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date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:56:27 -0800,    group: microsoft.public.exchange2000.information.store        back       


Public folders have disappeared from Public folders store ESM tree   
I am having a major problem with public folders.

Here is the story:
I was faced with the task of adding a new Exchange 2003 to Windows 2000 
Domain. Before the migration, we were running Exchange 2000 Server. Exchange 
2003 setup was OK until... the RAID controller failed which lead to lose of 
the entire information store. This meant I had to recreate a new information 
store. However, I forgot set the right permissions on 'mdbdata' folder so 
when I initiated Public folder rehoming from the old Exchange 2000 server, it 
effectively removed public folders view from ESM on Exchange 2000. But when I 
checked on ESM on the 2003 server, all the public folders were nowhere to be 
found. This of course means that users have no access to public folders.

I have tried everything I can to rescue this situation but to no avail. I’ve 
checked pub1.edb on Exchange 2000 and the size remains at over 600MB so I'm 
pretty sure that that it still contains all the public folders. So I guess 
the question is; how do I get ESM to pickup public folders on Exchange 2000 
again without having to reinstall or do anything that would have a 
detrimental effect on the email service? Remember, pub1.edb and pub1.stm are 
still intact on old server.

Please help!
date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:56:27 -0800   author:   Cytrax

Re: Public folders have disappeared from Public folders store ESM tree   
Hi Cytrax,

The best, fastest, and easiest thing you can do is to do a Point in Time 
Restore of the Public folder store on the Exchange 2000 server from a backup 
that was made before you removed the replicas from the Exchange 2000 server. 
To do this and get the public folders to replicate correctly you will need 
to do the following steps.

1) Stop the SMTP virtual server on the E2k server
2) Restore the Public folder store from back up (depending on your software 
this may require you to dismount your mailbox stores)
3) Once the restored log files are replayed mount the public folder store
4) Go into the ESM and modify the replicas so that they are now listed as 
being on the E2k and E2k3 servers
5) Modify the message priority on the Public folder a number of times (set 
to High apply, ok, propagate, set to low apply, ok, propagate) this is done 
to bump up the version information on the PF store.  Recommend doing it 
around 10 times.
6) Start the SMTP virtual server

This should cause replicas of the public folders to be added to the E2k3 
server.

Hope this Helps,
-- 
Matthew Byrd
Microsoft PSS

Run Microsoft Exchange Server Best Practices Analyzer Today
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/exbpa

When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.

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"Cytrax"  wrote in message 
news:31959FF9-7F2B-4A60-A208-17778F917077@microsoft.com...
>I am having a major problem with public folders.
>
> Here is the story:
> I was faced with the task of adding a new Exchange 2003 to Windows 2000
> Domain. Before the migration, we were running Exchange 2000 Server. 
> Exchange
> 2003 setup was OK until... the RAID controller failed which lead to lose 
> of
> the entire information store. This meant I had to recreate a new 
> information
> store. However, I forgot set the right permissions on 'mdbdata' folder so
> when I initiated Public folder rehoming from the old Exchange 2000 server, 
> it
> effectively removed public folders view from ESM on Exchange 2000. But 
> when I
> checked on ESM on the 2003 server, all the public folders were nowhere to 
> be
> found. This of course means that users have no access to public folders.
>
> I have tried everything I can to rescue this situation but to no avail. I've
> checked pub1.edb on Exchange 2000 and the size remains at over 600MB so 
> I'm
> pretty sure that that it still contains all the public folders. So I guess
> the question is; how do I get ESM to pickup public folders on Exchange 
> 2000
> again without having to reinstall or do anything that would have a
> detrimental effect on the email service? Remember, pub1.edb and pub1.stm 
> are
> still intact on old server.
>
> Please help!
>
date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:04:15 -0500   author:   Matthew Byrd [MSFT]

Re: Public folders have disappeared from Public folders store ESM   
Hi Matthew,

Thanks for your reply.

The main problem I'm having is that Public folders is that the objects 
nolonger exist in the Public folder view even though pub1.edb and pub1.stm 
are intact. It's almost as though the link has been broken in AD. I guess the 
first thing to do is for to try and find a way to enable these objects again. 
Please help!

"Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Cytrax,
> 
> The best, fastest, and easiest thing you can do is to do a Point in Time 
> Restore of the Public folder store on the Exchange 2000 server from a backup 
> that was made before you removed the replicas from the Exchange 2000 server. 
> To do this and get the public folders to replicate correctly you will need 
> to do the following steps.
> 
> 1) Stop the SMTP virtual server on the E2k server
> 2) Restore the Public folder store from back up (depending on your software 
> this may require you to dismount your mailbox stores)
> 3) Once the restored log files are replayed mount the public folder store
> 4) Go into the ESM and modify the replicas so that they are now listed as 
> being on the E2k and E2k3 servers
> 5) Modify the message priority on the Public folder a number of times (set 
> to High apply, ok, propagate, set to low apply, ok, propagate) this is done 
> to bump up the version information on the PF store.  Recommend doing it 
> around 10 times.
> 6) Start the SMTP virtual server
> 
> This should cause replicas of the public folders to be added to the E2k3 
> server.
> 
> Hope this Helps,
> -- 
> Matthew Byrd
> Microsoft PSS
> 
> Run Microsoft Exchange Server Best Practices Analyzer Today
> http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/exbpa
> 
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> 
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> 
> 
> "Cytrax"  wrote in message 
> news:31959FF9-7F2B-4A60-A208-17778F917077@microsoft.com...
> >I am having a major problem with public folders.
> >
> > Here is the story:
> > I was faced with the task of adding a new Exchange 2003 to Windows 2000
> > Domain. Before the migration, we were running Exchange 2000 Server. 
> > Exchange
> > 2003 setup was OK until... the RAID controller failed which lead to lose 
> > of
> > the entire information store. This meant I had to recreate a new 
> > information
> > store. However, I forgot set the right permissions on 'mdbdata' folder so
> > when I initiated Public folder rehoming from the old Exchange 2000 server, 
> > it
> > effectively removed public folders view from ESM on Exchange 2000. But 
> > when I
> > checked on ESM on the 2003 server, all the public folders were nowhere to 
> > be
> > found. This of course means that users have no access to public folders.
> >
> > I have tried everything I can to rescue this situation but to no avail. I've
> > checked pub1.edb on Exchange 2000 and the size remains at over 600MB so 
> > I'm
> > pretty sure that that it still contains all the public folders. So I guess
> > the question is; how do I get ESM to pickup public folders on Exchange 
> > 2000
> > again without having to reinstall or do anything that would have a
> > detrimental effect on the email service? Remember, pub1.edb and pub1.stm 
> > are
> > still intact on old server.
> >
> > Please help!
> > 
> 
> 
>
date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 01:58:28 -0800   author:   Cytrax

Re: Public folders have disappeared from Public folders store ESM   
Hi Cytrax,

When looking at public folders in the ESM you are exclusivly looking at the 
public folder store.  This means that if there is something missing from 
this view then as far as Exchange is concerned that folder no longer exists. 
There is no way to "reconnect" that folder as all of the information about 
it (other that was is needed to route email to the folder) exists exclusivly 
within the information store database.

To get this information back you are going to have to restore the database 
from a time prior to the changes that were made that resulted in the loss of 
data.

Hope This Helps,
-- 
Matthew Byrd
Microsoft PSS

Run Microsoft Exchange Server Best Practices Analyzer Today
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/exbpa

When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Cytrax"  wrote in message 
news:D3ED921F-48B6-4389-991D-604F06A670D4@microsoft.com...
> Hi Matthew,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> The main problem I'm having is that Public folders is that the objects
> nolonger exist in the Public folder view even though pub1.edb and pub1.stm
> are intact. It's almost as though the link has been broken in AD. I guess 
> the
> first thing to do is for to try and find a way to enable these objects 
> again.
> Please help!
>
> "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> Hi Cytrax,
>>
>> The best, fastest, and easiest thing you can do is to do a Point in Time
>> Restore of the Public folder store on the Exchange 2000 server from a 
>> backup
>> that was made before you removed the replicas from the Exchange 2000 
>> server.
>> To do this and get the public folders to replicate correctly you will 
>> need
>> to do the following steps.
>>
>> 1) Stop the SMTP virtual server on the E2k server
>> 2) Restore the Public folder store from back up (depending on your 
>> software
>> this may require you to dismount your mailbox stores)
>> 3) Once the restored log files are replayed mount the public folder store
>> 4) Go into the ESM and modify the replicas so that they are now listed as
>> being on the E2k and E2k3 servers
>> 5) Modify the message priority on the Public folder a number of times 
>> (set
>> to High apply, ok, propagate, set to low apply, ok, propagate) this is 
>> done
>> to bump up the version information on the PF store.  Recommend doing it
>> around 10 times.
>> 6) Start the SMTP virtual server
>>
>> This should cause replicas of the public folders to be added to the E2k3
>> server.
>>
>> Hope this Helps,
>> -- 
>> Matthew Byrd
>> Microsoft PSS
>>
>> Run Microsoft Exchange Server Best Practices Analyzer Today
>> http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/exbpa
>>
>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
>> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no 
>> rights.
>>
>>
>> "Cytrax"  wrote in message
>> news:31959FF9-7F2B-4A60-A208-17778F917077@microsoft.com...
>> >I am having a major problem with public folders.
>> >
>> > Here is the story:
>> > I was faced with the task of adding a new Exchange 2003 to Windows 2000
>> > Domain. Before the migration, we were running Exchange 2000 Server.
>> > Exchange
>> > 2003 setup was OK until... the RAID controller failed which lead to 
>> > lose
>> > of
>> > the entire information store. This meant I had to recreate a new
>> > information
>> > store. However, I forgot set the right permissions on 'mdbdata' folder 
>> > so
>> > when I initiated Public folder rehoming from the old Exchange 2000 
>> > server,
>> > it
>> > effectively removed public folders view from ESM on Exchange 2000. But
>> > when I
>> > checked on ESM on the 2003 server, all the public folders were nowhere 
>> > to
>> > be
>> > found. This of course means that users have no access to public 
>> > folders.
>> >
>> > I have tried everything I can to rescue this situation but to no avail. 
>> > I've
>> > checked pub1.edb on Exchange 2000 and the size remains at over 600MB so
>> > I'm
>> > pretty sure that that it still contains all the public folders. So I 
>> > guess
>> > the question is; how do I get ESM to pickup public folders on Exchange
>> > 2000
>> > again without having to reinstall or do anything that would have a
>> > detrimental effect on the email service? Remember, pub1.edb and 
>> > pub1.stm
>> > are
>> > still intact on old server.
>> >
>> > Please help!
>> >
>>
>>
>>
date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:13:35 -0500   author:   Matthew Byrd [MSFT]

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