD that came with the system,
> > >
> > > Yes
> > >
> > > > using the Recovery Console,
> > >
> > > That's not an option. You can't reinstall that way.
> > >
> > > > or finding a corporate
> > > > version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an activation issue?
> > >
> > > There is no such thing as a "corporate version." The term "corporate
> > > version" is widely used for pirated copies. Using a pirated copy is
> > > not only illegal, it also is among the riskier things you can do.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > My concern is that when using Windows Update, from time to time it installs something
> > like a Windows verification tool...to determine if I'm using a valid version of Windows
> > XP. Since I'll be using a different hard drive, will the software think I'm on a different
> > computer?
> 
> You should have no problems. It should activate normally over the
> internet. Worst case, you might have to activate by a quick voice call
> to an 800 number, but that's not likely in your case.
> 
> > If you don't think this will be a problem, then I will definitely use the WinXP Operating
> > System and Drivers CD's that shipped with the system.
> 
> I don't see any reason to expect a problem.
> 
> 
> > Just curious, how would a "corporate version" of XP (maybe pirated) be risky to use?
> 
> Any non-genuine software can contain whatever the person who created
> it wants it to contain, including malware.
> 
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken,

Good point. I'll play is safe and avoid pirated software.

Scott
date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:32:44 -0500   author:   Scott

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
JS:

Okay, I'll stick with the WinXP CD that came with the system.

Scott

JS wrote:
> 
> No problem, I've moved and or installed Windows from a smaller driver to a
> larger drive and then back to the smaller drive and then one last time back
> to the larger drive. I had no activation problems.
> 
> Now as to the  ""corporate version" of XP (maybe pirated)", you are just
> asking for trouble sooner or later.
> 
> JS
> 
> "Scott"  wrote in message
> news:48701E0B.26929D0E@uslink.net...
> >
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:45:22 -0500, Scott  wrote:
> >>
> >> > My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm thinking
> >> > of
> >> > reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and starting fresh.
> >> > I'm
> >> > worried about activation problems when using Microsoft Update after the
> >> > new
> >> > OS install.
> >>
> >> There is no reason to expect any activation problems. What you want to
> >> do is perfectly legal.
> >>
> >> > Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and Drivers
> >> > CD that came with the system,
> >>
> >> Yes
> >>
> >> > using the Recovery Console,
> >>
> >> That's not an option. You can't reinstall that way.
> >>
> >> > or finding a corporate
> >> > version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an activation issue?
> >>
> >> There is no such thing as a "corporate version." The term "corporate
> >> version" is widely used for pirated copies. Using a pirated copy is
> >> not only illegal, it also is among the riskier things you can do.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > My concern is that when using Windows Update, from time to time it
> > installs something
> > like a Windows verification tool...to determine if I'm using a valid
> > version of Windows
> > XP. Since I'll be using a different hard drive, will the software think
> > I'm on a different
> > computer?
> >
> > If you don't think this will be a problem, then I will definitely use the
> > WinXP Operating
> > System and Drivers CD's that shipped with the system.
> >
> > Just curious, how would a "corporate version" of XP (maybe pirated) be
> > risky to use?
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > Scott
date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:33:23 -0500   author:   Scott

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:32:44 -0500, Scott  wrote:

> 
> 
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:21:15 -0500, Scott  wrote:

> > > Just curious, how would a "corporate version" of XP (maybe pirated) be risky to use?
> > 
> > Any non-genuine software can contain whatever the person who created
> > it wants it to contain, including malware.
> > 
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> 
> Ken,
> 
> Good point. I'll play is safe and avoid pirated software.


Good.

-- 
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:05:45 -0700   author:   Ken Blake, MVP in

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
On June 30 2008 purchased a new HDD and Windows XP Professional. Install on 
1 year old PC witch one comes with preinstaled OS I archived. Activated a XP. 
After trial to install Windows updates (read SP3) duo core processor with 2GB 
RAM crash. There was no chance of recovery. As soon get a start up Windows 
logo system froze, show blue windows background.... memory dump... and all 
over again and again....
Discovered problems on motherboard... decided to buy new motherboard and CPU 
(ASUS P5N-D and Quad CPU). Put together a system did a system recovery with 
XP CD, this time asked for activation within 3 days. I denied. Next reboot 
system again freeze. Lockout. Reinstaled XP from scratch. Now I have 21 days 
for activation but can not activate because the XP are in MS database already 
activated. Offering to purchase a new activatio code for 199. For what 
because my system still not working properly and what is a guaranty will not 
crush again after try to download an SP3. This is a third system in house I 
have trouble instaling SP3. 
Any sugestion?
How to legally activate a XP without purchasing another copy?
Regards
Robert

 


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:32:44 -0500, Scott  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:21:15 -0500, Scott  wrote:
> 
> > > > Just curious, how would a "corporate version" of XP (maybe pirated) be risky to use?
> > > 
> > > Any non-genuine software can contain whatever the person who created
> > > it wants it to contain, including malware.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > 
> > Ken,
> > 
> > Good point. I'll play is safe and avoid pirated software.
> 
> 
> Good.
> 
> -- 
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:25:02 -0700   author:   robertturzo

Re: Reinstalling WinXP   
"JS" wrote:


> 
>
> Since your PC is 6 years old it may not support 48Bit LBA (drives larger 
> than 137GB), so check that your BIOS reports the correct drive size when you 
> connect your new drive.
> 
> 
> JS
> 
> 
> 
> "Scott"  wrote in message 
> news:486FA522.E02F3ADF@uslink.net...
> > My 6-year old WinXP Pro desktop has developed some issues. I'm thinking of
> > reinstalling the OS on a new and larger hard drive and starting fresh. I'm
> > worried about activation problems when using Microsoft Update after the 
> > new
> > OS install.  Am I better off using the WinXP Operating System CD and 
> > Drivers
> > CD that came with the system, using the Recovery Console, or finding a 
> > corporate
> > version of WinXP that supposedly won't have an activation issue?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Scott 
> 
> 
>
date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:30:01 -0700   author:   Gonlal

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