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Re: Move Exch. 2000 Ent. to New Hardware
So I have a dumb question: Are the mailboxes part of the .edb file that is
stored on my Storage Area Network OR are they stored on the Exchange server
itself? If they are stored in the .edb file and, thus, on the SAN, why would
I have to move the mailboxes? I have moved mailboxes from one info. store to
another (one drive on SAN to a different drive), and this takes a very long
time. If I have to use AD and "Exchange Tasks" to move the mailbox from 1
server with same info. store name to a new server with the same info. store
name (and info. stores are not moving at all because they are on the SAN),
will it still take as long to move? Thanks...
"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would still recommend using the move server method as described in the
> previous post.
> (It is not that easy to copy mail databases from one server to another and
> mount these databases on the new server - much safer to use the move server
> method)
> This would include moving mailboxes from one server to another using
> exchange tasks.
>
> Leif
>
> "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> news:528382EF-E24D-4C7C-9694-3851C120A529@microsoft.com...
> > We have Exchange 2000 running on a server (not a DC) and want to install
> it
> > on a new server with a new name. The Information Stores are stored on a
> > storage area network and will stay there. Would you also recommend the
> > article below for me to follow? It mentions using AD to move the
> mailboxes.
> > Would I need to move any mailboxes since my info. stores are on a SAN? If
> > so, how would I do it? I've moved mailboxes between stores using the
> > "Exchange Tasks" in AD. I hope I wouldn't have to move them one by
> one....
> > Please unconfuse me. Thanks!
> >
> > "Bob" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > We need to move Exchange 2000 Enterprise, in Native Mode, running
> > > on a Windows 2000 Domain Controller (domain is in Mixed Mode) to new
> > > hardware. The new server is running Windows 2003 Standard Svr., also a
> DC in
> > > the same domain.
> > >
> > > What is the recommended migration/move method? Note that we do run
> Veritas
> > > Backup Exec. w/Exch. Agent if backup/restore is recommended.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any insight you may have!
>
>
>
date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:29:34 -0700
author: Kathy L.
Re: Move Exch. 2000 Ent. to New Hardware
Hi,
That is not a dumb question - in fact a very good one.
Mailboxes are kept in the .edb and .stm files.
If you were to keep the same server name this should do it:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;297289
You indicated that you would like to have a new servername. As the location
of the user mailboxes are stamped on each user you would have to remove
exchange attributes from each user and then reattach the mailboxes located
on the new server to these users again (if you succeded in mounting the
databases). The chance for disaster is just too great in my opinion.
You would have to perform almost everything during non-working hours whereas
in the move server scenario you can install and test everything and then
when you are ready to move the mailboxes perform only this operation
offhours.
Leif
"Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
news:267FD828-FA20-46C8-B517-1646BE477376@microsoft.com...
> So I have a dumb question: Are the mailboxes part of the .edb file that
is
> stored on my Storage Area Network OR are they stored on the Exchange
server
> itself? If they are stored in the .edb file and, thus, on the SAN, why
would
> I have to move the mailboxes? I have moved mailboxes from one info. store
to
> another (one drive on SAN to a different drive), and this takes a very
long
> time. If I have to use AD and "Exchange Tasks" to move the mailbox from 1
> server with same info. store name to a new server with the same info.
store
> name (and info. stores are not moving at all because they are on the SAN),
> will it still take as long to move? Thanks...
>
> "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would still recommend using the move server method as described in the
> > previous post.
> > (It is not that easy to copy mail databases from one server to another
and
> > mount these databases on the new server - much safer to use the move
server
> > method)
> > This would include moving mailboxes from one server to another using
> > exchange tasks.
> >
> > Leif
> >
> > "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> > news:528382EF-E24D-4C7C-9694-3851C120A529@microsoft.com...
> > > We have Exchange 2000 running on a server (not a DC) and want to
install
> > it
> > > on a new server with a new name. The Information Stores are stored on
a
> > > storage area network and will stay there. Would you also recommend
the
> > > article below for me to follow? It mentions using AD to move the
> > mailboxes.
> > > Would I need to move any mailboxes since my info. stores are on a SAN?
If
> > > so, how would I do it? I've moved mailboxes between stores using the
> > > "Exchange Tasks" in AD. I hope I wouldn't have to move them one by
> > one....
> > > Please unconfuse me. Thanks!
> > >
> > > "Bob" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi:
> > > >
> > > > We need to move Exchange 2000 Enterprise, in Native Mode, running
> > > > on a Windows 2000 Domain Controller (domain is in Mixed Mode) to new
> > > > hardware. The new server is running Windows 2003 Standard Svr.,
also a
> > DC in
> > > > the same domain.
> > > >
> > > > What is the recommended migration/move method? Note that we do run
> > Veritas
> > > > Backup Exec. w/Exch. Agent if backup/restore is recommended.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any insight you may have!
> >
> >
> >
date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:26:22 +0200
author: Leif Pedersen [MVP]
Re: Move Exch. 2000 Ent. to New Hardware
Thanks!
"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> That is not a dumb question - in fact a very good one.
>
> Mailboxes are kept in the .edb and .stm files.
>
> If you were to keep the same server name this should do it:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;297289
>
> You indicated that you would like to have a new servername. As the location
> of the user mailboxes are stamped on each user you would have to remove
> exchange attributes from each user and then reattach the mailboxes located
> on the new server to these users again (if you succeded in mounting the
> databases). The chance for disaster is just too great in my opinion.
>
> You would have to perform almost everything during non-working hours whereas
> in the move server scenario you can install and test everything and then
> when you are ready to move the mailboxes perform only this operation
> offhours.
>
> Leif
>
> "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> news:267FD828-FA20-46C8-B517-1646BE477376@microsoft.com...
> > So I have a dumb question: Are the mailboxes part of the .edb file that
> is
> > stored on my Storage Area Network OR are they stored on the Exchange
> server
> > itself? If they are stored in the .edb file and, thus, on the SAN, why
> would
> > I have to move the mailboxes? I have moved mailboxes from one info. store
> to
> > another (one drive on SAN to a different drive), and this takes a very
> long
> > time. If I have to use AD and "Exchange Tasks" to move the mailbox from 1
> > server with same info. store name to a new server with the same info.
> store
> > name (and info. stores are not moving at all because they are on the SAN),
> > will it still take as long to move? Thanks...
> >
> > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would still recommend using the move server method as described in the
> > > previous post.
> > > (It is not that easy to copy mail databases from one server to another
> and
> > > mount these databases on the new server - much safer to use the move
> server
> > > method)
> > > This would include moving mailboxes from one server to another using
> > > exchange tasks.
> > >
> > > Leif
> > >
> > > "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> > > news:528382EF-E24D-4C7C-9694-3851C120A529@microsoft.com...
> > > > We have Exchange 2000 running on a server (not a DC) and want to
> install
> > > it
> > > > on a new server with a new name. The Information Stores are stored on
> a
> > > > storage area network and will stay there. Would you also recommend
> the
> > > > article below for me to follow? It mentions using AD to move the
> > > mailboxes.
> > > > Would I need to move any mailboxes since my info. stores are on a SAN?
> If
> > > > so, how would I do it? I've moved mailboxes between stores using the
> > > > "Exchange Tasks" in AD. I hope I wouldn't have to move them one by
> > > one....
> > > > Please unconfuse me. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > "Bob" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi:
> > > > >
> > > > > We need to move Exchange 2000 Enterprise, in Native Mode, running
> > > > > on a Windows 2000 Domain Controller (domain is in Mixed Mode) to new
> > > > > hardware. The new server is running Windows 2003 Standard Svr.,
> also a
> > > DC in
> > > > > the same domain.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the recommended migration/move method? Note that we do run
> > > Veritas
> > > > > Backup Exec. w/Exch. Agent if backup/restore is recommended.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any insight you may have!
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:20:03 -0700
author: Kathy L.
Re: Move Exch. 2000 Ent. to New Hardware
I am following the "Move Mailboxes" procedure. I installed Exchange on my
new server. I have a couple more questions:
1. Do you have to point the Private Info. Stores to the Public Store on the
new server BEFORE you replicate the Public Folders from the old server to the
new server? The reason I'm asking if because of 2. below.
2. After going back and forth a few times, this is the current state of my
public store and replication: The Private Info. Stores are pointing to the
public store of the OLD Exchange server. I have all of the public folders
set to replicate to the new Exchange server. When you look at the public
folders on the new server, they are there, but empty. I thought that the
folders and their contents would appear in both public info. stores? Am I
going to have a problem if I later change the Public Store to the new server?
In other words, will the folders be empty? If so, should I turn off
replication now, then point to the new public store, and then do the
replication again?
3. Is there a way to replicate all of the Public folders at once instead of
having to do them one by one because I have lots of them and I'm getting
carpal tunnel!
4. When you change the SRS to point to the new server, what does that do?
In other words, can I do this and then gradually move all of my mailboxes?
Or will the users who still have their mailbox on the old server NOT be able
to access their mailbox? (I realize that they can't access their mailbox
while I'm moving it, but can they access it during the day before I move it
the next weekend?)
5. If the answer to 4. is that I can change SRS, and then gradually move
the mailboxes, will they have a problem receiving external e-mail? In other
words, once I change my MX record to point external mail to my new e-mail
server, will users who still have mailboxes on the old server be able to
receive external e-mail?
Sorry for all of the questions, but I'm still a little confused, and I don't
want any unnecessary downtime for my users. Thanks!
"Kathy L." wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > That is not a dumb question - in fact a very good one.
> >
> > Mailboxes are kept in the .edb and .stm files.
> >
> > If you were to keep the same server name this should do it:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;297289
> >
> > You indicated that you would like to have a new servername. As the location
> > of the user mailboxes are stamped on each user you would have to remove
> > exchange attributes from each user and then reattach the mailboxes located
> > on the new server to these users again (if you succeded in mounting the
> > databases). The chance for disaster is just too great in my opinion.
> >
> > You would have to perform almost everything during non-working hours whereas
> > in the move server scenario you can install and test everything and then
> > when you are ready to move the mailboxes perform only this operation
> > offhours.
> >
> > Leif
> >
> > "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> > news:267FD828-FA20-46C8-B517-1646BE477376@microsoft.com...
> > > So I have a dumb question: Are the mailboxes part of the .edb file that
> > is
> > > stored on my Storage Area Network OR are they stored on the Exchange
> > server
> > > itself? If they are stored in the .edb file and, thus, on the SAN, why
> > would
> > > I have to move the mailboxes? I have moved mailboxes from one info. store
> > to
> > > another (one drive on SAN to a different drive), and this takes a very
> > long
> > > time. If I have to use AD and "Exchange Tasks" to move the mailbox from 1
> > > server with same info. store name to a new server with the same info.
> > store
> > > name (and info. stores are not moving at all because they are on the SAN),
> > > will it still take as long to move? Thanks...
> > >
> > > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I would still recommend using the move server method as described in the
> > > > previous post.
> > > > (It is not that easy to copy mail databases from one server to another
> > and
> > > > mount these databases on the new server - much safer to use the move
> > server
> > > > method)
> > > > This would include moving mailboxes from one server to another using
> > > > exchange tasks.
> > > >
> > > > Leif
> > > >
> > > > "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> > > > news:528382EF-E24D-4C7C-9694-3851C120A529@microsoft.com...
> > > > > We have Exchange 2000 running on a server (not a DC) and want to
> > install
> > > > it
> > > > > on a new server with a new name. The Information Stores are stored on
> > a
> > > > > storage area network and will stay there. Would you also recommend
> > the
> > > > > article below for me to follow? It mentions using AD to move the
> > > > mailboxes.
> > > > > Would I need to move any mailboxes since my info. stores are on a SAN?
> > If
> > > > > so, how would I do it? I've moved mailboxes between stores using the
> > > > > "Exchange Tasks" in AD. I hope I wouldn't have to move them one by
> > > > one....
> > > > > Please unconfuse me. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We need to move Exchange 2000 Enterprise, in Native Mode, running
> > > > > > on a Windows 2000 Domain Controller (domain is in Mixed Mode) to new
> > > > > > hardware. The new server is running Windows 2003 Standard Svr.,
> > also a
> > > > DC in
> > > > > > the same domain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is the recommended migration/move method? Note that we do run
> > > > Veritas
> > > > > > Backup Exec. w/Exch. Agent if backup/restore is recommended.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for any insight you may have!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:11:01 -0700
author: Kathy L.
Re: Move Exch. 2000 Ent. to New Hardware
Hi,
This should help you troubleshoot the PF replication problems.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;842273
Other answers inline.
Leif
"Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
news:FDF33529-2F50-44D9-9C1B-9E5DFEAEE00E@microsoft.com...
> I am following the "Move Mailboxes" procedure. I installed Exchange on my
> new server. I have a couple more questions:
>
> 1. Do you have to point the Private Info. Stores to the Public Store on
the
> new server BEFORE you replicate the Public Folders from the old server to
the
> new server? The reason I'm asking if because of 2. below.
You can do this as one of the last steps.
>
> 2. After going back and forth a few times, this is the current state of
my
> public store and replication: The Private Info. Stores are pointing to
the
> public store of the OLD Exchange server. I have all of the public folders
> set to replicate to the new Exchange server. When you look at the public
> folders on the new server, they are there, but empty. I thought that the
> folders and their contents would appear in both public info. stores? Am I
> going to have a problem if I later change the Public Store to the new
server?
> In other words, will the folders be empty? If so, should I turn off
> replication now, then point to the new public store, and then do the
> replication again?
When you configure replication of public folders the content should be the
same on both servers. You will need to troubleshoot the replication problem
to get the servers in sync.
>
> 3. Is there a way to replicate all of the Public folders at once instead
of
> having to do them one by one because I have lots of them and I'm getting
> carpal tunnel!
You will have to add the replica on each top level folder and then you can
rightclick this folder, select all tasks, propagate settings and here select
the replicas.
>
> 4. When you change the SRS to point to the new server, what does that do?
> In other words, can I do this and then gradually move all of my mailboxes?
> Or will the users who still have their mailbox on the old server NOT be
able
> to access their mailbox? (I realize that they can't access their mailbox
> while I'm moving it, but can they access it during the day before I move
it
> the next weekend?)
Do you need the SRS (are there any 5.5 servers left in the organization). If
not just remove this - see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272314
If you do need this service it has no bearing on your exchange 200x
mailboxes so these can be moved gradually.
>
> 5. If the answer to 4. is that I can change SRS, and then gradually move
> the mailboxes, will they have a problem receiving external e-mail? In
other
> words, once I change my MX record to point external mail to my new e-mail
> server, will users who still have mailboxes on the old server be able to
> receive external e-mail?
All users should still be able to receive external emails. The location of
an user mailbox is stamped on the user object in AD and from here the
exchange servers will know how to route these emails.
>
> Sorry for all of the questions, but I'm still a little confused, and I
don't
> want any unnecessary downtime for my users. Thanks!
>
> "Kathy L." wrote:
>
> > Thanks!
> >
> > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > That is not a dumb question - in fact a very good one.
> > >
> > > Mailboxes are kept in the .edb and .stm files.
> > >
> > > If you were to keep the same server name this should do it:
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;297289
> > >
> > > You indicated that you would like to have a new servername. As the
location
> > > of the user mailboxes are stamped on each user you would have to
remove
> > > exchange attributes from each user and then reattach the mailboxes
located
> > > on the new server to these users again (if you succeded in mounting
the
> > > databases). The chance for disaster is just too great in my opinion.
> > >
> > > You would have to perform almost everything during non-working hours
whereas
> > > in the move server scenario you can install and test everything and
then
> > > when you are ready to move the mailboxes perform only this operation
> > > offhours.
> > >
> > > Leif
> > >
> > > "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> > > news:267FD828-FA20-46C8-B517-1646BE477376@microsoft.com...
> > > > So I have a dumb question: Are the mailboxes part of the .edb file
that
> > > is
> > > > stored on my Storage Area Network OR are they stored on the Exchange
> > > server
> > > > itself? If they are stored in the .edb file and, thus, on the SAN,
why
> > > would
> > > > I have to move the mailboxes? I have moved mailboxes from one info.
store
> > > to
> > > > another (one drive on SAN to a different drive), and this takes a
very
> > > long
> > > > time. If I have to use AD and "Exchange Tasks" to move the mailbox
from 1
> > > > server with same info. store name to a new server with the same
info.
> > > store
> > > > name (and info. stores are not moving at all because they are on the
SAN),
> > > > will it still take as long to move? Thanks...
> > > >
> > > > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would still recommend using the move server method as described
in the
> > > > > previous post.
> > > > > (It is not that easy to copy mail databases from one server to
another
> > > and
> > > > > mount these databases on the new server - much safer to use the
move
> > > server
> > > > > method)
> > > > > This would include moving mailboxes from one server to another
using
> > > > > exchange tasks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Leif
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kathy L." skrev i en
meddelelse
> > > > > news:528382EF-E24D-4C7C-9694-3851C120A529@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > We have Exchange 2000 running on a server (not a DC) and want to
> > > install
> > > > > it
> > > > > > on a new server with a new name. The Information Stores are
stored on
> > > a
> > > > > > storage area network and will stay there. Would you also
recommend
> > > the
> > > > > > article below for me to follow? It mentions using AD to move
the
> > > > > mailboxes.
> > > > > > Would I need to move any mailboxes since my info. stores are on
a SAN?
> > > If
> > > > > > so, how would I do it? I've moved mailboxes between stores
using the
> > > > > > "Exchange Tasks" in AD. I hope I wouldn't have to move them one
by
> > > > > one....
> > > > > > Please unconfuse me. Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bob" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We need to move Exchange 2000 Enterprise, in Native Mode,
running
> > > > > > > on a Windows 2000 Domain Controller (domain is in Mixed Mode)
to new
> > > > > > > hardware. The new server is running Windows 2003 Standard
Svr.,
> > > also a
> > > > > DC in
> > > > > > > the same domain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the recommended migration/move method? Note that we
do run
> > > > > Veritas
> > > > > > > Backup Exec. w/Exch. Agent if backup/restore is recommended.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for any insight you may have!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:33:06 +0200
author: Leif Pedersen [MVP]
Re: Move Exch. 2000 Ent. to New Hardware
Sorry. I used the wrong acronymn in my 4th and 5th questions. I meant to
say "Recipient Update Service" instead of SRS. I have the SRS Service
Disabled already. I was wondering about the impact of changing the RUS to
the new server and moving mailboxes gradually over a few weeks. (See 4. and
5. below for my detailed questions.) Thanks again!
"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This should help you troubleshoot the PF replication problems.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;842273
>
> Other answers inline.
>
> Leif
>
>
>
> "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> news:FDF33529-2F50-44D9-9C1B-9E5DFEAEE00E@microsoft.com...
> > I am following the "Move Mailboxes" procedure. I installed Exchange on my
> > new server. I have a couple more questions:
> >
> > 1. Do you have to point the Private Info. Stores to the Public Store on
> the
> > new server BEFORE you replicate the Public Folders from the old server to
> the
> > new server? The reason I'm asking if because of 2. below.
>
> You can do this as one of the last steps.
>
> >
> > 2. After going back and forth a few times, this is the current state of
> my
> > public store and replication: The Private Info. Stores are pointing to
> the
> > public store of the OLD Exchange server. I have all of the public folders
> > set to replicate to the new Exchange server. When you look at the public
> > folders on the new server, they are there, but empty. I thought that the
> > folders and their contents would appear in both public info. stores? Am I
> > going to have a problem if I later change the Public Store to the new
> server?
> > In other words, will the folders be empty? If so, should I turn off
> > replication now, then point to the new public store, and then do the
> > replication again?
>
> When you configure replication of public folders the content should be the
> same on both servers. You will need to troubleshoot the replication problem
> to get the servers in sync.
>
> >
> > 3. Is there a way to replicate all of the Public folders at once instead
> of
> > having to do them one by one because I have lots of them and I'm getting
> > carpal tunnel!
>
> You will have to add the replica on each top level folder and then you can
> rightclick this folder, select all tasks, propagate settings and here select
> the replicas.
>
> >
> > 4. When you change the SRS to point to the new server, what does that do?
> > In other words, can I do this and then gradually move all of my mailboxes?
> > Or will the users who still have their mailbox on the old server NOT be
> able
> > to access their mailbox? (I realize that they can't access their mailbox
> > while I'm moving it, but can they access it during the day before I move
> it
> > the next weekend?)
>
> Do you need the SRS (are there any 5.5 servers left in the organization). If
> not just remove this - see
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272314
>
> If you do need this service it has no bearing on your exchange 200x
> mailboxes so these can be moved gradually.
>
> >
> > 5. If the answer to 4. is that I can change SRS, and then gradually move
> > the mailboxes, will they have a problem receiving external e-mail? In
> other
> > words, once I change my MX record to point external mail to my new e-mail
> > server, will users who still have mailboxes on the old server be able to
> > receive external e-mail?
>
> All users should still be able to receive external emails. The location of
> an user mailbox is stamped on the user object in AD and from here the
> exchange servers will know how to route these emails.
>
> >
> > Sorry for all of the questions, but I'm still a little confused, and I
> don't
> > want any unnecessary downtime for my users. Thanks!
> >
> > "Kathy L." wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > That is not a dumb question - in fact a very good one.
> > > >
> > > > Mailboxes are kept in the .edb and .stm files.
> > > >
> > > > If you were to keep the same server name this should do it:
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;297289
> > > >
> > > > You indicated that you would like to have a new servername. As the
> location
> > > > of the user mailboxes are stamped on each user you would have to
> remove
> > > > exchange attributes from each user and then reattach the mailboxes
> located
> > > > on the new server to these users again (if you succeded in mounting
> the
> > > > databases). The chance for disaster is just too great in my opinion.
> > > >
> > > > You would have to perform almost everything during non-working hours
> whereas
> > > > in the move server scenario you can install and test everything and
> then
> > > > when you are ready to move the mailboxes perform only this operation
> > > > offhours.
> > > >
> > > > Leif
> > > >
> > > > "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> > > > news:267FD828-FA20-46C8-B517-1646BE477376@microsoft.com...
> > > > > So I have a dumb question: Are the mailboxes part of the .edb file
> that
> > > > is
> > > > > stored on my Storage Area Network OR are they stored on the Exchange
> > > > server
> > > > > itself? If they are stored in the .edb file and, thus, on the SAN,
> why
> > > > would
> > > > > I have to move the mailboxes? I have moved mailboxes from one info.
> store
> > > > to
> > > > > another (one drive on SAN to a different drive), and this takes a
> very
> > > > long
> > > > > time. If I have to use AD and "Exchange Tasks" to move the mailbox
> from 1
> > > > > server with same info. store name to a new server with the same
> info.
> > > > store
> > > > > name (and info. stores are not moving at all because they are on the
> SAN),
> > > > > will it still take as long to move? Thanks...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would still recommend using the move server method as described
> in the
> > > > > > previous post.
> > > > > > (It is not that easy to copy mail databases from one server to
> another
> > > > and
> > > > > > mount these databases on the new server - much safer to use the
> move
> > > > server
> > > > > > method)
> > > > > > This would include moving mailboxes from one server to another
> using
> > > > > > exchange tasks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leif
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kathy L." skrev i en
> meddelelse
> > > > > > news:528382EF-E24D-4C7C-9694-3851C120A529@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > We have Exchange 2000 running on a server (not a DC) and want to
> > > > install
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > on a new server with a new name. The Information Stores are
> stored on
> > > > a
> > > > > > > storage area network and will stay there. Would you also
> recommend
> > > > the
> > > > > > > article below for me to follow? It mentions using AD to move
> the
> > > > > > mailboxes.
> > > > > > > Would I need to move any mailboxes since my info. stores are on
> a SAN?
> > > > If
> > > > > > > so, how would I do it? I've moved mailboxes between stores
> using the
> > > > > > > "Exchange Tasks" in AD. I hope I wouldn't have to move them one
> by
> > > > > > one....
> > > > > > > Please unconfuse me. Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Bob" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We need to move Exchange 2000 Enterprise, in Native Mode,
> running
> > > > > > > > on a Windows 2000 Domain Controller (domain is in Mixed Mode)
> to new
> > > > > > > > hardware. The new server is running Windows 2003 Standard
> Svr.,
> > > > also a
> > > > > > DC in
> > > > > > > > the same domain.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What is the recommended migration/move method? Note that we
> do run
> > > > > > Veritas
> > > > > > > > Backup Exec. w/Exch. Agent if backup/restore is recommended.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for any insight you may have!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
>
date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:43:02 -0700
author: Kathy L.
Re: Move Exch. 2000 Ent. to New Hardware
Hi,
There should be no impact in moving the RUS.
Leif
"Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
news:8FC497C3-9CE9-42BB-8C50-7750241EE627@microsoft.com...
> Sorry. I used the wrong acronymn in my 4th and 5th questions. I meant to
> say "Recipient Update Service" instead of SRS. I have the SRS Service
> Disabled already. I was wondering about the impact of changing the RUS to
> the new server and moving mailboxes gradually over a few weeks. (See 4.
and
> 5. below for my detailed questions.) Thanks again!
>
> "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > This should help you troubleshoot the PF replication problems.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;842273
> >
> > Other answers inline.
> >
> > Leif
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> > news:FDF33529-2F50-44D9-9C1B-9E5DFEAEE00E@microsoft.com...
> > > I am following the "Move Mailboxes" procedure. I installed Exchange
on my
> > > new server. I have a couple more questions:
> > >
> > > 1. Do you have to point the Private Info. Stores to the Public Store
on
> > the
> > > new server BEFORE you replicate the Public Folders from the old server
to
> > the
> > > new server? The reason I'm asking if because of 2. below.
> >
> > You can do this as one of the last steps.
> >
> > >
> > > 2. After going back and forth a few times, this is the current state
of
> > my
> > > public store and replication: The Private Info. Stores are pointing
to
> > the
> > > public store of the OLD Exchange server. I have all of the public
folders
> > > set to replicate to the new Exchange server. When you look at the
public
> > > folders on the new server, they are there, but empty. I thought that
the
> > > folders and their contents would appear in both public info. stores?
Am I
> > > going to have a problem if I later change the Public Store to the new
> > server?
> > > In other words, will the folders be empty? If so, should I turn off
> > > replication now, then point to the new public store, and then do the
> > > replication again?
> >
> > When you configure replication of public folders the content should be
the
> > same on both servers. You will need to troubleshoot the replication
problem
> > to get the servers in sync.
> >
> > >
> > > 3. Is there a way to replicate all of the Public folders at once
instead
> > of
> > > having to do them one by one because I have lots of them and I'm
getting
> > > carpal tunnel!
> >
> > You will have to add the replica on each top level folder and then you
can
> > rightclick this folder, select all tasks, propagate settings and here
select
> > the replicas.
> >
> > >
> > > 4. When you change the SRS to point to the new server, what does that
do?
> > > In other words, can I do this and then gradually move all of my
mailboxes?
> > > Or will the users who still have their mailbox on the old server NOT
be
> > able
> > > to access their mailbox? (I realize that they can't access their
mailbox
> > > while I'm moving it, but can they access it during the day before I
move
> > it
> > > the next weekend?)
> >
> > Do you need the SRS (are there any 5.5 servers left in the
organization). If
> > not just remove this - see
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272314
> >
> > If you do need this service it has no bearing on your exchange 200x
> > mailboxes so these can be moved gradually.
> >
> > >
> > > 5. If the answer to 4. is that I can change SRS, and then gradually
move
> > > the mailboxes, will they have a problem receiving external e-mail? In
> > other
> > > words, once I change my MX record to point external mail to my new
e-mail
> > > server, will users who still have mailboxes on the old server be able
to
> > > receive external e-mail?
> >
> > All users should still be able to receive external emails. The location
of
> > an user mailbox is stamped on the user object in AD and from here the
> > exchange servers will know how to route these emails.
> >
> > >
> > > Sorry for all of the questions, but I'm still a little confused, and I
> > don't
> > > want any unnecessary downtime for my users. Thanks!
> > >
> > > "Kathy L." wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > That is not a dumb question - in fact a very good one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mailboxes are kept in the .edb and .stm files.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you were to keep the same server name this should do it:
> > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;297289
> > > > >
> > > > > You indicated that you would like to have a new servername. As the
> > location
> > > > > of the user mailboxes are stamped on each user you would have to
> > remove
> > > > > exchange attributes from each user and then reattach the mailboxes
> > located
> > > > > on the new server to these users again (if you succeded in
mounting
> > the
> > > > > databases). The chance for disaster is just too great in my
opinion.
> > > > >
> > > > > You would have to perform almost everything during non-working
hours
> > whereas
> > > > > in the move server scenario you can install and test everything
and
> > then
> > > > > when you are ready to move the mailboxes perform only this
operation
> > > > > offhours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Leif
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kathy L." skrev i en
meddelelse
> > > > > news:267FD828-FA20-46C8-B517-1646BE477376@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > So I have a dumb question: Are the mailboxes part of the .edb
file
> > that
> > > > > is
> > > > > > stored on my Storage Area Network OR are they stored on the
Exchange
> > > > > server
> > > > > > itself? If they are stored in the .edb file and, thus, on the
SAN,
> > why
> > > > > would
> > > > > > I have to move the mailboxes? I have moved mailboxes from one
info.
> > store
> > > > > to
> > > > > > another (one drive on SAN to a different drive), and this takes
a
> > very
> > > > > long
> > > > > > time. If I have to use AD and "Exchange Tasks" to move the
mailbox
> > from 1
> > > > > > server with same info. store name to a new server with the same
> > info.
> > > > > store
> > > > > > name (and info. stores are not moving at all because they are on
the
> > SAN),
> > > > > > will it still take as long to move? Thanks...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would still recommend using the move server method as
described
> > in the
> > > > > > > previous post.
> > > > > > > (It is not that easy to copy mail databases from one server to
> > another
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > mount these databases on the new server - much safer to use
the
> > move
> > > > > server
> > > > > > > method)
> > > > > > > This would include moving mailboxes from one server to another
> > using
> > > > > > > exchange tasks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Leif
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kathy L." skrev i en
> > meddelelse
> > > > > > > news:528382EF-E24D-4C7C-9694-3851C120A529@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > We have Exchange 2000 running on a server (not a DC) and
want to
> > > > > install
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > on a new server with a new name. The Information Stores are
> > stored on
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > storage area network and will stay there. Would you also
> > recommend
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > article below for me to follow? It mentions using AD to
move
> > the
> > > > > > > mailboxes.
> > > > > > > > Would I need to move any mailboxes since my info. stores are
on
> > a SAN?
> > > > > If
> > > > > > > > so, how would I do it? I've moved mailboxes between stores
> > using the
> > > > > > > > "Exchange Tasks" in AD. I hope I wouldn't have to move them
one
> > by
> > > > > > > one....
> > > > > > > > Please unconfuse me. Thanks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Bob" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We need to move Exchange 2000 Enterprise, in Native Mode,
> > running
> > > > > > > > > on a Windows 2000 Domain Controller (domain is in Mixed
Mode)
> > to new
> > > > > > > > > hardware. The new server is running Windows 2003 Standard
> > Svr.,
> > > > > also a
> > > > > > > DC in
> > > > > > > > > the same domain.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What is the recommended migration/move method? Note that
we
> > do run
> > > > > > > Veritas
> > > > > > > > > Backup Exec. w/Exch. Agent if backup/restore is
recommended.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for any insight you may have!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >
> >
date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:46:31 +0200
author: Leif Pedersen [MVP]
Re: Move Exch. 2000 Ent. to New Hardware
Great. I'll give it all a whirl!
"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There should be no impact in moving the RUS.
>
> Leif
>
> "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> news:8FC497C3-9CE9-42BB-8C50-7750241EE627@microsoft.com...
> > Sorry. I used the wrong acronymn in my 4th and 5th questions. I meant to
> > say "Recipient Update Service" instead of SRS. I have the SRS Service
> > Disabled already. I was wondering about the impact of changing the RUS to
> > the new server and moving mailboxes gradually over a few weeks. (See 4.
> and
> > 5. below for my detailed questions.) Thanks again!
> >
> > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This should help you troubleshoot the PF replication problems.
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;842273
> > >
> > > Other answers inline.
> > >
> > > Leif
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Kathy L." skrev i en meddelelse
> > > news:FDF33529-2F50-44D9-9C1B-9E5DFEAEE00E@microsoft.com...
> > > > I am following the "Move Mailboxes" procedure. I installed Exchange
> on my
> > > > new server. I have a couple more questions:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Do you have to point the Private Info. Stores to the Public Store
> on
> > > the
> > > > new server BEFORE you replicate the Public Folders from the old server
> to
> > > the
> > > > new server? The reason I'm asking if because of 2. below.
> > >
> > > You can do this as one of the last steps.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 2. After going back and forth a few times, this is the current state
> of
> > > my
> > > > public store and replication: The Private Info. Stores are pointing
> to
> > > the
> > > > public store of the OLD Exchange server. I have all of the public
> folders
> > > > set to replicate to the new Exchange server. When you look at the
> public
> > > > folders on the new server, they are there, but empty. I thought that
> the
> > > > folders and their contents would appear in both public info. stores?
> Am I
> > > > going to have a problem if I later change the Public Store to the new
> > > server?
> > > > In other words, will the folders be empty? If so, should I turn off
> > > > replication now, then point to the new public store, and then do the
> > > > replication again?
> > >
> > > When you configure replication of public folders the content should be
> the
> > > same on both servers. You will need to troubleshoot the replication
> problem
> > > to get the servers in sync.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 3. Is there a way to replicate all of the Public folders at once
> instead
> > > of
> > > > having to do them one by one because I have lots of them and I'm
> getting
> > > > carpal tunnel!
> > >
> > > You will have to add the replica on each top level folder and then you
> can
> > > rightclick this folder, select all tasks, propagate settings and here
> select
> > > the replicas.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 4. When you change the SRS to point to the new server, what does that
> do?
> > > > In other words, can I do this and then gradually move all of my
> mailboxes?
> > > > Or will the users who still have their mailbox on the old server NOT
> be
> > > able
> > > > to access their mailbox? (I realize that they can't access their
> mailbox
> > > > while I'm moving it, but can they access it during the day before I
> move
> > > it
> > > > the next weekend?)
> > >
> > > Do you need the SRS (are there any 5.5 servers left in the
> organization). If
> > > not just remove this - see
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272314
> > >
> > > If you do need this service it has no bearing on your exchange 200x
> > > mailboxes so these can be moved gradually.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 5. If the answer to 4. is that I can change SRS, and then gradually
> move
> > > > the mailboxes, will they have a problem receiving external e-mail? In
> > > other
> > > > words, once I change my MX record to point external mail to my new
> e-mail
> > > > server, will users who still have mailboxes on the old server be able
> to
> > > > receive external e-mail?
> > >
> > > All users should still be able to receive external emails. The location
> of
> > > an user mailbox is stamped on the user object in AD and from here the
> > > exchange servers will know how to route these emails.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for all of the questions, but I'm still a little confused, and I
> > > don't
> > > > want any unnecessary downtime for my users. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > "Kathy L." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is not a dumb question - in fact a very good one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mailboxes are kept in the .edb and .stm files.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you were to keep the same server name this should do it:
> > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;297289
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You indicated that you would like to have a new servername. As the
> > > location
> > > > > > of the user mailboxes are stamped on each user you would have to
> > > remove
> > > > > > exchange attributes from each user and then reattach the mailboxes
> > > located
> > > > > > on the new server to these users again (if you succeded in
> mounting
> > > the
> > > > > > databases). The chance for disaster is just too great in my
> opinion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You would have to perform almost everything during non-working
> hours
> > > whereas
> > > > > > in the move server scenario you can install and test everything
> and
> > > then
> > > > > > when you are ready to move the mailboxes perform only this
> operation
> > > > > > offhours.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leif
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kathy L." skrev i en
> meddelelse
> > > > > > news:267FD828-FA20-46C8-B517-1646BE477376@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > So I have a dumb question: Are the mailboxes part of the .edb
> file
> > > that
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > stored on my Storage Area Network OR are they stored on the
> Exchange
> > > > > > server
> > > > > > > itself? If they are stored in the .edb file and, thus, on the
> SAN,
> > > why
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > I have to move the mailboxes? I have moved mailboxes from one
> info.
> > > store
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > another (one drive on SAN to a different drive), and this takes
> a
> > > very
> > > > > > long
> > > > > > > time. If I have to use AD and "Exchange Tasks" to move the
> mailbox
> > > from 1
> > > > > > > server with same info. store name to a new server with the same
> > > info.
> > > > > > store
> > > > > > > name (and info. stores are not moving at all because they are on
> the
> > > SAN),
> > > > > > > will it still take as long to move? Thanks...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would still recommend using the move server method as
> described
> > > in the
> > > > > > > > previous post.
> > > > > > > > (It is not that easy to copy mail databases from one server to
> > > another
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > mount these databases on the new server - much safer to use
> the
> > > move
> > > > > > server
> > > > > > > > method)
> > > > > > > > This would include moving mailboxes from one server to another
> > > using
> > > > > > > > exchange tasks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Leif
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Kathy L." skrev i en
> > > meddelelse
> > > > > > > > news:528382EF-E24D-4C7C-9694-3851C120A529@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > We have Exchange 2000 running on a server (not a DC) and
> want to
> > > > > > install
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > on a new server with a new name. The Information Stores are
> > > stored on
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > storage area network and will stay there. Would you also
> > > recommend
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > article below for me to follow? It mentions using AD to
> move
> > > the
> > > > > > > > mailboxes.
> > > > > > > > > Would I need to move any mailboxes since my info. stores are
> on
> > > a SAN?
> > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > so, how would I do it? I've moved mailboxes between stores
> > > using the
> > > > > > > > > "Exchange Tasks" in AD. I hope I wouldn't have to move them
> one
> > > by
> > > > > > > > one....
> > > > > > > > > Please unconfuse me. Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Bob" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We need to move Exchange 2000 Enterprise, in Native Mode,
> > > running
> > > > > > > > > > on a Windows 2000 Domain Controller (domain is in Mixed
> Mode)
> > > to new
> > > > > > > > > > hardware. The new server is running Windows 2003 Standard
> > > Svr.,
> > > > > > also a
> > > > > > > > DC in
> > > > > > > > > > the same domain.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What is the recommended migration/move method? Note that
> we
> > > do run
> > > > > > > > Veritas
> > > > > > > > > > Backup Exec. w/Exch. Agent if backup/restore is
> recommended.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any insight you may have!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:49:15 -0700
author: Kathy L.
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