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date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:03:44 -0600,    group: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support        back       


KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
As soon as I installed this update that was released today, I was unable to
acquire a network connection. A quick check with my ISP confirmed that the
problem was not on their end. My modem was showing an IP, and my system had
successfully acquired an IP from the router - but I still had no internet
connectivity.

As soon as I uninstalled KB951748, the problem went away. 

Microsoft strikes again...


Tom

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date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:03:44 -0600   author:   Tom Hall

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
"Tom Hall"  wrote in message 
news:fes774tv9tiogkug8f8e8apbm60rufnb3c@4ax.com...
> As soon as I installed this update that was released today, I was unable to
> acquire a network connection. A quick check with my ISP confirmed that the
> problem was not on their end. My modem was showing an IP, and my system had
> successfully acquired an IP from the router - but I still had no internet
> connectivity.
>
> As soon as I uninstalled KB951748, the problem went away.
>
> Microsoft strikes again...
>
>
> Tom
>
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Got Zone Alarm installed on your computer? Take a look at these threads in the 
Zone Alarm forums.

http://forum.zonealarm.com/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&message.id=52790

http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&thread.id=52785

For more, go here.

http://www.google.com/search?q=KB951748+zone+alarm&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

Good luck

Nepatsfan
date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:30:32 -0400   author:   Nepatsfan

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
Zone Alarm says uninstall the update until they figure out what's going on,
if you're using zone alarm.

Or you can set the internet zone to moderate instead of high security.
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date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:32:12 -0400   author:   Ron Hardin

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:30:32 -0400, "Nepatsfan" 
wrote:

>Got Zone Alarm installed on your computer?

No.

Tom

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date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:36:16 -0600   author:   Tom Hall

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
While I agree that MS is at least partially fault, the story might be one of 
a more complex internaction among programs.

See posting in this newsgroup at 2:29 PM by Ron Hardin, plus responses.

I had similar behavior, in which internet failed if Zone Alarm was on, but 
actually worked with it off.  (Of course, before the XP update internet 
worked with ZA on.)

I agree that removing the update via add/remove programs fixes the problem.

"Tom Hall"  wrote in message 
news:fes774tv9tiogkug8f8e8apbm60rufnb3c@4ax.com...
> As soon as I installed this update that was released today, I was unable 
> to
> acquire a network connection. A quick check with my ISP confirmed that the
> problem was not on their end. My modem was showing an IP, and my system 
> had
> successfully acquired an IP from the router - but I still had no internet
> connectivity.
>
> As soon as I uninstalled KB951748, the problem went away.
>
> Microsoft strikes again...
>
>
> Tom
>
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date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:01:32 -0500   author:   Bob Harris rharris270[SPAM]@hotmail.com

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
Threads have been deletd.

"Nepatsfan"  wrote in message 
news:estweKV4IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Tom Hall"  wrote in message 
> news:fes774tv9tiogkug8f8e8apbm60rufnb3c@4ax.com...
>> As soon as I installed this update that was released today, I was unable 
>> to
>> acquire a network connection. A quick check with my ISP confirmed that 
>> the
>> problem was not on their end. My modem was showing an IP, and my system 
>> had
>> successfully acquired an IP from the router - but I still had no internet
>> connectivity.
>>
>> As soon as I uninstalled KB951748, the problem went away.
>>
>> Microsoft strikes again...
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
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>
>
> Got Zone Alarm installed on your computer? Take a look at these threads in 
> the Zone Alarm forums.
>
> http://forum.zonealarm.com/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&message.id=52790
>
> http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&thread.id=52785
>
> For more, go here.
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=KB951748+zone+alarm&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
>
> Good luck
>
> Nepatsfan
>
date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:44:10 -0700   author:   Jerry

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
Like Tom Hall, I had instant connection failures immediately after
today's updates.  Unlike him, I was running ZoneAlarm.  When I turned
off ZoneAlarm, I still could not connect to anything.  System Restore
(to the point created just before the update was installed) made
connection possible again.


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date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:54:06 +0530   author:   jimbeard

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
Fix posted here:

ZoneAlarm Newsgroup
http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&message.id=52727


ju.c


"Tom Hall"  wrote in message 
news:fes774tv9tiogkug8f8e8apbm60rufnb3c@4ax.com...
> As soon as I installed this update that was released today, I was 
> unable to
> acquire a network connection. A quick check with my ISP confirmed that 
> the
> problem was not on their end. My modem was showing an IP, and my 
> system had
> successfully acquired an IP from the router - but I still had no 
> internet
> connectivity.
>
> As soon as I uninstalled KB951748, the problem went away.
>
> Microsoft strikes again...
>
>
> Tom
>
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date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 02:10:37 -0700   author:   ju.c

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:54:06 +0530, jimbeard 
wrote:

>
>Like Tom Hall, I had instant connection failures immediately after
>today's updates.  Unlike him, I was running ZoneAlarm.  When I turned
>off ZoneAlarm, I still could not connect to anything.  System Restore
>(to the point created just before the update was installed) made
>connection possible again.

All I had to do was to uninstall the security update and then block it. Now
Windows Update tells me I have hidden critical updates, but I'd rather live
without KB951748 than without my internet connection. 


Tom

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date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:12:39 -0600   author:   Tom Hall

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 02:10:37 -0700, "ju.c" 
wrote:

>Fix posted here:
>
>ZoneAlarm Newsgroup
>http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&message.id=52727

That's fine if you're running ZoneAlarm. What about a fix for people (such
as myself) who AREN'T using ZoneAlarm?


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date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:15:05 -0600   author:   Tom Hall

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
You should consider reviewing your system for installed components that 
might be similar to the Zone Alarm functions.

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"Tom Hall"  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 02:10:37 -0700, "ju.c" 
> wrote:
>
>>Fix posted here:
>>
>>ZoneAlarm Newsgroup
>>http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&message.id=52727
>
> That's fine if you're running ZoneAlarm. What about a fix for people (such
> as myself) who AREN'T using ZoneAlarm?
>
>
> Tom
>
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date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:29:17 -0500   author:   Mark L. Ferguson

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
"Tom Hall"  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 02:10:37 -0700, "ju.c" 
> wrote:
>
>>Fix posted here:
>>
>>ZoneAlarm Newsgroup
>>http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&message.id=52727
>
> That's fine if you're running ZoneAlarm. What about a fix for people (such
> as myself) who AREN'T using ZoneAlarm?
>
>
> Tom
>
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Don't know what you have unique in your PC, but I just updated 5 machines, 
none with ZA, and have no problems with Internet connections.
But with an estimated 1,000,000 various configurations, it is always 
possible to have a conflict.

PS 98.8% of all statistics are made up!
date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:35:56 -0700   author:   Richard in AZ

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
In article , bibidybubidyboop@mailnator.com says...
>
>
>Fix posted here:
>
>ZoneAlarm Newsgroup
>http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&message.id=52727
>
The official temp workarounds from ZA are here:

http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/pressReleases/2008/LossOfInternetAccessIssue.html

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date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:14:37 -0500   author:   whosbest54 lid

RE: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
I had the same problem, no connection with the patch installed. Uninstall it 
and connection comes back.

Whist it was installed I disable the Virus checker and Firewall (Bullguard) 
but this was not the problem, I still had no connection to the internet.
Whist it was installed I could communicate with the router admin page but 
could not connect to the Internet, until the KB951748 was removed.




"Tom Hall" wrote:

> As soon as I installed this update that was released today, I was unable to
> acquire a network connection. A quick check with my ISP confirmed that the
> problem was not on their end. My modem was showing an IP, and my system had
> successfully acquired an IP from the router - but I still had no internet
> connectivity.
> 
> As soon as I uninstalled KB951748, the problem went away. 
> 
> Microsoft strikes again...
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> -- 
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>
date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:50:03 -0700   author:   Dave S Dave

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:50:03 -0700, Dave S <Dave
S@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I had the same problem, no connection with the patch installed. Uninstall it 
>and connection comes back.
>
>Whist it was installed I disable the Virus checker and Firewall (Bullguard) 
>but this was not the problem, I still had no connection to the internet.
>Whist it was installed I could communicate with the router admin page but 
>could not connect to the Internet, until the KB951748 was removed.

It appears that KB951748 took out most if not all third-party firewalls.
Strangely, it didn't mess up Windows Firewall... :-)

Apparently the update did some shuffling of port ranges.


Tom

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date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:20:47 -0600   author:   Tom Hall

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
I have filled out a MS Help & Support, even though I told them I had 
Bullguard installed and I had disabled it, they sent me a message about 
ZoneAlarm and closed the call! Unbelievable!

It could be related to Bullguard but, after I disabled it the Windows 
Firewall took over and it still didn't work, until I disabled KB951748.

Best leave that one out then.

"Tom Hall" wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:50:03 -0700, Dave S <Dave
> S@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> >I had the same problem, no connection with the patch installed. Uninstall it 
> >and connection comes back.
> >
> >Whist it was installed I disable the Virus checker and Firewall (Bullguard) 
> >but this was not the problem, I still had no connection to the internet.
> >Whist it was installed I could communicate with the router admin page but 
> >could not connect to the Internet, until the KB951748 was removed.
> 
> It appears that KB951748 took out most if not all third-party firewalls.
> Strangely, it didn't mess up Windows Firewall... :-)
> 
> Apparently the update did some shuffling of port ranges.
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
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date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:16:00 -0700   author:   Dave S

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:20:47 -0600, Tom Hall 
wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:50:03 -0700, Dave S <Dave
>S@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>I had the same problem, no connection with the patch installed. Uninstall it 
>>and connection comes back.
>>
>>Whist it was installed I disable the Virus checker and Firewall (Bullguard) 
>>but this was not the problem, I still had no connection to the internet.
>>Whist it was installed I could communicate with the router admin page but 
>>could not connect to the Internet, until the KB951748 was removed.
>
>It appears that KB951748 took out most if not all third-party firewalls.
>Strangely, it didn't mess up Windows Firewall... :-)
>
>Apparently the update did some shuffling of port ranges.
>
>
>Tom

It didn`t knock out Comodo firewall .
date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:57:49 +0100   author:   unknown

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:20:47 -0600, Tom Hall 
wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:50:03 -0700, Dave S <Dave
>S@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>I had the same problem, no connection with the patch installed. Uninstall it 
>>and connection comes back.
>>
>>Whist it was installed I disable the Virus checker and Firewall (Bullguard) 
>>but this was not the problem, I still had no connection to the internet.
>>Whist it was installed I could communicate with the router admin page but 
>>could not connect to the Internet, until the KB951748 was removed.
>
>It appears that KB951748 took out most if not all third-party firewalls.
>Strangely, it didn't mess up Windows Firewall... :-)

I just got this machine last month. I had ZA and Windows firewall
running at the same time and had to disable Windows firewall to fix
the situation. ZA and KB951748 work just fine as long as Windows
firewall is inoperable. ZA and Windows firewall do the same thing,
don't they?

>
>Apparently the update did some shuffling of port ranges.
>
>
>Tom
date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:51:14 GMT   author:   helmsman /~helmsman

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
"helmsman" <helmsman@worldnet.att.net/~helmsman> wrote in message 
news:8oslb4tr8bmp4f26i3sv4fvf3p38nufq6l@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:20:47 -0600, Tom Hall 
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:50:03 -0700, Dave S <Dave
>>S@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I had the same problem, no connection with the patch installed. 
>>>Uninstall it
>>>and connection comes back.
>>>
>>>Whist it was installed I disable the Virus checker and Firewall 
>>>(Bullguard)
>>>but this was not the problem, I still had no connection to the 
>>>internet.
>>>Whist it was installed I could communicate with the router admin page 
>>>but
>>>could not connect to the Internet, until the KB951748 was removed.
>>
>>It appears that KB951748 took out most if not all third-party 
>>firewalls.
>>Strangely, it didn't mess up Windows Firewall... :-)
>
> I just got this machine last month. I had ZA and Windows firewall
> running at the same time and had to disable Windows firewall to fix
> the situation. ZA and KB951748 work just fine as long as Windows
> firewall is inoperable. ZA and Windows firewall do the same thing,
> don't they?
>
>>
>>Apparently the update did some shuffling of port ranges.
>>
>>
>>Tom
>



No.  Zone Alarm is superior to the Windows Firewall in Win XP.

Zone Alarm prevents unauthorized programs from accessing the Internet 
without your knowledge.  Windows Firewall merely protects against inward 
attacks.  Furthermore, it is not recommended to run two different 
firewalls at the same time.

Zone Labs have released an update to Zone Alarm, which is compatible 
with KB951748.
date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:19:26 +0100   author:   Bob Lucas

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
You shouldn't have ZA & Windows firewall running at the same time. When you 
install ZA Windows firewall is usually turned off automatically. There was a 
known issue with ZA & a windows update and ZA was updated to function 
correctly after the update. So just be sure you have the latest version of 
ZA.
Neil
"helmsman" <helmsman@worldnet.att.net/~helmsman> wrote in message 
news:8oslb4tr8bmp4f26i3sv4fvf3p38nufq6l@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:20:47 -0600, Tom Hall 
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:50:03 -0700, Dave S <Dave
>>S@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I had the same problem, no connection with the patch installed. Uninstall 
>>>it
>>>and connection comes back.
>>>
>>>Whist it was installed I disable the Virus checker and Firewall 
>>>(Bullguard)
>>>but this was not the problem, I still had no connection to the internet.
>>>Whist it was installed I could communicate with the router admin page but
>>>could not connect to the Internet, until the KB951748 was removed.
>>
>>It appears that KB951748 took out most if not all third-party firewalls.
>>Strangely, it didn't mess up Windows Firewall... :-)
>
> I just got this machine last month. I had ZA and Windows firewall
> running at the same time and had to disable Windows firewall to fix
> the situation. ZA and KB951748 work just fine as long as Windows
> firewall is inoperable. ZA and Windows firewall do the same thing,
> don't they?
>
>>
>>Apparently the update did some shuffling of port ranges.
>>
>>
>>Tom
>
date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:20:26 +0100   author:   neil

Re: KB951748 Security Update Kills Network Connection   
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:03:44 -0600, Tom Hall 
wrote:

>As soon as I installed this update that was released today, I was unable to
>acquire a network connection. A quick check with my ISP confirmed that the
>problem was not on their end. My modem was showing an IP, and my system had
>successfully acquired an IP from the router - but I still had no internet
>connectivity.
>
>As soon as I uninstalled KB951748, the problem went away. 
>Microsoft strikes again...
>Tom

What doe's KB951748 do?
TIA
date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:40:26 GMT   author:   helmsman /~helmsman

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