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date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:22:04 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.biztalk.appintegration        back       


Undeploying schema from BizTalk.System   
Somehow one of my schemas got installed in BizTalk.System application even 
though it is not the default application on my BizTalk server 2006 R2 
enterprise version. I need to undeploy it from there and install it in my 
targeted application. The problem is that we don't get any option to delete / 
move schema which are under BizTalk.System. Please suggest how can I do it? 

Additional info if needed:
No suspended / dehydrated instances waiting. No application using the schema 
mentioned. Dll containing those schemas are removed from GAC. 


thanks in advance,
date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:22:04 -0700   author:   Alok Kothana Alok

Re: Undeploying schema from BizTalk.System   
Hi,

I did not try this myself but you could try to fool BizTalk by temporarily 
changing the 'isSystem' field the BizTalkMgmtDb.

- Update table 'bts_application' in 'BizTalkMgmtDb' for the row that has 
'nvcName' value 'BizTalk.System'. Set the 'isSystem' field to 'False'.
- Restart BizTalk Admin Console.
- Try to delete the schema.
- Change the field in the database back to 'True'.
- Restart BizTalk Admin Console.

It it highly unrecommended to make changes to the BizTalk databases so try 
this as a 'last resort' option and at your own risk ;-). Make sure you have 
backups.

I also really wonder how this schema got installed in the BizTalk.System 
application.

HTH,

Randal van Splunteren


"Alok Kothana" <Alok Kothana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:D4CC2DDB-B769-469D-A22D-502640E30BCE@microsoft.com...
> Somehow one of my schemas got installed in BizTalk.System application even
> though it is not the default application on my BizTalk server 2006 R2
> enterprise version. I need to undeploy it from there and install it in my
> targeted application. The problem is that we don't get any option to 
> delete /
> move schema which are under BizTalk.System. Please suggest how can I do 
> it?
>
> Additional info if needed:
> No suspended / dehydrated instances waiting. No application using the 
> schema
> mentioned. Dll containing those schemas are removed from GAC.
>
>
> thanks in advance,
>
date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:07:10 +0100   author:   Randal van Splunteren

Re: Undeploying schema from BizTalk.System   
Not sure if this will work. Try to undeploy the assembly from Biztalk 
Explorer in Visual Studio.



"Randal van Splunteren" wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I did not try this myself but you could try to fool BizTalk by temporarily 
> changing the 'isSystem' field the BizTalkMgmtDb.
> 
> - Update table 'bts_application' in 'BizTalkMgmtDb' for the row that has 
> 'nvcName' value 'BizTalk.System'. Set the 'isSystem' field to 'False'.
> - Restart BizTalk Admin Console.
> - Try to delete the schema.
> - Change the field in the database back to 'True'.
> - Restart BizTalk Admin Console.
> 
> It it highly unrecommended to make changes to the BizTalk databases so try 
> this as a 'last resort' option and at your own risk ;-). Make sure you have 
> backups.
> 
> I also really wonder how this schema got installed in the BizTalk.System 
> application.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Randal van Splunteren
> 
> 
> "Alok Kothana" <Alok Kothana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
> news:D4CC2DDB-B769-469D-A22D-502640E30BCE@microsoft.com...
> > Somehow one of my schemas got installed in BizTalk.System application even
> > though it is not the default application on my BizTalk server 2006 R2
> > enterprise version. I need to undeploy it from there and install it in my
> > targeted application. The problem is that we don't get any option to 
> > delete /
> > move schema which are under BizTalk.System. Please suggest how can I do 
> > it?
> >
> > Additional info if needed:
> > No suspended / dehydrated instances waiting. No application using the 
> > schema
> > mentioned. Dll containing those schemas are removed from GAC.
> >
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> > 
> 
>
date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:26:04 -0700   author:   FQ

Re: Undeploying schema from BizTalk.System   
Hi,

Ok, I was curious and gave it a try. Both the 'Visual Studio' and the 
'IsSystem' solutions seem to work. The 'IsSystem' solution is the only 
possible approach if visual studio is not installed on the server and you 
can not connect to the biztalk installation from a remote visual studio 
installation on another machine. This is very likely when this is a 
production server.

HTH,

Randal van Splunteren


"FQ"  wrote in message 
news:34736684-4DD8-4260-9B5D-D709F3B157CE@microsoft.com...
> Not sure if this will work. Try to undeploy the assembly from Biztalk
> Explorer in Visual Studio.
>
>
>
> "Randal van Splunteren" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did not try this myself but you could try to fool BizTalk by 
>> temporarily
>> changing the 'isSystem' field the BizTalkMgmtDb.
>>
>> - Update table 'bts_application' in 'BizTalkMgmtDb' for the row that has
>> 'nvcName' value 'BizTalk.System'. Set the 'isSystem' field to 'False'.
>> - Restart BizTalk Admin Console.
>> - Try to delete the schema.
>> - Change the field in the database back to 'True'.
>> - Restart BizTalk Admin Console.
>>
>> It it highly unrecommended to make changes to the BizTalk databases so 
>> try
>> this as a 'last resort' option and at your own risk ;-). Make sure you 
>> have
>> backups.
>>
>> I also really wonder how this schema got installed in the BizTalk.System
>> application.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Randal van Splunteren
>>
>>
>> "Alok Kothana" <Alok Kothana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D4CC2DDB-B769-469D-A22D-502640E30BCE@microsoft.com...
>> > Somehow one of my schemas got installed in BizTalk.System application 
>> > even
>> > though it is not the default application on my BizTalk server 2006 R2
>> > enterprise version. I need to undeploy it from there and install it in 
>> > my
>> > targeted application. The problem is that we don't get any option to
>> > delete /
>> > move schema which are under BizTalk.System. Please suggest how can I do
>> > it?
>> >
>> > Additional info if needed:
>> > No suspended / dehydrated instances waiting. No application using the
>> > schema
>> > mentioned. Dll containing those schemas are removed from GAC.
>> >
>> >
>> > thanks in advance,
>> >
>>
>>
date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:32:49 +0100   author:   Randal van Splunteren

Re: Undeploying schema from BizTalk.System   
Thanks for the solution. I didn't find an "UnDeploy" option in Visual Studio 
though, "IsSystem" tweak worked. With that I found a better way to do it. Get 
application Id from 'bts_application' table and update table 'bts_assembly' 
setting 'nSystemProperty' to 0 and 'nApplicationId' to the application you 
want to move the assembly to.

thanks again.
Alok 

"Randal van Splunteren" wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Ok, I was curious and gave it a try. Both the 'Visual Studio' and the 
> 'IsSystem' solutions seem to work. The 'IsSystem' solution is the only 
> possible approach if visual studio is not installed on the server and you 
> can not connect to the biztalk installation from a remote visual studio 
> installation on another machine. This is very likely when this is a 
> production server.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Randal van Splunteren
> 
> 
> "FQ"  wrote in message 
> news:34736684-4DD8-4260-9B5D-D709F3B157CE@microsoft.com...
> > Not sure if this will work. Try to undeploy the assembly from Biztalk
> > Explorer in Visual Studio.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Randal van Splunteren" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I did not try this myself but you could try to fool BizTalk by 
> >> temporarily
> >> changing the 'isSystem' field the BizTalkMgmtDb.
> >>
> >> - Update table 'bts_application' in 'BizTalkMgmtDb' for the row that has
> >> 'nvcName' value 'BizTalk.System'. Set the 'isSystem' field to 'False'.
> >> - Restart BizTalk Admin Console.
> >> - Try to delete the schema.
> >> - Change the field in the database back to 'True'.
> >> - Restart BizTalk Admin Console.
> >>
> >> It it highly unrecommended to make changes to the BizTalk databases so 
> >> try
> >> this as a 'last resort' option and at your own risk ;-). Make sure you 
> >> have
> >> backups.
> >>
> >> I also really wonder how this schema got installed in the BizTalk.System
> >> application.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> Randal van Splunteren
> >>
> >>
> >> "Alok Kothana" <Alok Kothana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D4CC2DDB-B769-469D-A22D-502640E30BCE@microsoft.com...
> >> > Somehow one of my schemas got installed in BizTalk.System application 
> >> > even
> >> > though it is not the default application on my BizTalk server 2006 R2
> >> > enterprise version. I need to undeploy it from there and install it in 
> >> > my
> >> > targeted application. The problem is that we don't get any option to
> >> > delete /
> >> > move schema which are under BizTalk.System. Please suggest how can I do
> >> > it?
> >> >
> >> > Additional info if needed:
> >> > No suspended / dehydrated instances waiting. No application using the
> >> > schema
> >> > mentioned. Dll containing those schemas are removed from GAC.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > thanks in advance,
> >> >
> >>
> >> 
>
date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:53:01 -0700   author:   Alok Kothana

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