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date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 06:19:38 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support        back       


Gateway Laptop HD Question   
I'm attempting to troubleshoot a friends Gateway model 7422GX laptop:

On bootup no operating system found because no HD is found!!!

I've slid out the HD, looked it over and then plugged it back in. Never seen 
a HD fail in such a way that the system says it's not there.

Suggestions please, do I just tell my friend to buy another HD or is it 
possible something else is wrong?

TIA
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 06:19:38 -0400   author:   Jim

RE: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
"Jim" wrote:

> I'm attempting to troubleshoot a friends Gateway model 7422GX laptop:
> 
> On bootup no operating system found because no HD is found!!!
> 
> I've slid out the HD, looked it over and then plugged it back in. Never seen 
> a HD fail in such a way that the system says it's not there.
> 
> Suggestions please, do I just tell my friend to buy another HD or is it 
> possible something else is wrong?
> 
> TIA

Open the case and check the power and data Ribbon cables connections and 
make sure all fitted firmly in their Sockets. Change the cables to a new ones 
known to be working if that doesnt work. If changing cables doesnt work try 
the HDD in a different PC . Try to Run the Diagnostic tool on the HDD and 
test the health of the HDD from Gateway website below (copy and past the link 
in your browser if it's not active):
GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive utility
http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/getFile.asp?id=21280&dscr=GWSCAN%205.12&uid=209370867
Part Number: GWSCAN512GWSCAN 5.12  GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive 
utility
http://search.support.gateway.com/iphrase/query?command=text&attr1=&attr2=&t=0&text=GWSCAN+5.12+is+a+diagnostic+hard+drive+utility&x=18&y=4

If that don't work its dead!

Get a bootable floppy/CD with ptedit and boot from it and run the SFC command:
ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/ptedit.zip

HTH,
nass
---
http://www.nasstec.co.uk
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 04:07:02 -0700   author:   nass

Re: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
Many thanks, will give it a try.

Jim

"nass"  wrote in message 
news:430EAFE2-912A-48FE-B32A-8D241ECB3C2F@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Jim" wrote:
>
>> I'm attempting to troubleshoot a friends Gateway model 7422GX laptop:
>>
>> On bootup no operating system found because no HD is found!!!
>>
>> I've slid out the HD, looked it over and then plugged it back in. Never 
>> seen
>> a HD fail in such a way that the system says it's not there.
>>
>> Suggestions please, do I just tell my friend to buy another HD or is it
>> possible something else is wrong?
>>
>> TIA
>
> Open the case and check the power and data Ribbon cables connections and
> make sure all fitted firmly in their Sockets. Change the cables to a new 
> ones
> known to be working if that doesnt work. If changing cables doesnt work 
> try
> the HDD in a different PC . Try to Run the Diagnostic tool on the HDD and
> test the health of the HDD from Gateway website below (copy and past the 
> link
> in your browser if it's not active):
> GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive utility
> http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/getFile.asp?id=21280&dscr=GWSCAN%205.12&uid=209370867
> Part Number: GWSCAN512GWSCAN 5.12  GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive
> utility
> http://search.support.gateway.com/iphrase/query?command=text&attr1=&attr2=&t=0&text=GWSCAN+5.12+is+a+diagnostic+hard+drive+utility&x=18&y=4
>
> If that don't work its dead!
>
> Get a bootable floppy/CD with ptedit and boot from it and run the SFC 
> command:
> ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/ptedit.zip
>
> HTH,
> nass
> ---
> http://www.nasstec.co.uk
>
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 07:24:17 -0400   author:   Jim

Re: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
You apparently didn't notice this was a laptop ;)

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"nass"  wrote in message 
news:430EAFE2-912A-48FE-B32A-8D241ECB3C2F@microsoft.com...
>
>
> Open the case and check the power and data Ribbon cables connections and
> make sure all fitted firmly in their Sockets. Change the cables to a new 
> ones
> known to be working if that doesnt work. If changing cables doesnt work 
> try
> the HDD in a different PC . Try to Run the Diagnostic tool on the HDD and
> test the health of the HDD from Gateway website below (copy and past the 
> link
> in your browser if it's not active):
> GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive utility
> http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/getFile.asp?id=21280&dscr=GWSCAN%205.12&uid=209370867
> Part Number: GWSCAN512GWSCAN 5.12  GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive
> utility
> http://search.support.gateway.com/iphrase/query?command=text&attr1=&attr2=&t=0&text=GWSCAN+5.12+is+a+diagnostic+hard+drive+utility&x=18&y=4
>
> If that don't work its dead!
>
> Get a bootable floppy/CD with ptedit and boot from it and run the SFC 
> command:
> ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/ptedit.zip
>
> HTH,
> nass
> ---
> http://www.nasstec.co.uk
>
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:51:52 -0400   author:   David B.

Re: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
It is not uncommon for a drive to go bad and not be detected, either test it 
in another laptop or replace it with a known good drive.

-- 

----
Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm



"Jim"  wrote in message 
news:%231ysZ$6IJHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I'm attempting to troubleshoot a friends Gateway model 7422GX laptop:
>
> On bootup no operating system found because no HD is found!!!
>
> I've slid out the HD, looked it over and then plugged it back in. Never 
> seen a HD fail in such a way that the system says it's not there.
>
> Suggestions please, do I just tell my friend to buy another HD or is it 
> possible something else is wrong?
>
> TIA
>
>
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:52:55 -0400   author:   David B.

Re: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
LOL,
Shouod say another Laptop but links for Diagnostic tools for laptop model 
are correct.
Thanks Dave.
nass
--
http://www.nasstec.co.uk


"David B." wrote:

> You apparently didn't notice this was a laptop ;)
> 
> -- 
> 
> ----
> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> 
> 
> 
> "nass"  wrote in message 
> news:430EAFE2-912A-48FE-B32A-8D241ECB3C2F@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > Open the case and check the power and data Ribbon cables connections and
> > make sure all fitted firmly in their Sockets. Change the cables to a new 
> > ones
> > known to be working if that doesnt work. If changing cables doesnt work 
> > try
> > the HDD in a different PC . Try to Run the Diagnostic tool on the HDD and
> > test the health of the HDD from Gateway website below (copy and past the 
> > link
> > in your browser if it's not active):
> > GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive utility
> > http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/getFile.asp?id=21280&dscr=GWSCAN%205.12&uid=209370867
> > Part Number: GWSCAN512GWSCAN 5.12  GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive
> > utility
> > http://search.support.gateway.com/iphrase/query?command=text&attr1=&attr2=&t=0&text=GWSCAN+5.12+is+a+diagnostic+hard+drive+utility&x=18&y=4
> >
> > If that don't work its dead!
> >
> > Get a bootable floppy/CD with ptedit and boot from it and run the SFC 
> > command:
> > ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/ptedit.zip
> >
> > HTH,
> > nass
> > ---
> > http://www.nasstec.co.uk
> > 
> 
>
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:43:01 -0700   author:   nass

Re: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
Just might be a bit hard for the OP to open 'er up and swap cables ;)

-- 

----
Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm



"nass"  wrote in message 
news:DDEEF058-AE56-4DBC-AF4C-180553A7B0E5@microsoft.com...
>
>
>
> LOL,
> Shouod say another Laptop but links for Diagnostic tools for laptop model
> are correct.
> Thanks Dave.
> nass
> --
> http://www.nasstec.co.uk
>
>
> "David B." wrote:
>
>> You apparently didn't notice this was a laptop ;)
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ----
>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>> Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "nass"  wrote in message
>> news:430EAFE2-912A-48FE-B32A-8D241ECB3C2F@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Open the case and check the power and data Ribbon cables connections 
>> > and
>> > make sure all fitted firmly in their Sockets. Change the cables to a 
>> > new
>> > ones
>> > known to be working if that doesnt work. If changing cables doesnt work
>> > try
>> > the HDD in a different PC . Try to Run the Diagnostic tool on the HDD 
>> > and
>> > test the health of the HDD from Gateway website below (copy and past 
>> > the
>> > link
>> > in your browser if it's not active):
>> > GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive utility
>> > http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/getFile.asp?id=21280&dscr=GWSCAN%205.12&uid=209370867
>> > Part Number: GWSCAN512GWSCAN 5.12  GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard 
>> > drive
>> > utility
>> > http://search.support.gateway.com/iphrase/query?command=text&attr1=&attr2=&t=0&text=GWSCAN+5.12+is+a+diagnostic+hard+drive+utility&x=18&y=4
>> >
>> > If that don't work its dead!
>> >
>> > Get a bootable floppy/CD with ptedit and boot from it and run the SFC
>> > command:
>> > ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/ptedit.zip
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> > nass
>> > ---
>> > http://www.nasstec.co.uk
>> >
>>
>>
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 13:13:37 -0400   author:   David B.

Re: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
Oops... You got me on this one Shot 0:)
Specially if he gone out to buy a new one lol



"David B." wrote:

> Just might be a bit hard for the OP to open 'er up and swap cables ;)
> 
> -- 
> 
> ----
> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> 
> 
> 
> "nass"  wrote in message 
> news:DDEEF058-AE56-4DBC-AF4C-180553A7B0E5@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > LOL,
> > Shouod say another Laptop but links for Diagnostic tools for laptop model
> > are correct.
> > Thanks Dave.
> > nass
> > --
> > http://www.nasstec.co.uk
> >
> >
> > "David B." wrote:
> >
> >> You apparently didn't notice this was a laptop ;)
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >> ----
> >> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> >> Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "nass"  wrote in message
> >> news:430EAFE2-912A-48FE-B32A-8D241ECB3C2F@microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Open the case and check the power and data Ribbon cables connections 
> >> > and
> >> > make sure all fitted firmly in their Sockets. Change the cables to a 
> >> > new
> >> > ones
> >> > known to be working if that doesnt work. If changing cables doesnt work
> >> > try
> >> > the HDD in a different PC . Try to Run the Diagnostic tool on the HDD 
> >> > and
> >> > test the health of the HDD from Gateway website below (copy and past 
> >> > the
> >> > link
> >> > in your browser if it's not active):
> >> > GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive utility
> >> > http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/getFile.asp?id=21280&dscr=GWSCAN%205.12&uid=209370867
> >> > Part Number: GWSCAN512GWSCAN 5.12  GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard 
> >> > drive
> >> > utility
> >> > http://search.support.gateway.com/iphrase/query?command=text&attr1=&attr2=&t=0&text=GWSCAN+5.12+is+a+diagnostic+hard+drive+utility&x=18&y=4
> >> >
> >> > If that don't work its dead!
> >> >
> >> > Get a bootable floppy/CD with ptedit and boot from it and run the SFC
> >> > command:
> >> > ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/ptedit.zip
> >> >
> >> > HTH,
> >> > nass
> >> > ---
> >> > http://www.nasstec.co.uk
> >> >
> >>
> >> 
> 
>
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:29:02 -0700   author:   nass

Re: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
I was able to swap this HD into another laptop and it would not boot. I'm 
sure now the drive is shot.

Thanks all.

Jim

"David B."  wrote in message 
news:uiQ%23gS8IJHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> It is not uncommon for a drive to go bad and not be detected, either test 
> it in another laptop or replace it with a known good drive.
>
> -- 
>
> ----
> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
>
> "Jim"  wrote in message 
> news:%231ysZ$6IJHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I'm attempting to troubleshoot a friends Gateway model 7422GX laptop:
>>
>> On bootup no operating system found because no HD is found!!!
>>
>> I've slid out the HD, looked it over and then plugged it back in. Never 
>> seen a HD fail in such a way that the system says it's not there.
>>
>> Suggestions please, do I just tell my friend to buy another HD or is it 
>> possible something else is wrong?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:50:49 -0400   author:   Jim

Re: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
> "Jim" wrote:
>
>> I'm attempting to troubleshoot a friends Gateway model 7422GX laptop:
>>
>> On bootup no operating system found because no HD is found!!!
>>
>> I've slid out the HD, looked it over and then plugged it back in.
>> Never seen a HD fail in such a way that the system says it's not
>> there.
>>
>> Suggestions please, do I just tell my friend to buy another HD or is
>> it possible something else is wrong?
>>
>> TIA
>
> Open the case and check the power and data Ribbon cables connections
> and
> make sure all fitted firmly in their Sockets. Change the cables to a
> new ones known to be working if that doesnt work. If changing cables
> doesnt work try the HDD in a different PC . Try to Run the Diagnostic
> tool on the HDD and test the health of the HDD from Gateway website
> below (copy and past the link in your browser if it's not active):
> GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive utility
> http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/getFile.asp?id=21280&dscr=GWSCAN%205.12&uid=209370867
> Part Number: GWSCAN512GWSCAN 5.12  GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard
> drive utility
> http://search.support.gateway.com/iphrase/query?command=text&attr1=&attr2=&t=0&text=GWSCAN+5.12+is+a+diagnostic+hard+drive+utility&x=18&y=4
>
> If that don't work its dead!
>
> Get a bootable floppy/CD with ptedit and boot from it and run the SFC
> command:
> ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/ptedit.zip
>
> HTH,
> nass
> ---
> http://www.nasstec.co.uk

Nass, I'm generally 100% behind your responses, but shouldn't you warn 
that taking a laptop case apart can be, uhhh, precarious and is pretty 
difficult without experience or at least a manual?

Also, shouldn't you check first to see if the CMOS sees the drive? 
Maybe it glitches and removed it, MBR got borked, etc. etc.?

Twayne
date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 09:34:12 -0400   author:   Twayne

Re: Gateway Laptop HD Question   
"Twayne" wrote:

> > "Jim" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm attempting to troubleshoot a friends Gateway model 7422GX laptop:
> >>
> >> On bootup no operating system found because no HD is found!!!
> >>
> >> I've slid out the HD, looked it over and then plugged it back in.
> >> Never seen a HD fail in such a way that the system says it's not
> >> there.
> >>
> >> Suggestions please, do I just tell my friend to buy another HD or is
> >> it possible something else is wrong?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >
> > Open the case and check the power and data Ribbon cables connections
> > and
> > make sure all fitted firmly in their Sockets. Change the cables to a
> > new ones known to be working if that doesnt work. If changing cables
> > doesnt work try the HDD in a different PC . Try to Run the Diagnostic
> > tool on the HDD and test the health of the HDD from Gateway website
> > below (copy and past the link in your browser if it's not active):
> > GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard drive utility
> > http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/getFile.asp?id=21280&dscr=GWSCAN%205.12&uid=209370867
> > Part Number: GWSCAN512GWSCAN 5.12  GWSCAN 5.12 is a diagnostic hard
> > drive utility
> > http://search.support.gateway.com/iphrase/query?command=text&attr1=&attr2=&t=0&text=GWSCAN+5.12+is+a+diagnostic+hard+drive+utility&x=18&y=4
> >
> > If that don't work its dead!
> >
> > Get a bootable floppy/CD with ptedit and boot from it and run the SFC
> > command:
> > ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/ptedit.zip
> >
> > HTH,
> > nass
> > ---
> > http://www.nasstec.co.uk
> 
> Nass, I'm generally 100% behind your responses, but shouldn't you warn 
> that taking a laptop case apart can be, uhhh, precarious and is pretty 
> difficult without experience or at least a manual?
> 
> Also, shouldn't you check first to see if the CMOS sees the drive? 
> Maybe it glitches and removed it, MBR got borked, etc. etc.?
> 
> Twayne

Hi Twayne,
Yes you are correct that the OP should warrned about the defficulties in 
this procedure but since I been carried away from the main subject that we 
are dealing with Laptop I troubleshooted on PC ;-)

Jim sent his feedback about how he resolved the issue by downloading the 
right driver for the sound card and he hooked the HDD to another machine.
Here his reply to the NG:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support&tid=48ea738d-f5db-481e-bc07-d2a584a3b6a0&cat=en_US_4fae9fed-da91-4a2a-9d2b-5dc71973d43c&lang=en&cr=US&sloc=&p=1
Thanks Jim and Twayne.
Regards,
nass
date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:30:03 -0700   author:   nass

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