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date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:19:31 -0600,    group: microsoft.public.exchange2000.setup.installation        back       


Test Exchange before changing MX records   
I am in the process of setting up an Exchange server for my network.  It's 
part of SBS but since this question is related solely to Exchange, I figured 
I would do better to ask it here.

Our email is currently hosted by our ISP.  The clients currently use Outlook 
to download their POP3 mail directly from the ISP's servers.  I have 
Exchange set up and running and all appears fine, but before I change our 
DNS MX records to point to our IP address and move everyone to Exchange, I 
would like to test the Exchange setup by sending it an email to see if it 
receives it without any problem.

How can I send it a test email when there is no current MX record pointing a 
domain name to our IP address?

I tried creating an account in outlook and using our IP address as the SMTP 
server in the account details and then sending an email, but Outlook said it 
couldn't find the outgoing server.  I guess that's a good thing so that 
people can't just point their email apps to our server to send mail from, 
but it didn't help me out.

I have port 25 open on our firewall and routed to the Exchange server (using 
port forwarding since we only have one static IP).

Do I need to set up a test email server offsite with DNS on it and set up a 
DNS entry on that test server to point our domain to our IP, and then send 
an email using that box as the sending email accounts MTA server?  This 
seems like a long way around what should be a simple problem.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jeff
date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:19:31 -0600   author:   Jeff Foster

Re: Test Exchange before changing MX records   
- Send email from a telnet session (from outside your firewall)
http://www.suneja.com/blog/2005/10/sending-mail-from-telnet-session.html
- Make sure Recipient Policy has generated email addresses with your 
public/registered domain as default
-- 
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------


"Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
news:%23BMPUuM$FHA.2264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I am in the process of setting up an Exchange server for my network.  It's 
>part of SBS but since this question is related solely to Exchange, I 
>figured I would do better to ask it here.
>
> Our email is currently hosted by our ISP.  The clients currently use 
> Outlook to download their POP3 mail directly from the ISP's servers.  I 
> have Exchange set up and running and all appears fine, but before I change 
> our DNS MX records to point to our IP address and move everyone to 
> Exchange, I would like to test the Exchange setup by sending it an email 
> to see if it receives it without any problem.
>
> How can I send it a test email when there is no current MX record pointing 
> a domain name to our IP address?
>
> I tried creating an account in outlook and using our IP address as the 
> SMTP server in the account details and then sending an email, but Outlook 
> said it couldn't find the outgoing server.  I guess that's a good thing so 
> that people can't just point their email apps to our server to send mail 
> from, but it didn't help me out.
>
> I have port 25 open on our firewall and routed to the Exchange server 
> (using port forwarding since we only have one static IP).
>
> Do I need to set up a test email server offsite with DNS on it and set up 
> a DNS entry on that test server to point our domain to our IP, and then 
> send an email using that box as the sending email accounts MTA server? 
> This seems like a long way around what should be a simple problem.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 06:51:38 -0800   author:   Bharat Suneja

Re: Test Exchange before changing MX records   
Thank you very much.  That looks like exactly what I need.  I'll try that 
out as soon as I get a chance.

Jeff


"Bharat Suneja"  wrote in message 
news:%23H53OAN$FHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>- Send email from a telnet session (from outside your firewall)
> http://www.suneja.com/blog/2005/10/sending-mail-from-telnet-session.html
> - Make sure Recipient Policy has generated email addresses with your 
> public/registered domain as default
> -- 
> Bharat Suneja
> MCSE, MCT
> www.zenprise.com
> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
> -----------------------------------
>
>
> "Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
> news:%23BMPUuM$FHA.2264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>I am in the process of setting up an Exchange server for my network.  It's 
>>part of SBS but since this question is related solely to Exchange, I 
>>figured I would do better to ask it here.
>>
>> Our email is currently hosted by our ISP.  The clients currently use 
>> Outlook to download their POP3 mail directly from the ISP's servers.  I 
>> have Exchange set up and running and all appears fine, but before I 
>> change our DNS MX records to point to our IP address and move everyone to 
>> Exchange, I would like to test the Exchange setup by sending it an email 
>> to see if it receives it without any problem.
>>
>> How can I send it a test email when there is no current MX record 
>> pointing a domain name to our IP address?
>>
>> I tried creating an account in outlook and using our IP address as the 
>> SMTP server in the account details and then sending an email, but Outlook 
>> said it couldn't find the outgoing server.  I guess that's a good thing 
>> so that people can't just point their email apps to our server to send 
>> mail from, but it didn't help me out.
>>
>> I have port 25 open on our firewall and routed to the Exchange server 
>> (using port forwarding since we only have one static IP).
>>
>> Do I need to set up a test email server offsite with DNS on it and set up 
>> a DNS entry on that test server to point our domain to our IP, and then 
>> send an email using that box as the sending email accounts MTA server? 
>> This seems like a long way around what should be a simple problem.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:04:00 -0600   author:   Jeff Foster

Re: Test Exchange before changing MX records   
Alright...I tried that and have two questions relating to those 
instructions.

1. I did step one from inside the firewall and I got a response from 
Exchange.  However that was it.  I didn't get another prompt to type in any 
of the remaining commands.  Do I need to start a new telnet session for step 
two or am I missing something necessary for this telnet email session to 
work?

2. I tried step one from outside the firewall and received no response.  The 
telnet session would not connect.  I verified that the firewall was set to 
allow TCP packets destined for port 25 through and I verified that the port 
forwarding was set to send them to the Exchange server's private IP address. 
is there a second port hat needs to be opened and forwarded to the Exchange 
server to complete the telnet connection?

I have not yet verified with my personal ISP that they are not blocking port 
25 traffic on their network (although I doubt they are since my personal 
email has to connect to their email server using port 25).  I will be 
researching that right away but I wanted to post this first.

Thanks,
Jeff

"Bharat Suneja"  wrote in message 
news:%23H53OAN$FHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>- Send email from a telnet session (from outside your firewall)
> http://www.suneja.com/blog/2005/10/sending-mail-from-telnet-session.html
> - Make sure Recipient Policy has generated email addresses with your 
> public/registered domain as default
> -- 
> Bharat Suneja
> MCSE, MCT
> www.zenprise.com
> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
> -----------------------------------
>
>
> "Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
> news:%23BMPUuM$FHA.2264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>I am in the process of setting up an Exchange server for my network.  It's 
>>part of SBS but since this question is related solely to Exchange, I 
>>figured I would do better to ask it here.
>>
>> Our email is currently hosted by our ISP.  The clients currently use 
>> Outlook to download their POP3 mail directly from the ISP's servers.  I 
>> have Exchange set up and running and all appears fine, but before I 
>> change our DNS MX records to point to our IP address and move everyone to 
>> Exchange, I would like to test the Exchange setup by sending it an email 
>> to see if it receives it without any problem.
>>
>> How can I send it a test email when there is no current MX record 
>> pointing a domain name to our IP address?
>>
>> I tried creating an account in outlook and using our IP address as the 
>> SMTP server in the account details and then sending an email, but Outlook 
>> said it couldn't find the outgoing server.  I guess that's a good thing 
>> so that people can't just point their email apps to our server to send 
>> mail from, but it didn't help me out.
>>
>> I have port 25 open on our firewall and routed to the Exchange server 
>> (using port forwarding since we only have one static IP).
>>
>> Do I need to set up a test email server offsite with DNS on it and set up 
>> a DNS entry on that test server to point our domain to our IP, and then 
>> send an email using that box as the sending email accounts MTA server? 
>> This seems like a long way around what should be a simple problem.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:38:24 -0600   author:   Jeff Foster

Re: Test Exchange before changing MX records   
Regarding number two below...I contacted my ISP and they were blocking port 
25.  I have requested that they remove that filter.

My confusion still stands regarding number one below.

Jeff

"Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
news:%23kE8fgP$FHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Alright...I tried that and have two questions relating to those 
> instructions.
>
> 1. I did step one from inside the firewall and I got a response from 
> Exchange.  However that was it.  I didn't get another prompt to type in 
> any of the remaining commands.  Do I need to start a new telnet session 
> for step two or am I missing something necessary for this telnet email 
> session to work?
>
> 2. I tried step one from outside the firewall and received no response. 
> The telnet session would not connect.  I verified that the firewall was 
> set to allow TCP packets destined for port 25 through and I verified that 
> the port forwarding was set to send them to the Exchange server's private 
> IP address. is there a second port hat needs to be opened and forwarded to 
> the Exchange server to complete the telnet connection?
>
> I have not yet verified with my personal ISP that they are not blocking 
> port 25 traffic on their network (although I doubt they are since my 
> personal email has to connect to their email server using port 25).  I 
> will be researching that right away but I wanted to post this first.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> "Bharat Suneja"  wrote in message 
> news:%23H53OAN$FHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>- Send email from a telnet session (from outside your firewall)
>> http://www.suneja.com/blog/2005/10/sending-mail-from-telnet-session.html
>> - Make sure Recipient Policy has generated email addresses with your 
>> public/registered domain as default
>> -- 
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MCSE, MCT
>> www.zenprise.com
>> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
>> news:%23BMPUuM$FHA.2264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>I am in the process of setting up an Exchange server for my network. 
>>>It's part of SBS but since this question is related solely to Exchange, I 
>>>figured I would do better to ask it here.
>>>
>>> Our email is currently hosted by our ISP.  The clients currently use 
>>> Outlook to download their POP3 mail directly from the ISP's servers.  I 
>>> have Exchange set up and running and all appears fine, but before I 
>>> change our DNS MX records to point to our IP address and move everyone 
>>> to Exchange, I would like to test the Exchange setup by sending it an 
>>> email to see if it receives it without any problem.
>>>
>>> How can I send it a test email when there is no current MX record 
>>> pointing a domain name to our IP address?
>>>
>>> I tried creating an account in outlook and using our IP address as the 
>>> SMTP server in the account details and then sending an email, but 
>>> Outlook said it couldn't find the outgoing server.  I guess that's a 
>>> good thing so that people can't just point their email apps to our 
>>> server to send mail from, but it didn't help me out.
>>>
>>> I have port 25 open on our firewall and routed to the Exchange server 
>>> (using port forwarding since we only have one static IP).
>>>
>>> Do I need to set up a test email server offsite with DNS on it and set 
>>> up a DNS entry on that test server to point our domain to our IP, and 
>>> then send an email using that box as the sending email accounts MTA 
>>> server? This seems like a long way around what should be a simple 
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:59:38 -0600   author:   Jeff Foster

Re: Test Exchange before changing MX records   
Hi,

Telnet to a SMTP server doesn't give you a prompt. You should get a 250 
(which means OK) after each successfull command.

Leif

"Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
news:%23kE8fgP$FHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Alright...I tried that and have two questions relating to those 
> instructions.
>
> 1. I did step one from inside the firewall and I got a response from 
> Exchange.  However that was it.  I didn't get another prompt to type in 
> any of the remaining commands.  Do I need to start a new telnet session 
> for step two or am I missing something necessary for this telnet email 
> session to work?
>
> 2. I tried step one from outside the firewall and received no response. 
> The telnet session would not connect.  I verified that the firewall was 
> set to allow TCP packets destined for port 25 through and I verified that 
> the port forwarding was set to send them to the Exchange server's private 
> IP address. is there a second port hat needs to be opened and forwarded to 
> the Exchange server to complete the telnet connection?
>
> I have not yet verified with my personal ISP that they are not blocking 
> port 25 traffic on their network (although I doubt they are since my 
> personal email has to connect to their email server using port 25).  I 
> will be researching that right away but I wanted to post this first.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> "Bharat Suneja"  wrote in message 
> news:%23H53OAN$FHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>- Send email from a telnet session (from outside your firewall)
>> http://www.suneja.com/blog/2005/10/sending-mail-from-telnet-session.html
>> - Make sure Recipient Policy has generated email addresses with your 
>> public/registered domain as default
>> -- 
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MCSE, MCT
>> www.zenprise.com
>> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
>> news:%23BMPUuM$FHA.2264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>I am in the process of setting up an Exchange server for my network. 
>>>It's part of SBS but since this question is related solely to Exchange, I 
>>>figured I would do better to ask it here.
>>>
>>> Our email is currently hosted by our ISP.  The clients currently use 
>>> Outlook to download their POP3 mail directly from the ISP's servers.  I 
>>> have Exchange set up and running and all appears fine, but before I 
>>> change our DNS MX records to point to our IP address and move everyone 
>>> to Exchange, I would like to test the Exchange setup by sending it an 
>>> email to see if it receives it without any problem.
>>>
>>> How can I send it a test email when there is no current MX record 
>>> pointing a domain name to our IP address?
>>>
>>> I tried creating an account in outlook and using our IP address as the 
>>> SMTP server in the account details and then sending an email, but 
>>> Outlook said it couldn't find the outgoing server.  I guess that's a 
>>> good thing so that people can't just point their email apps to our 
>>> server to send mail from, but it didn't help me out.
>>>
>>> I have port 25 open on our firewall and routed to the Exchange server 
>>> (using port forwarding since we only have one static IP).
>>>
>>> Do I need to set up a test email server offsite with DNS on it and set 
>>> up a DNS entry on that test server to point our domain to our IP, and 
>>> then send an email using that box as the sending email accounts MTA 
>>> server? This seems like a long way around what should be a simple 
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:04:41 +0100   author:   Leif Pedersen [MVP]

Re: Test Exchange before changing MX records   
If you follow the instructions - the server doesn't prompt you to 
type/complete remaining commands - simply responds back with a 220 banner 
and 250s after each command completed.
-- 
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------


"Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
news:%23kE8fgP$FHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Alright...I tried that and have two questions relating to those 
> instructions.
>
> 1. I did step one from inside the firewall and I got a response from 
> Exchange.  However that was it.  I didn't get another prompt to type in 
> any of the remaining commands.  Do I need to start a new telnet session 
> for step two or am I missing something necessary for this telnet email 
> session to work?
>
> 2. I tried step one from outside the firewall and received no response. 
> The telnet session would not connect.  I verified that the firewall was 
> set to allow TCP packets destined for port 25 through and I verified that 
> the port forwarding was set to send them to the Exchange server's private 
> IP address. is there a second port hat needs to be opened and forwarded to 
> the Exchange server to complete the telnet connection?
>
> I have not yet verified with my personal ISP that they are not blocking 
> port 25 traffic on their network (although I doubt they are since my 
> personal email has to connect to their email server using port 25).  I 
> will be researching that right away but I wanted to post this first.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> "Bharat Suneja"  wrote in message 
> news:%23H53OAN$FHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>- Send email from a telnet session (from outside your firewall)
>> http://www.suneja.com/blog/2005/10/sending-mail-from-telnet-session.html
>> - Make sure Recipient Policy has generated email addresses with your 
>> public/registered domain as default
>> -- 
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MCSE, MCT
>> www.zenprise.com
>> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
>> news:%23BMPUuM$FHA.2264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>I am in the process of setting up an Exchange server for my network. 
>>>It's part of SBS but since this question is related solely to Exchange, I 
>>>figured I would do better to ask it here.
>>>
>>> Our email is currently hosted by our ISP.  The clients currently use 
>>> Outlook to download their POP3 mail directly from the ISP's servers.  I 
>>> have Exchange set up and running and all appears fine, but before I 
>>> change our DNS MX records to point to our IP address and move everyone 
>>> to Exchange, I would like to test the Exchange setup by sending it an 
>>> email to see if it receives it without any problem.
>>>
>>> How can I send it a test email when there is no current MX record 
>>> pointing a domain name to our IP address?
>>>
>>> I tried creating an account in outlook and using our IP address as the 
>>> SMTP server in the account details and then sending an email, but 
>>> Outlook said it couldn't find the outgoing server.  I guess that's a 
>>> good thing so that people can't just point their email apps to our 
>>> server to send mail from, but it didn't help me out.
>>>
>>> I have port 25 open on our firewall and routed to the Exchange server 
>>> (using port forwarding since we only have one static IP).
>>>
>>> Do I need to set up a test email server offsite with DNS on it and set 
>>> up a DNS entry on that test server to point our domain to our IP, and 
>>> then send an email using that box as the sending email accounts MTA 
>>> server? This seems like a long way around what should be a simple 
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 14:09:42 -0800   author:   Bharat Suneja

Re: Test Exchange before changing MX records   
Thank you for your help.  I fugured out what the issue was.  My ISP did have 
a port 25 block which I had them lift.  Once lifted, I still couldn't 
connect so I checked my firewall settings again and found that the port 25 
filter on my firewall was not set up correctly.  I changed it and was then 
able to connect without any trouble.  The telnet session worked fine.

Thanks again.

Jeff

"Bharat Suneja"  wrote in message 
news:ePcCF1Q$FHA.292@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> If you follow the instructions - the server doesn't prompt you to 
> type/complete remaining commands - simply responds back with a 220 banner 
> and 250s after each command completed.
> -- 
> Bharat Suneja
> MCSE, MCT
> www.zenprise.com
> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
> -----------------------------------------
>
>
> "Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
> news:%23kE8fgP$FHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Alright...I tried that and have two questions relating to those 
>> instructions.
>>
>> 1. I did step one from inside the firewall and I got a response from 
>> Exchange.  However that was it.  I didn't get another prompt to type in 
>> any of the remaining commands.  Do I need to start a new telnet session 
>> for step two or am I missing something necessary for this telnet email 
>> session to work?
>>
>> 2. I tried step one from outside the firewall and received no response. 
>> The telnet session would not connect.  I verified that the firewall was 
>> set to allow TCP packets destined for port 25 through and I verified that 
>> the port forwarding was set to send them to the Exchange server's private 
>> IP address. is there a second port hat needs to be opened and forwarded 
>> to the Exchange server to complete the telnet connection?
>>
>> I have not yet verified with my personal ISP that they are not blocking 
>> port 25 traffic on their network (although I doubt they are since my 
>> personal email has to connect to their email server using port 25).  I 
>> will be researching that right away but I wanted to post this first.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>> "Bharat Suneja"  wrote in message 
>> news:%23H53OAN$FHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>- Send email from a telnet session (from outside your firewall)
>>> http://www.suneja.com/blog/2005/10/sending-mail-from-telnet-session.html
>>> - Make sure Recipient Policy has generated email addresses with your 
>>> public/registered domain as default
>>> -- 
>>> Bharat Suneja
>>> MCSE, MCT
>>> www.zenprise.com
>>> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
>>> -----------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Foster"  wrote in message 
>>> news:%23BMPUuM$FHA.2264@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>I am in the process of setting up an Exchange server for my network. 
>>>>It's part of SBS but since this question is related solely to Exchange, 
>>>>I figured I would do better to ask it here.
>>>>
>>>> Our email is currently hosted by our ISP.  The clients currently use 
>>>> Outlook to download their POP3 mail directly from the ISP's servers.  I 
>>>> have Exchange set up and running and all appears fine, but before I 
>>>> change our DNS MX records to point to our IP address and move everyone 
>>>> to Exchange, I would like to test the Exchange setup by sending it an 
>>>> email to see if it receives it without any problem.
>>>>
>>>> How can I send it a test email when there is no current MX record 
>>>> pointing a domain name to our IP address?
>>>>
>>>> I tried creating an account in outlook and using our IP address as the 
>>>> SMTP server in the account details and then sending an email, but 
>>>> Outlook said it couldn't find the outgoing server.  I guess that's a 
>>>> good thing so that people can't just point their email apps to our 
>>>> server to send mail from, but it didn't help me out.
>>>>
>>>> I have port 25 open on our firewall and routed to the Exchange server 
>>>> (using port forwarding since we only have one static IP).
>>>>
>>>> Do I need to set up a test email server offsite with DNS on it and set 
>>>> up a DNS entry on that test server to point our domain to our IP, and 
>>>> then send an email using that box as the sending email accounts MTA 
>>>> server? This seems like a long way around what should be a simple 
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:44:56 -0600   author:   Jeff Foster

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