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date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:37:00 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.exchange2000.setup.installation        back       


Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
Hi there,
We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully patched). 
The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
gradually.
If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use the 
Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to configure a 
Live Communication Server?
Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but 
still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
TIA
Regards,
Veets
date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:37:00 -0400   author:   Veets

Re: Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
As long as you maintain the server as Exchange 2000 you can indeed keep 
running Exchange IM. but you will only be able to manage IM users through 
ADUC on the Exchange IM server (or through scripts\other machines with only 
the Exchange 2000 ESM loaded).

Regards,
Steven

"Veets"  wrote in message 
news:OHZET%23zfGHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi there,
> We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully patched). 
> The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
> We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
> gradually.
> If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use the 
> Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to configure 
> a Live Communication Server?
> Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 2003 
> but still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
> TIA
> Regards,
> Veets
>
date: Wed, 24 May 2006 11:57:49 -0400   author:   Steven

Re: Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
Thanks for the information Steven. Is this documented anywhere?
Regards,
Veets


"Steven"  wrote in message 
news:u61MSr0fGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> As long as you maintain the server as Exchange 2000 you can indeed keep 
> running Exchange IM. but you will only be able to manage IM users through 
> ADUC on the Exchange IM server (or through scripts\other machines with 
> only the Exchange 2000 ESM loaded).
>
> Regards,
> Steven
>
> "Veets"  wrote in message 
> news:OHZET%23zfGHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi there,
>> We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully patched). 
>> The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
>> We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
>> gradually.
>> If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use the 
>> Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to configure 
>> a Live Communication Server?
>> Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 2003 
>> but still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
>> TIA
>> Regards,
>> Veets
>>
>
>
date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:47:47 -0400   author:   Veets

Re: Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
Not sure...I'm sure if you google Exchange IM migration or something that it 
will come up, but honestly it's that simple.  I have that setup now 
(although I'm retiring it over the next week), but it's pretty straight 
forward.


"Veets"  wrote in message 
news:O4dC6o1fGHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the information Steven. Is this documented anywhere?
> Regards,
> Veets
>
>
> "Steven"  wrote in message 
> news:u61MSr0fGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> As long as you maintain the server as Exchange 2000 you can indeed keep 
>> running Exchange IM. but you will only be able to manage IM users through 
>> ADUC on the Exchange IM server (or through scripts\other machines with 
>> only the Exchange 2000 ESM loaded).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steven
>>
>> "Veets"  wrote in message 
>> news:OHZET%23zfGHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi there,
>>> We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully 
>>> patched). The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
>>> We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
>>> gradually.
>>> If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use the 
>>> Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to 
>>> configure a Live Communication Server?
>>> Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 2003 
>>> but still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
>>> TIA
>>> Regards,
>>> Veets
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:00:37 -0400   author:   Steven

Re: Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
Hmmm, Never noticed that..


I'm running the setup that you are planning. We have one of the DCs that has 
the 2000 ESM on it and didn't realize that we never put the 2003 ESM on it. 
So I guess we'll have to use that server to enable the IM and the other for 
the account creation.

The Setup works pretty good, though I think it is inevitable that we'll have 
to install LCS at some point... Exchange 12 probably wont talk well with 
2000

Scott<-
"Steven"  wrote in message 
news:u61MSr0fGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> As long as you maintain the server as Exchange 2000 you can indeed keep 
> running Exchange IM. but you will only be able to manage IM users through 
> ADUC on the Exchange IM server (or through scripts\other machines with 
> only the Exchange 2000 ESM loaded).
>
> Regards,
> Steven
>
> "Veets"  wrote in message 
> news:OHZET%23zfGHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi there,
>> We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully patched). 
>> The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
>> We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
>> gradually.
>> If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use the 
>> Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to configure 
>> a Live Communication Server?
>> Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 2003 
>> but still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
>> TIA
>> Regards,
>> Veets
>>
>
>
date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:20:37 -0700   author:   Scott Townsend alias

Re: Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
Steven/Scott,
Thanks for your input & comments.
Regards,
Veets

"Scott Townsend" <scooter@nospam.postalias> wrote in message 
news:OwA1nf3fGHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hmmm, Never noticed that..
>
>
> I'm running the setup that you are planning. We have one of the DCs that 
> has the 2000 ESM on it and didn't realize that we never put the 2003 ESM 
> on it. So I guess we'll have to use that server to enable the IM and the 
> other for the account creation.
>
> The Setup works pretty good, though I think it is inevitable that we'll 
> have to install LCS at some point... Exchange 12 probably wont talk well 
> with 2000
>
> Scott<-
> "Steven"  wrote in message 
> news:u61MSr0fGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> As long as you maintain the server as Exchange 2000 you can indeed keep 
>> running Exchange IM. but you will only be able to manage IM users through 
>> ADUC on the Exchange IM server (or through scripts\other machines with 
>> only the Exchange 2000 ESM loaded).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steven
>>
>> "Veets"  wrote in message 
>> news:OHZET%23zfGHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi there,
>>> We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully 
>>> patched). The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
>>> We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
>>> gradually.
>>> If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use the 
>>> Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to 
>>> configure a Live Communication Server?
>>> Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 2003 
>>> but still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
>>> TIA
>>> Regards,
>>> Veets
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:27:14 -0400   author:   Veets

Re: Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
Well it depends on your setup, but from what I can tell you could leave an 
Exchange 2000 machine in your Exchange org even if you are running Exchange 
2007 everywhere else.  As long as it's running just Exchange IM and not 
routing mail or anything you should be fine (although honestly some people 
will have pre-Exchange 2007 machines to suppose certain mail connectors), 
but at some point when support for Exchange 2000 ends then you'll have to 
ask yourself if your ready for the move to LCS.  Depending on your company 
and their use of LCS (which affects the design) it's an entirely different 
animal then Exchange IM (at least it is for me because I am using LCS 
Enterprise Edition (started with Standard Edition which is very straight 
forward)).  LCS is 100x more powerful then Exchange IM, but it's also a lot 
more complex.

"Scott Townsend" <scooter@nospam.postalias> wrote in message 
news:OwA1nf3fGHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hmmm, Never noticed that..
>
>
> I'm running the setup that you are planning. We have one of the DCs that 
> has the 2000 ESM on it and didn't realize that we never put the 2003 ESM 
> on it. So I guess we'll have to use that server to enable the IM and the 
> other for the account creation.
>
> The Setup works pretty good, though I think it is inevitable that we'll 
> have to install LCS at some point... Exchange 12 probably wont talk well 
> with 2000
>
> Scott<-
> "Steven"  wrote in message 
> news:u61MSr0fGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> As long as you maintain the server as Exchange 2000 you can indeed keep 
>> running Exchange IM. but you will only be able to manage IM users through 
>> ADUC on the Exchange IM server (or through scripts\other machines with 
>> only the Exchange 2000 ESM loaded).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steven
>>
>> "Veets"  wrote in message 
>> news:OHZET%23zfGHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi there,
>>> We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully 
>>> patched). The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
>>> We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
>>> gradually.
>>> If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use the 
>>> Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to 
>>> configure a Live Communication Server?
>>> Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 2003 
>>> but still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
>>> TIA
>>> Regards,
>>> Veets
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:30:45 -0400   author:   Steven

Re: Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
LCS is more Complex?  No... Come on...  it cant be!!!

Um Yeah I tried installing it once... I'm still not sleeping at night! 
Maybe at some point when I have lots of free time I'll try it again...

Scott<-
"Steven"  wrote in message 
news:OMQaQfAgGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Well it depends on your setup, but from what I can tell you could leave an 
> Exchange 2000 machine in your Exchange org even if you are running 
> Exchange 2007 everywhere else.  As long as it's running just Exchange IM 
> and not routing mail or anything you should be fine (although honestly 
> some people will have pre-Exchange 2007 machines to suppose certain mail 
> connectors), but at some point when support for Exchange 2000 ends then 
> you'll have to ask yourself if your ready for the move to LCS.  Depending 
> on your company and their use of LCS (which affects the design) it's an 
> entirely different animal then Exchange IM (at least it is for me because 
> I am using LCS Enterprise Edition (started with Standard Edition which is 
> very straight forward)).  LCS is 100x more powerful then Exchange IM, but 
> it's also a lot more complex.
>
> "Scott Townsend" <scooter@nospam.postalias> wrote in message 
> news:OwA1nf3fGHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hmmm, Never noticed that..
>>
>>
>> I'm running the setup that you are planning. We have one of the DCs that 
>> has the 2000 ESM on it and didn't realize that we never put the 2003 ESM 
>> on it. So I guess we'll have to use that server to enable the IM and the 
>> other for the account creation.
>>
>> The Setup works pretty good, though I think it is inevitable that we'll 
>> have to install LCS at some point... Exchange 12 probably wont talk well 
>> with 2000
>>
>> Scott<-
>> "Steven"  wrote in message 
>> news:u61MSr0fGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> As long as you maintain the server as Exchange 2000 you can indeed keep 
>>> running Exchange IM. but you will only be able to manage IM users 
>>> through ADUC on the Exchange IM server (or through scripts\other 
>>> machines with only the Exchange 2000 ESM loaded).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Steven
>>>
>>> "Veets"  wrote in message 
>>> news:OHZET%23zfGHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi there,
>>>> We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully 
>>>> patched). The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
>>>> We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
>>>> gradually.
>>>> If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use 
>>>> the Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to 
>>>> configure a Live Communication Server?
>>>> Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 2003 
>>>> but still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
>>>> TIA
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Veets
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Thu, 25 May 2006 08:04:45 -0700   author:   Scott Townsend alias

Re: Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
To LCS's benefit there is a TON of documentation out there...which is both 
good and bad.  To learn how to properly deploy an enterprise LCS EE 
deployment you end up having to read through 100s of pages of 
whitepapers...but in the end its all good.


"Scott Townsend" <scooter@nospam.postalias> wrote in message 
news:O8iCQyAgGHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> LCS is more Complex?  No... Come on...  it cant be!!!
>
> Um Yeah I tried installing it once... I'm still not sleeping at night! 
> Maybe at some point when I have lots of free time I'll try it again...
>
> Scott<-
> "Steven"  wrote in message 
> news:OMQaQfAgGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Well it depends on your setup, but from what I can tell you could leave 
>> an Exchange 2000 machine in your Exchange org even if you are running 
>> Exchange 2007 everywhere else.  As long as it's running just Exchange IM 
>> and not routing mail or anything you should be fine (although honestly 
>> some people will have pre-Exchange 2007 machines to suppose certain mail 
>> connectors), but at some point when support for Exchange 2000 ends then 
>> you'll have to ask yourself if your ready for the move to LCS.  Depending 
>> on your company and their use of LCS (which affects the design) it's an 
>> entirely different animal then Exchange IM (at least it is for me because 
>> I am using LCS Enterprise Edition (started with Standard Edition which is 
>> very straight forward)).  LCS is 100x more powerful then Exchange IM, but 
>> it's also a lot more complex.
>>
>> "Scott Townsend" <scooter@nospam.postalias> wrote in message 
>> news:OwA1nf3fGHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hmmm, Never noticed that..
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm running the setup that you are planning. We have one of the DCs that 
>>> has the 2000 ESM on it and didn't realize that we never put the 2003 ESM 
>>> on it. So I guess we'll have to use that server to enable the IM and the 
>>> other for the account creation.
>>>
>>> The Setup works pretty good, though I think it is inevitable that we'll 
>>> have to install LCS at some point... Exchange 12 probably wont talk well 
>>> with 2000
>>>
>>> Scott<-
>>> "Steven"  wrote in message 
>>> news:u61MSr0fGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> As long as you maintain the server as Exchange 2000 you can indeed keep 
>>>> running Exchange IM. but you will only be able to manage IM users 
>>>> through ADUC on the Exchange IM server (or through scripts\other 
>>>> machines with only the Exchange 2000 ESM loaded).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Steven
>>>>
>>>> "Veets"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:OHZET%23zfGHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>> We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully 
>>>>> patched). The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
>>>>> We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
>>>>> gradually.
>>>>> If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use 
>>>>> the Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to 
>>>>> configure a Live Communication Server?
>>>>> Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 
>>>>> 2003 but still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Veets
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Thu, 25 May 2006 12:45:59 -0400   author:   Steven

Re: Upgrade Mailboxes to Exchange 2003 but keep IM on Exchange 2000   
What, Read the Manual?    (-;

"Steven"  wrote in message 
news:O9WY0qBgGHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> To LCS's benefit there is a TON of documentation out there...which is both 
> good and bad.  To learn how to properly deploy an enterprise LCS EE 
> deployment you end up having to read through 100s of pages of 
> whitepapers...but in the end its all good.
>
>
> "Scott Townsend" <scooter@nospam.postalias> wrote in message 
> news:O8iCQyAgGHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> LCS is more Complex?  No... Come on...  it cant be!!!
>>
>> Um Yeah I tried installing it once... I'm still not sleeping at night! 
>> Maybe at some point when I have lots of free time I'll try it again...
>>
>> Scott<-
>> "Steven"  wrote in message 
>> news:OMQaQfAgGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Well it depends on your setup, but from what I can tell you could leave 
>>> an Exchange 2000 machine in your Exchange org even if you are running 
>>> Exchange 2007 everywhere else.  As long as it's running just Exchange IM 
>>> and not routing mail or anything you should be fine (although honestly 
>>> some people will have pre-Exchange 2007 machines to suppose certain mail 
>>> connectors), but at some point when support for Exchange 2000 ends then 
>>> you'll have to ask yourself if your ready for the move to LCS. 
>>> Depending on your company and their use of LCS (which affects the 
>>> design) it's an entirely different animal then Exchange IM (at least it 
>>> is for me because I am using LCS Enterprise Edition (started with 
>>> Standard Edition which is very straight forward)).  LCS is 100x more 
>>> powerful then Exchange IM, but it's also a lot more complex.
>>>
>>> "Scott Townsend" <scooter@nospam.postalias> wrote in message 
>>> news:OwA1nf3fGHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hmmm, Never noticed that..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm running the setup that you are planning. We have one of the DCs 
>>>> that has the 2000 ESM on it and didn't realize that we never put the 
>>>> 2003 ESM on it. So I guess we'll have to use that server to enable the 
>>>> IM and the other for the account creation.
>>>>
>>>> The Setup works pretty good, though I think it is inevitable that we'll 
>>>> have to install LCS at some point... Exchange 12 probably wont talk 
>>>> well with 2000
>>>>
>>>> Scott<-
>>>> "Steven"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:u61MSr0fGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> As long as you maintain the server as Exchange 2000 you can indeed 
>>>>> keep running Exchange IM. but you will only be able to manage IM users 
>>>>> through ADUC on the Exchange IM server (or through scripts\other 
>>>>> machines with only the Exchange 2000 ESM loaded).
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Steven
>>>>>
>>>>> "Veets"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:OHZET%23zfGHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>> We're currently running Exchange 2000 Enterprise Edition (fully 
>>>>>> patched). The server is also setup as an Instant Messenger server.
>>>>>> We plan on setting up an Exchange 2003 server & moving the users over 
>>>>>> gradually.
>>>>>> If we move the users over the new server however, can they still use 
>>>>>> the Instant Messenging service on the old server, or, do we need to 
>>>>>> configure a Live Communication Server?
>>>>>> Basically, I want to know if we can move the mailboxes to Exchange 
>>>>>> 2003 but still keep using Exchange 2000 for Instant Messenging.
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Veets
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Tue, 30 May 2006 07:00:41 -0700   author:   Scott Townsend alias

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