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date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:41:20 +0200,
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Re: how to know the Size of the private store? (Exchange 2003 standard edition)
Thanks Mark,
So, when speaking about the 16 gigabytes limit, this limit applies to the
edb file?
Yes, our Backup includes logically all the TSLogs, abd the public store
(that is quite small), but anyway how to know the real size of the database?
the size that MS speaks about when taliking about the 16 gigabyte limit?
"Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
news:p90vk1lob3i9fdtjou6tgh3hl506v1h3af@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:41:20 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'l trying to determinate the size of the private store. I'd like to know
>>if
>>the edb file size is the same than the size of the private store, or there
>>is a different way of knowing its real size.
>>
>>I'm saying this because our total exchange backup takes 12 gigabytes,
>>where
>>our edb file is 9 gigabytes big.
>>
>>
>>Thanks!!!
>>
> And how big is the STM that is partnered with the EDB.
> Also, you talk about one EDB. If you just did a default backup of the
> box you will have the Private and the Public, that's another EDB
> altogether and another STM attached to that EDB.
>
> Tot up all four files and see what you get.
date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:08:56 +0200
author: NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER
Re: how to know the Size of the private store? (Exchange 2003 standard edition)
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:08:56 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
wrote:
>Thanks Mark,
>
>So, when speaking about the 16 gigabytes limit, this limit applies to the
>edb file?
The 16GB limit applies to each pair (EDB and STM) Each pair can total
16GB, so you do have 32GB of storage but can only have one private and
one public store.
>Yes, our Backup includes logically all the TSLogs, abd the public store
>(that is quite small), but anyway how to know the real size of the database?
>the size that MS speaks about when taliking about the 16 gigabyte limit?
The 16GB is the limit of the cumulative file sizes (EDB + STM) If you
look at the event log you will see event id 1221 which will tell you
how much free space is inside the database (and you do the maths to
see how much mail you have)
>
>
>"Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
>news:p90vk1lob3i9fdtjou6tgh3hl506v1h3af@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:41:20 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I'l trying to determinate the size of the private store. I'd like to know
>>>if
>>>the edb file size is the same than the size of the private store, or there
>>>is a different way of knowing its real size.
>>>
>>>I'm saying this because our total exchange backup takes 12 gigabytes,
>>>where
>>>our edb file is 9 gigabytes big.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks!!!
>>>
>> And how big is the STM that is partnered with the EDB.
>> Also, you talk about one EDB. If you just did a default backup of the
>> box you will have the Private and the Public, that's another EDB
>> altogether and another STM attached to that EDB.
>>
>> Tot up all four files and see what you get.
>
date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:03:28 +0100
author: Mark Arnold [MVP]
Re: how to know the Size of the private store? (Exchange 2003 standard edition)
Hi again, Mark,
I think there is a misunderstanding, the event 1221 just says the freespace
there is after the defragmentation (so teh space the defragmentation
cleared) , not the total free space...
"Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
news:uf7vk1di415ir9r28vbovhn7oblb4m0eod@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:08:56 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
> wrote:
>
>>Thanks Mark,
>>
>>So, when speaking about the 16 gigabytes limit, this limit applies to the
>>edb file?
>
> The 16GB limit applies to each pair (EDB and STM) Each pair can total
> 16GB, so you do have 32GB of storage but can only have one private and
> one public store.
>
>>Yes, our Backup includes logically all the TSLogs, abd the public store
>>(that is quite small), but anyway how to know the real size of the
>>database?
>>the size that MS speaks about when taliking about the 16 gigabyte limit?
>
> The 16GB is the limit of the cumulative file sizes (EDB + STM) If you
> look at the event log you will see event id 1221 which will tell you
> how much free space is inside the database (and you do the maths to
> see how much mail you have)
>
>>
>>
>>"Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
>>news:p90vk1lob3i9fdtjou6tgh3hl506v1h3af@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:41:20 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I'l trying to determinate the size of the private store. I'd like to
>>>>know
>>>>if
>>>>the edb file size is the same than the size of the private store, or
>>>>there
>>>>is a different way of knowing its real size.
>>>>
>>>>I'm saying this because our total exchange backup takes 12 gigabytes,
>>>>where
>>>>our edb file is 9 gigabytes big.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!!!
>>>>
>>> And how big is the STM that is partnered with the EDB.
>>> Also, you talk about one EDB. If you just did a default backup of the
>>> box you will have the Private and the Public, that's another EDB
>>> altogether and another STM attached to that EDB.
>>>
>>> Tot up all four files and see what you get.
>>
>
date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:26:18 +0200
author: NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER
Re: how to know the Size of the private store? (Exchange 2003 standard edition)
Hi,
Mark is telling you the truth. The 1221 event tells you how much free space
there is inside the database.
Leif
"NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER" skrev i en meddelelse
news:%23nvM8pL0FHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
> Hi again, Mark,
>
> I think there is a misunderstanding, the event 1221 just says the
freespace
> there is after the defragmentation (so teh space the defragmentation
> cleared) , not the total free space...
>
>
> "Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
> news:uf7vk1di415ir9r28vbovhn7oblb4m0eod@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:08:56 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Thanks Mark,
> >>
> >>So, when speaking about the 16 gigabytes limit, this limit applies to
the
> >>edb file?
> >
> > The 16GB limit applies to each pair (EDB and STM) Each pair can total
> > 16GB, so you do have 32GB of storage but can only have one private and
> > one public store.
> >
> >>Yes, our Backup includes logically all the TSLogs, abd the public store
> >>(that is quite small), but anyway how to know the real size of the
> >>database?
> >>the size that MS speaks about when taliking about the 16 gigabyte limit?
> >
> > The 16GB is the limit of the cumulative file sizes (EDB + STM) If you
> > look at the event log you will see event id 1221 which will tell you
> > how much free space is inside the database (and you do the maths to
> > see how much mail you have)
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>"Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
> >>news:p90vk1lob3i9fdtjou6tgh3hl506v1h3af@4ax.com...
> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:41:20 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>I'l trying to determinate the size of the private store. I'd like to
> >>>>know
> >>>>if
> >>>>the edb file size is the same than the size of the private store, or
> >>>>there
> >>>>is a different way of knowing its real size.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm saying this because our total exchange backup takes 12 gigabytes,
> >>>>where
> >>>>our edb file is 9 gigabytes big.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks!!!
> >>>>
> >>> And how big is the STM that is partnered with the EDB.
> >>> Also, you talk about one EDB. If you just did a default backup of the
> >>> box you will have the Private and the Public, that's another EDB
> >>> altogether and another STM attached to that EDB.
> >>>
> >>> Tot up all four files and see what you get.
> >>
> >
>
>
>
date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:45:04 +0200
author: Leif Pedersen [MVP]
Re: how to know the Size of the private store? (Exchange 2003 standard edition)
Sorry to disagree:
http://www.amset.info/exchange/event1221.asp
Event ID 1221 and Database Free Space
Author: Simon Butler MVP:Exchange
Last Page Review: 25/09/2005
Exchange Server
Compatibility Information
Exchange
Server Version
Compatibility 5.5 Yes
2000 Yes
2003 Yes
A common posting on newsgroups and forums from new Exchange
administrators is when they look the event logs on their Exchange server and
find this:
Event Type: Information
Event Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox Store
Event Category: General
Event ID: 1221
Date: 01/01/2005
Time: 00:04:16
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description: The database "First Storage Group\Mailbox Store
(SERVER)" has 3.4 megabytes of free space after online defragmentation has
terminated.
They then post a message about their Exchange server running out of
space, and how to increase it.
There are a number of issues here, which will be dealt with
separately.
What does this message mean?
What it means is that Exchange has carried out some routine
maintenance on the Exchange database. Any old data that is past the delete
thresholds has been deleted from the database.
The space it has left behind has then been consolidated, in to "white
space". The size of the database hasn't changed - there is just some space
within the database.
This "white space" will be used by Exchange first, before expanding
the database any larger.
"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" escribi en el
mensaje news:Ojkkveb0FHA.3180@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
> Hi,
>
> Mark is telling you the truth. The 1221 event tells you how much free
> space
> there is inside the database.
>
> Leif
>
> "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER" skrev i en meddelelse
> news:%23nvM8pL0FHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Hi again, Mark,
>>
>> I think there is a misunderstanding, the event 1221 just says the
> freespace
>> there is after the defragmentation (so teh space the defragmentation
>> cleared) , not the total free space...
>>
>>
>> "Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
>> news:uf7vk1di415ir9r28vbovhn7oblb4m0eod@4ax.com...
>> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:08:56 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Thanks Mark,
>> >>
>> >>So, when speaking about the 16 gigabytes limit, this limit applies to
> the
>> >>edb file?
>> >
>> > The 16GB limit applies to each pair (EDB and STM) Each pair can total
>> > 16GB, so you do have 32GB of storage but can only have one private and
>> > one public store.
>> >
>> >>Yes, our Backup includes logically all the TSLogs, abd the public store
>> >>(that is quite small), but anyway how to know the real size of the
>> >>database?
>> >>the size that MS speaks about when taliking about the 16 gigabyte
>> >>limit?
>> >
>> > The 16GB is the limit of the cumulative file sizes (EDB + STM) If you
>> > look at the event log you will see event id 1221 which will tell you
>> > how much free space is inside the database (and you do the maths to
>> > see how much mail you have)
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
>> >>news:p90vk1lob3i9fdtjou6tgh3hl506v1h3af@4ax.com...
>> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:41:20 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I'l trying to determinate the size of the private store. I'd like to
>> >>>>know
>> >>>>if
>> >>>>the edb file size is the same than the size of the private store, or
>> >>>>there
>> >>>>is a different way of knowing its real size.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I'm saying this because our total exchange backup takes 12 gigabytes,
>> >>>>where
>> >>>>our edb file is 9 gigabytes big.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thanks!!!
>> >>>>
>> >>> And how big is the STM that is partnered with the EDB.
>> >>> Also, you talk about one EDB. If you just did a default backup of the
>> >>> box you will have the Private and the Public, that's another EDB
>> >>> altogether and another STM attached to that EDB.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tot up all four files and see what you get.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:27:57 +0200
author: NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER
Re: how to know the Size of the private store? (Exchange 2003 standard edition)
Hi,
Please elaborate (and read your last post again). Where it is we disagree -
the event tells us how much free space available inside the database after
an online defragmentation.
As I read Simon Butlers explanation he totally agrees.
Leif
"NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER" skrev i en meddelelse
news:up0GR0v0FHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
> Sorry to disagree:
>
> http://www.amset.info/exchange/event1221.asp
>
> Event ID 1221 and Database Free Space
> Author: Simon Butler MVP:Exchange
> Last Page Review: 25/09/2005
>
> Exchange Server
> Compatibility Information
>
> Exchange
> Server Version
> Compatibility 5.5 Yes
> 2000 Yes
> 2003 Yes
> A common posting on newsgroups and forums from new Exchange
> administrators is when they look the event logs on their Exchange server
and
> find this:
>
> Event Type: Information
> Event Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox Store
> Event Category: General
> Event ID: 1221
> Date: 01/01/2005
> Time: 00:04:16
> User: N/A
> Computer: SERVER
> Description: The database "First Storage Group\Mailbox Store
> (SERVER)" has 3.4 megabytes of free space after online defragmentation has
> terminated.
>
> They then post a message about their Exchange server running out of
> space, and how to increase it.
> There are a number of issues here, which will be dealt with
> separately.
>
>
>
> What does this message mean?
>
> What it means is that Exchange has carried out some routine
> maintenance on the Exchange database. Any old data that is past the delete
> thresholds has been deleted from the database.
> The space it has left behind has then been consolidated, in to
"white
> space". The size of the database hasn't changed - there is just some space
> within the database.
> This "white space" will be used by Exchange first, before expanding
> the database any larger.
>
>
>
>
> "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" escribi en el
> mensaje news:Ojkkveb0FHA.3180@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Mark is telling you the truth. The 1221 event tells you how much free
> > space
> > there is inside the database.
> >
> > Leif
> >
> > "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER" skrev i en meddelelse
> > news:%23nvM8pL0FHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> Hi again, Mark,
> >>
> >> I think there is a misunderstanding, the event 1221 just says the
> > freespace
> >> there is after the defragmentation (so teh space the defragmentation
> >> cleared) , not the total free space...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
> >> news:uf7vk1di415ir9r28vbovhn7oblb4m0eod@4ax.com...
> >> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:08:56 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Thanks Mark,
> >> >>
> >> >>So, when speaking about the 16 gigabytes limit, this limit applies to
> > the
> >> >>edb file?
> >> >
> >> > The 16GB limit applies to each pair (EDB and STM) Each pair can total
> >> > 16GB, so you do have 32GB of storage but can only have one private
and
> >> > one public store.
> >> >
> >> >>Yes, our Backup includes logically all the TSLogs, abd the public
store
> >> >>(that is quite small), but anyway how to know the real size of the
> >> >>database?
> >> >>the size that MS speaks about when taliking about the 16 gigabyte
> >> >>limit?
> >> >
> >> > The 16GB is the limit of the cumulative file sizes (EDB + STM) If you
> >> > look at the event log you will see event id 1221 which will tell you
> >> > how much free space is inside the database (and you do the maths to
> >> > see how much mail you have)
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>"Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
> >> >>news:p90vk1lob3i9fdtjou6tgh3hl506v1h3af@4ax.com...
> >> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:41:20 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Hi,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I'l trying to determinate the size of the private store. I'd like
to
> >> >>>>know
> >> >>>>if
> >> >>>>the edb file size is the same than the size of the private store,
or
> >> >>>>there
> >> >>>>is a different way of knowing its real size.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I'm saying this because our total exchange backup takes 12
gigabytes,
> >> >>>>where
> >> >>>>our edb file is 9 gigabytes big.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Thanks!!!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> And how big is the STM that is partnered with the EDB.
> >> >>> Also, you talk about one EDB. If you just did a default backup of
the
> >> >>> box you will have the Private and the Public, that's another EDB
> >> >>> altogether and another STM attached to that EDB.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Tot up all four files and see what you get.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:53:06 +0200
author: Leif Pedersen [MVP]
Re: how to know the Size of the private store? (Exchange 2003 standard edition)
ops, yes, its true, I'm sorry!!!!
It said how much space INSIDE teh DDBB there was.
You both are right!!
"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" escribi en el
mensaje news:u%23zkAO10FHA.3924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Please elaborate (and read your last post again). Where it is we
> disagree -
> the event tells us how much free space available inside the database after
> an online defragmentation.
>
> As I read Simon Butlers explanation he totally agrees.
>
> Leif
>
>
> "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER" skrev i en meddelelse
> news:up0GR0v0FHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Sorry to disagree:
>>
>> http://www.amset.info/exchange/event1221.asp
>>
>> Event ID 1221 and Database Free Space
>> Author: Simon Butler MVP:Exchange
>> Last Page Review: 25/09/2005
>>
>> Exchange Server
>> Compatibility Information
>>
>> Exchange
>> Server Version
>> Compatibility 5.5 Yes
>> 2000 Yes
>> 2003 Yes
>> A common posting on newsgroups and forums from new Exchange
>> administrators is when they look the event logs on their Exchange server
> and
>> find this:
>>
>> Event Type: Information
>> Event Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox Store
>> Event Category: General
>> Event ID: 1221
>> Date: 01/01/2005
>> Time: 00:04:16
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: SERVER
>> Description: The database "First Storage Group\Mailbox Store
>> (SERVER)" has 3.4 megabytes of free space after online defragmentation
>> has
>> terminated.
>>
>> They then post a message about their Exchange server running out of
>> space, and how to increase it.
>> There are a number of issues here, which will be dealt with
>> separately.
>>
>>
>>
>> What does this message mean?
>>
>> What it means is that Exchange has carried out some routine
>> maintenance on the Exchange database. Any old data that is past the
>> delete
>> thresholds has been deleted from the database.
>> The space it has left behind has then been consolidated, in to
> "white
>> space". The size of the database hasn't changed - there is just some
>> space
>> within the database.
>> This "white space" will be used by Exchange first, before expanding
>> the database any larger.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" escribi en el
>> mensaje news:Ojkkveb0FHA.3180@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Mark is telling you the truth. The 1221 event tells you how much free
>> > space
>> > there is inside the database.
>> >
>> > Leif
>> >
>> > "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER" skrev i en
>> > meddelelse
>> > news:%23nvM8pL0FHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >>
>> >> Hi again, Mark,
>> >>
>> >> I think there is a misunderstanding, the event 1221 just says the
>> > freespace
>> >> there is after the defragmentation (so teh space the defragmentation
>> >> cleared) , not the total free space...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
>> >> news:uf7vk1di415ir9r28vbovhn7oblb4m0eod@4ax.com...
>> >> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:08:56 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>Thanks Mark,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>So, when speaking about the 16 gigabytes limit, this limit applies
>> >> >>to
>> > the
>> >> >>edb file?
>> >> >
>> >> > The 16GB limit applies to each pair (EDB and STM) Each pair can
>> >> > total
>> >> > 16GB, so you do have 32GB of storage but can only have one private
> and
>> >> > one public store.
>> >> >
>> >> >>Yes, our Backup includes logically all the TSLogs, abd the public
> store
>> >> >>(that is quite small), but anyway how to know the real size of the
>> >> >>database?
>> >> >>the size that MS speaks about when taliking about the 16 gigabyte
>> >> >>limit?
>> >> >
>> >> > The 16GB is the limit of the cumulative file sizes (EDB + STM) If
>> >> > you
>> >> > look at the event log you will see event id 1221 which will tell you
>> >> > how much free space is inside the database (and you do the maths to
>> >> > see how much mail you have)
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"Mark Arnold [MVP]" escribi en el mensaje
>> >> >>news:p90vk1lob3i9fdtjou6tgh3hl506v1h3af@4ax.com...
>> >> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:41:20 +0200, "NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER"
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>Hi,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>I'l trying to determinate the size of the private store. I'd like
> to
>> >> >>>>know
>> >> >>>>if
>> >> >>>>the edb file size is the same than the size of the private store,
> or
>> >> >>>>there
>> >> >>>>is a different way of knowing its real size.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>I'm saying this because our total exchange backup takes 12
> gigabytes,
>> >> >>>>where
>> >> >>>>our edb file is 9 gigabytes big.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Thanks!!!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> And how big is the STM that is partnered with the EDB.
>> >> >>> Also, you talk about one EDB. If you just did a default backup of
> the
>> >> >>> box you will have the Private and the Public, that's another EDB
>> >> >>> altogether and another STM attached to that EDB.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Tot up all four files and see what you get.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:26:05 +0200
author: NO_MSC_NO_MSCP_NO_MSENGINEER
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