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date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:16:17 -0700,
group: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Cannot install
I reinstalled windows xp home to secondary harddrive.
We ended up having a a windows installation on both both the mater hardrive
and the slave harddrive, we wanted to only have one installation on only the
slave harddrive and we were planning on making it the master and the main
harddrive the slave.
He decided that he would just manually delete all the files off of the first
harddrive, the one we wanted cleared, instead of reformatting it he just used
a live linux disk accessing the harddrive and deleting them.
We switch the harddrives jumpers so that we had the correct master, slave
setup.
After this when we try to boot our computer on the second screen that comes
up after it tests the memory and checks for IDE drives we get a "NTLDR is
Missing
please press [Alt+Ctrl+Delete] to restart your system.
So now we cannot access windows. We use the live linux cd and try and find
out what could be wrong without much luck.
We think that a reformat of both drives and reinstallation onto the right
drive in the right order would be better, we use the windows repair and
reformat both of the harddrives in ntsf format.
We reboot and still get "NTLDR is Missing".
Now this second part could be tied in with this problem or not were not
sure. When we insert the windows xp home cd and try and install windows we
get to where it asks us if we wish to install,repair, quit, we continue with
the install. We get to the next screen, license agreement, sure, next, now we
get to a screen that says something around "Setup cannot find CD, or is not a
valid windows CD". Hmm ok that's weird, I know this is a valid CD and it just
booted off the windows CD in-order to get to this setup, so how can the setup
not find the CD"..
Well I know this is a scrambled mess, much thanks if anyone can help. No
matter, we would just like a clean install of windows, not worried about
losing information as you can see we previously formatted and we have are
information we want to save on a external harddrive.
Any help is great, Cody.
Please posts here or contact me at currieriii@gmail.com
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:16:17 -0700
author: Cody
Re: Cannot install
Hi Cody,
Having done as you have done, makes me an old pro at installing Windows
XP Home Edition.
Anyway, it didn't matter what Hard Drive you install Windows XP on, the
problem occur, because if you were going to switch around the Hard Drives,
you should have done it, before installing Windows XP on the slave in the
first place, not afterwards.
Don't use the Repair option, now. You need to do a Full Reformat and
then install of Windows XP Home Edition. But it depends on which version of
Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack you are installing and the size of the
partition, as well as the type of Hard Drive referring to IDE or SATA Hard
Drives.
If installing on a SATA Hard Drive, you need at least Windows XP Home
Edition Service Pack 2 CD.
--
thecreator
"Cody" wrote in message
news:53E1A21A-34BC-4F12-A53C-F320FF814CCF@microsoft.com...
>I reinstalled windows xp home to secondary harddrive.
>
> We ended up having a a windows installation on both both the mater
> hardrive
> and the slave harddrive, we wanted to only have one installation on only
> the
> slave harddrive and we were planning on making it the master and the main
> harddrive the slave.
>
> He decided that he would just manually delete all the files off of the
> first
> harddrive, the one we wanted cleared, instead of reformatting it he just
> used
> a live linux disk accessing the harddrive and deleting them.
>
> We switch the harddrives jumpers so that we had the correct master, slave
> setup.
>
> After this when we try to boot our computer on the second screen that
> comes
> up after it tests the memory and checks for IDE drives we get a "NTLDR is
> Missing
> please press [Alt+Ctrl+Delete] to restart your system.
>
>
> So now we cannot access windows. We use the live linux cd and try and find
> out what could be wrong without much luck.
>
> We think that a reformat of both drives and reinstallation onto the right
> drive in the right order would be better, we use the windows repair and
> reformat both of the harddrives in ntsf format.
>
> We reboot and still get "NTLDR is Missing".
>
>
> Now this second part could be tied in with this problem or not were not
> sure. When we insert the windows xp home cd and try and install windows we
> get to where it asks us if we wish to install,repair, quit, we continue
> with
> the install. We get to the next screen, license agreement, sure, next, now
> we
> get to a screen that says something around "Setup cannot find CD, or is
> not a
> valid windows CD". Hmm ok that's weird, I know this is a valid CD and it
> just
> booted off the windows CD in-order to get to this setup, so how can the
> setup
> not find the CD"..
>
> Well I know this is a scrambled mess, much thanks if anyone can help. No
> matter, we would just like a clean install of windows, not worried about
> losing information as you can see we previously formatted and we have are
> information we want to save on a external harddrive.
>
> Any help is great, Cody.
>
> Please posts here or contact me at currieriii@gmail.com
>
>
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:15:52 -0400
author: thecreator thecreatorof
Re: Cannot install
"Cody" wrote in message
news:53E1A21A-34BC-4F12-A53C-F320FF814CCF@microsoft.com...
> I reinstalled windows xp home to secondary harddrive.
>
> We ended up having a a windows installation on both both the mater
hardrive
> and the slave harddrive, we wanted to only have one installation on only
the
> slave harddrive and we were planning on making it the master and the main
> harddrive the slave.
>
> He decided that he would just manually delete all the files off of the
first
> harddrive, the one we wanted cleared, instead of reformatting it he just
used
> a live linux disk accessing the harddrive and deleting them.
>
> We switch the harddrives jumpers so that we had the correct master, slave
> setup.
>
> After this when we try to boot our computer on the second screen that
comes
> up after it tests the memory and checks for IDE drives we get a "NTLDR is
> Missing
> please press [Alt+Ctrl+Delete] to restart your system.
>
>
> So now we cannot access windows. We use the live linux cd and try and find
> out what could be wrong without much luck.
>
> We think that a reformat of both drives and reinstallation onto the right
> drive in the right order would be better, we use the windows repair and
> reformat both of the harddrives in ntsf format.
>
> We reboot and still get "NTLDR is Missing".
>
>
> Now this second part could be tied in with this problem or not were not
> sure. When we insert the windows xp home cd and try and install windows we
> get to where it asks us if we wish to install,repair, quit, we continue
with
> the install. We get to the next screen, license agreement, sure, next, now
we
> get to a screen that says something around "Setup cannot find CD, or is
not a
> valid windows CD". Hmm ok that's weird, I know this is a valid CD and it
just
> booted off the windows CD in-order to get to this setup, so how can the
setup
> not find the CD"..
>
> Well I know this is a scrambled mess, much thanks if anyone can help. No
> matter, we would just like a clean install of windows, not worried about
> losing information as you can see we previously formatted and we have are
> information we want to save on a external harddrive.
>
> Any help is great, Cody.
>
You cannot install Win2k on the slave drive, then change it to master and
expect it to work.
I would simply configure the drives to the way you wish to use the machine,
then start over with a fresh installation
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:18:13 -0500
author: philo
Re: Cannot install
"philo" wrote:
>
> "Cody" wrote in message
> news:53E1A21A-34BC-4F12-A53C-F320FF814CCF@microsoft.com...
> > I reinstalled windows xp home to secondary harddrive.
> >
> > We ended up having a a windows installation on both both the mater
> hardrive
> > and the slave harddrive, we wanted to only have one installation on only
> the
> > slave harddrive and we were planning on making it the master and the main
> > harddrive the slave.
> >
> > He decided that he would just manually delete all the files off of the
> first
> > harddrive, the one we wanted cleared, instead of reformatting it he just
> used
> > a live linux disk accessing the harddrive and deleting them.
> >
> > We switch the harddrives jumpers so that we had the correct master, slave
> > setup.
> >
> > After this when we try to boot our computer on the second screen that
> comes
> > up after it tests the memory and checks for IDE drives we get a "NTLDR is
> > Missing
> > please press [Alt+Ctrl+Delete] to restart your system.
> >
> >
> > So now we cannot access windows. We use the live linux cd and try and find
> > out what could be wrong without much luck.
> >
> > We think that a reformat of both drives and reinstallation onto the right
> > drive in the right order would be better, we use the windows repair and
> > reformat both of the harddrives in ntsf format.
> >
> > We reboot and still get "NTLDR is Missing".
> >
> >
> > Now this second part could be tied in with this problem or not were not
> > sure. When we insert the windows xp home cd and try and install windows we
> > get to where it asks us if we wish to install,repair, quit, we continue
> with
> > the install. We get to the next screen, license agreement, sure, next, now
> we
> > get to a screen that says something around "Setup cannot find CD, or is
> not a
> > valid windows CD". Hmm ok that's weird, I know this is a valid CD and it
> just
> > booted off the windows CD in-order to get to this setup, so how can the
> setup
> > not find the CD"..
> >
> > Well I know this is a scrambled mess, much thanks if anyone can help. No
> > matter, we would just like a clean install of windows, not worried about
> > losing information as you can see we previously formatted and we have are
> > information we want to save on a external harddrive.
> >
> > Any help is great, Cody.
> >
>
>
> You cannot install Win2k on the slave drive, then change it to master and
> expect it to work.
>
> I would simply configure the drives to the way you wish to use the machine,
> then start over with a fresh installation
>
>
>
Hmm ok I understand that now thank you, now my main problem with this is..
after I did what I did, could you explain a way for me to do a Full Reformat
without a OS, because at this moment I am currently just using a live linux
boot cd. Also, about my earlier comment
> Now this second part could be tied in with this problem or not were not
> sure. When we insert the windows xp home cd and try and install windows we
> get to where it asks us if we wish to install,repair, quit, we continue
> with
> the install. We get to the next screen, license agreement, sure, next, now
> we
> get to a screen that says something around "Setup cannot find CD, or is
> not a
> valid windows CD". Hmm ok that's weird, I know this is a valid CD and it
> just
> booted off the windows CD in-order to get to this setup, so how can the
> setup
> not find the CD"..
If I could figure out how to do a Full Reformat, I'm still stuck behind this
problem of the windows setup saying it cannot find my disk, which it
obviously has by booting off the disk and entering the windows setup. Could a
full reformat possibly fix this problem I have or is this entirely something
else?
Thank you so far for all the help, Cody.
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:21:00 -0700
author: Cody
Re: Cannot install
"Mick Murphy" wrote:
> If you boot from the XP CD, it looks at your hardware setup, loads files,
> agree with the agreement.
> You are missing something in the next part
> You go for the install; but you delete the existing XP partition.
> You have to read it carefully; there is a D for delete, and L for continue,
> yes L.
> Your formatting is done( by the installation) once you allocate a partition
> size; usually the whole HDD if windows has its way.
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
>
> "Cody" wrote:
>
> > Oops left this out, I currently have the harddrives set up in the correct
> > sequence that I want them.
Yes, the problem I am having though is that before it even gets to
> You go for the install; but you delete the existing XP partition.
> You have to read it carefully; there is a D for delete, and L for continue,
> yes L.
It says my windows xp home cd not in the drive or is not a valid windows xp
home cd.
I understand what your saying I've done this previously the right way, my
brother just wanted to try it out his way and it ended up to what seems to be
a complete disaster. I really have no idea what could cause windows setup to
boot, read my hardware and such, get to the agreement and get to the part
where it says "Enter" to install and "F3" to Exit. When I press I am shown
what I said a bit further back, "CD is not in the drive or is not a valid
windows xp home cd".
Much thanks for previous help, and more thanks for further assistance.
By the way, I tried calling windows tech support.. they seem to be worthless.
date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:28:02 -0700
author: Cody
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