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date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:21:30 +0200,
group: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
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Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:21:30 +0200,when reading
"microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
of ""Adi" " saying:
>Hi, experts!
I'm not an expert. ;-)
>After cleaning computer I must put again all username-s and all password-s
>for access to sites where I need them. Because I clean very often, its take
>time.
When you say "cleaning computer" do you mean formatting your C: drive
and re-installing your operating system?
>How I can save all this different usernames and passwords, what program to
>use, which will return all at once.
Like most people I install WinXP on C: drive, but I always install my
browsers, programmes and especially email programme, news reader etc. on
D: drive. So when I need to re-install WinXP I don't lose any of my
programme settings which includes my usernames and passwords.
As my browser I run several instances of Opera and Opera beta versions
on different computers and Opera has a free "Synchronizing Opera"
facility that can be turned on if you wish. When I run an instance of
Opera any alterations to my Bookmarks and/or Passwords are automatically
recorded and when I first install or open another instance of Opera the
Bookmarks and Passwords are automatically updated.
It is important to mention that I don't allow Opera to retain Bookmarks
and Passwords when I visit my Bank or other private or personal sites.
--
Erik.
date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:08:45 +1000
author: Erik Vastmasd lid
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
Adi,
Consider purchasing an Image copying program such as Acronis True Image
version 10 or above (this will work with Vista if you upgrade in the
future).
1. Make a copy of your present C:\ drive and save it to another partitition,
HDD, or external storage device. Especially if you have it set up the way
you want it with all the password/user settings, and you have not added
applications such as games that you may not reinstall in the future, with a
new reformat of the C:\ drive.
2. The next time you format your C:\ drive, and just install the barebones
components and applications that you will want. And you have "tweaked" all
the settings the way you want them. For website settings, just go to the
website, sign into the site. If the site stores the logon information in a
cookie, then it will be there on the PC. Then make a Image copy of that
setup using Acronis True Image, rename it something different from previous
Image, and save the Image to another partition, HDD, or external storage
device.
One caveat, some financial website have added security that may not accept
old cookies, and you will need go through the basic logon procedure again.
3. You will be able to restore your C:\ drive back using the recovery
application, in Acronis TI, in less 30 mins (in most cases), with all the
settings that you had before.
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"Adi" wrote in message
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Hi, experts!
After cleaning computer I must put again all username-s and all password-s
for access to sites where I need them. Because I clean very often, its take
time.
How I can save all this different usernames and passwords, what program to
use, which will return all at once.
Thanks for any advice everybody!
vouk.adolf@amis.net
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:40:19 -0400
author: Rich/rerat
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
I am sorry but I think cleanning temporary, cookies etc, and when I clean
those all 'things' I lose all usernames and passwords
for logging on many sites and after cleaning I must put them one by one. I
need program that know how to save all username and passwords
at once on USB memopy key.
Thanks again to all.
vouk.adolf@amis.net
"Rich/rerat" je napisal v sporoèilo
news:uS8iykP3IHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl ...
> Adi,
> Consider purchasing an Image copying program such as Acronis True Image
> version 10 or above (this will work with Vista if you upgrade in the
> future).
> 1. Make a copy of your present C:\ drive and save it to another
> partitition,
> HDD, or external storage device. Especially if you have it set up the way
> you want it with all the password/user settings, and you have not added
> applications such as games that you may not reinstall in the future, with
> a
> new reformat of the C:\ drive.
>
> 2. The next time you format your C:\ drive, and just install the barebones
> components and applications that you will want. And you have "tweaked" all
> the settings the way you want them. For website settings, just go to the
> website, sign into the site. If the site stores the logon information in a
> cookie, then it will be there on the PC. Then make a Image copy of that
> setup using Acronis True Image, rename it something different from
> previous
> Image, and save the Image to another partition, HDD, or external storage
> device.
>
> One caveat, some financial website have added security that may not accept
> old cookies, and you will need go through the basic logon procedure again.
>
> 3. You will be able to restore your C:\ drive back using the recovery
> application, in Acronis TI, in less 30 mins (in most cases), with all the
> settings that you had before.
>
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> "Adi" wrote in message
> news:g4i26g0fas@enews2.newsguy.com...
> Hi, experts!
>
> After cleaning computer I must put again all username-s and all password-s
> for access to sites where I need them. Because I clean very often, its
> take
> time.
> How I can save all this different usernames and passwords, what program to
> use, which will return all at once.
>
> Thanks for any advice everybody!
>
> vouk.adolf@amis.net
>
>
>
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:36:45 +0200
author: Adi
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:08:45 +1000 from Erik Vastmasd
<erik.vastm@sd.invalid>:
> I always install my
> browsers, programmes and especially email programme, news reader etc. on
> D: drive. So when I need to re-install WinXP I don't lose any of my
> programme settings which includes my usernames and passwords.
You don't lose *all* of them, maybe, but you probably lose some and
most likely you lose most.
Few Windows programs these days write configuration information to
the program directory. most write either to the Registry or to
subfolders of C:\Documents and Settings\{your login}. You can move
Documents and Settings to another drive, but there's nothing you can
do about the registry except back it up.
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 06:53:13 -0400
author: Stan Brown
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
Adi added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
> Hi, experts!
>
> After cleaning computer I must put again all username-s and all
> password-s for access to sites where I need them. Because I clean
> very often, its take time.
> How I can save all this different usernames and passwords, what
> program to use, which will return all at once.
>
> Thanks for any advice everybody!
>
Please define "cleaning". What is it that you do that causes you to
lose all your settings, PW, et al? What I do periodically is first scan
for malware, then save everything using the Files and Settings Transfer
Wizard which will save everything useful including your Start Menu, E-
mail, IE, and all program usernames, PWs, preferences, etc. The trouble
with this for your need is that it won't necessarily work on another PC
in restore mode but to whatever extent it does work, it'll overwrite
all that stuff on the new PC.
Another way is more manual and that is to build a list of your most
important "secret" things, PW that file, and use it to rebuild what you
need on other PCs. The problem with this method is that it is time-
consuming and error prone.
--
HP, aka Jerry
"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"
date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:44:20 GMT
author: HEMI-Powered
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 06:53:13 -0400,when reading
"microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
of "Stan Brown " saying:
>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:08:45 +1000 from Erik Vastmasd
><erik.vastm@sd.invalid>:
>> I always install my
>> browsers, programmes and especially email programme, news reader etc. on
>> D: drive. So when I need to re-install WinXP I don't lose any of my
>> programme settings which includes my usernames and passwords.
>
>You don't lose *all* of them, maybe, but you probably lose some and
>most likely you lose most.
>
>Few Windows programs these days write configuration information to
>the program directory. most write either to the Registry or to
>subfolders of C:\Documents and Settings\{your login}. You can move
>Documents and Settings to another drive, but there's nothing you can
>do about the registry except back it up.
Just as an example on D: I have Opera as my browser, Eudora for email
and Agent for news groups.
When I re-install WinXP on C: all my passwords and settings for those
three programmes remain intact and they will generally run without
requiring re-installation.
--
Erik.
date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:30:23 +1000
author: Erik Vastmasd lid
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:30:23 +1000, Erik Vastmasd
<erik.vastm@sd.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 06:53:13 -0400,when reading
> "microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
> of "Stan Brown " saying:
>
> >Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:08:45 +1000 from Erik Vastmasd
> ><erik.vastm@sd.invalid>:
> >> I always install my
> >> browsers, programmes and especially email programme, news reader etc. on
> >> D: drive. So when I need to re-install WinXP I don't lose any of my
> >> programme settings which includes my usernames and passwords.
> >
> >You don't lose *all* of them, maybe, but you probably lose some and
> >most likely you lose most.
> >
> >Few Windows programs these days write configuration information to
> >the program directory. most write either to the Registry or to
> >subfolders of C:\Documents and Settings\{your login}. You can move
> >Documents and Settings to another drive, but there's nothing you can
> >do about the registry except back it up.
>
> Just as an example on D: I have Opera as my browser, Eudora for email
> and Agent for news groups.
>
> When I re-install WinXP on C: all my passwords and settings for those
> three programmes remain intact
Yes, there are some programs like that, and others that are the
opposite, as Stan said. The point is that you can not rely on all, or
even most, programs to behave that way, so installing programs on a
separate drive does not generally provide the benefit you ascribe to
it.
> and they will generally run without
> requiring re-installation.
And that behavior is very rare. Yes, again, there are some such
programs, but the great majority of those that are not very small have
registry entries and other entries within \windows. There are a few
exceptions, but in general, if Windows is reinstalled, almost everyone
can expect that they will have to reinstall all (or almost all) their
programs too.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:04:15 -0700
author: Ken Blake, MVP in
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:04:15 -0700,when reading
"microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
of ""Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain>" saying:
>On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:30:23 +1000, Erik Vastmasd
><erik.vastm@sd.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 06:53:13 -0400,when reading
>> "microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
>> of "Stan Brown " saying:
>>
>> >Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:08:45 +1000 from Erik Vastmasd
>> ><erik.vastm@sd.invalid>:
>> >> I always install my
>> >> browsers, programmes and especially email programme, news reader etc. on
>> >> D: drive. So when I need to re-install WinXP I don't lose any of my
>> >> programme settings which includes my usernames and passwords.
>> >
>> >You don't lose *all* of them, maybe, but you probably lose some and
>> >most likely you lose most.
>> >
>> >Few Windows programs these days write configuration information to
>> >the program directory. most write either to the Registry or to
>> >subfolders of C:\Documents and Settings\{your login}. You can move
>> >Documents and Settings to another drive, but there's nothing you can
>> >do about the registry except back it up.
>>
>> Just as an example on D: I have Opera as my browser, Eudora for email
>> and Agent for news groups.
In the above example I only mentioned three specific programmes that I
install on D: drive. I also have Chameleon Clock on D: which also
retains it's setting though it needs to be re-installed when I format C:
and re-install the operating system. UltraEdit is another on D: which
never requires re-installing.
Others such as the anti virus programme NOD32, the firewall Sygate,
MailWasher, Word 97 and the media player WinAmp didn't retain their
settings when I previously installed them on D; so now when I format C:
and re-install the operating system I install them on C: drive.
My E: drive is quite large and is where I store binaries, media and
music.
When I've run a dual boots it was convenient being able to access my
programmes on D: or music on E: from all operating systems.
I've visited<http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=326>
which I thought was excellent but still happy with my own PCs setup.
I'm aware of the importance of backups but I never backup C: because if
something goes wrong I'll lose nothing of importance. All I require from
Windows is to be able to run my computers and connect to the Internet.
I don't use Outlook Express, Messenger, Media Player etc.
I use IE6 every second week to go to Windows Update but use Windows
Explorer often. :-)
"My Documents" is always moved to D: "Archives".
All my downloads go to D: "Attic".
I backup everything on D: to an external hard disk every day and I
alternate between two external hard disks.
E: "My Music" doesn't often change so has infrequent backups.
>> When I re-install WinXP on C: all my passwords and settings for those
>> three programmes remain intact
>
>Yes, there are some programs like that, and others that are the
>opposite, as Stan said. The point is that you can not rely on all, or
>even most, programs to behave that way, so installing programs on a
>separate drive does not generally provide the benefit you ascribe to
>it.
My operating system can be re-installed from original CD in a couple of
hours and most of my important programmes can be run immediately the
re-install of my operating system is complete.
--
Erik.
date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:16:47 +1000
author: Erik Vastmasd lid
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:16:47 +1000, Erik Vastmasd
<erik.vastm@sd.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:04:15 -0700,when reading
> "microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
> of ""Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain>" saying:
> >> When I re-install WinXP on C: all my passwords and settings for those
> >> three programmes remain intact
> >
> >Yes, there are some programs like that, and others that are the
> >opposite, as Stan said. The point is that you can not rely on all, or
> >even most, programs to behave that way, so installing programs on a
> >separate drive does not generally provide the benefit you ascribe to
> >it.
>
> My operating system can be re-installed from original CD in a couple of
> hours and most of my important programmes can be run immediately the
> re-install of my operating system is complete.
That's fine. I'm not suggesting that you change what you're doing. If
that works for you and *your* programs, fine. My point is that it will
not work for most people and *their* programs.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:09:32 -0700
author: Ken Blake, MVP in
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:09:32 -0700,when reading
"microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
of ""Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain>" saying:
>On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:16:47 +1000, Erik Vastmasd
><erik.vastm@sd.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:04:15 -0700,when reading
>> "microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
>> of ""Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain>" saying:
>
>> >> When I re-install WinXP on C: all my passwords and settings for those
>> >> three programmes remain intact
>> >
>> >Yes, there are some programs like that, and others that are the
>> >opposite, as Stan said. The point is that you can not rely on all, or
>> >even most, programs to behave that way, so installing programs on a
>> >separate drive does not generally provide the benefit you ascribe to
>> >it.
>>
>> My operating system can be re-installed from original CD in a couple of
>> hours and most of my important programmes can be run immediately the
>> re-install of my operating system is complete.
>
>That's fine. I'm not suggesting that you change what you're doing. If
>that works for you and *your* programs, fine. My point is that it will
>not work for most people and *their* programs.
Thanks, I've got your point now. Sorry for my misunderstanding.
--
Erik.
date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:29:10 +1000
author: Erik Vastmasd lid
Re: How to save all username and passwords of one computer
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:29:10 +1000, Erik Vastmasd
<erik.vastm@sd.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:09:32 -0700,when reading
> "microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
> of ""Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain>" saying:
>
> >On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:16:47 +1000, Erik Vastmasd
> ><erik.vastm@sd.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:04:15 -0700,when reading
> >> "microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize", I'm certain I caught a glimpse
> >> of ""Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain>" saying:
> >
> >> >> When I re-install WinXP on C: all my passwords and settings for those
> >> >> three programmes remain intact
> >> >
> >> >Yes, there are some programs like that, and others that are the
> >> >opposite, as Stan said. The point is that you can not rely on all, or
> >> >even most, programs to behave that way, so installing programs on a
> >> >separate drive does not generally provide the benefit you ascribe to
> >> >it.
> >>
> >> My operating system can be re-installed from original CD in a couple of
> >> hours and most of my important programmes can be run immediately the
> >> re-install of my operating system is complete.
> >
> >That's fine. I'm not suggesting that you change what you're doing. If
> >that works for you and *your* programs, fine. My point is that it will
> >not work for most people and *their* programs.
>
> Thanks, I've got your point now. Sorry for my misunderstanding.
Not a problem.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:09:32 -0700
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