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date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:56:01 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.exchange2000.general        back       


Unauthorized Message Relay   
I am pretty sure our server is being used to relay messages, lots of them.  
Our badmail folder fills up constantly and at inconsistant intervals, MDBDATA 
receives 5MB log files in bunches, like 20 or 30 files in a few minutes. 
Message tracking shows dozens of emails in just a few minutes.  We only have 
about a dozen users, and email is used only occassionaly by any one of them. 
I have read tons of articles about the SMTP Virtual Server settings and have 
tried all kinds of combinations to shut this down, but to no avail.  If I 
"uncheck" Anonomous Access in Authentication, it stops the badmail, but also 
stops all outside email from coming in.  We are behind a firewall and I have 
the relay restrictions set to "Only the list below" and in the "list below" 
have our LAN ip xxx.xxx.xxx.0/255.255.255.0.  Is there something simple I am 
missing or is this a problem with a difficult solution?
date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:56:01 -0700   author:   BackthePack

Re: Unauthorized Message Relay   
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:56:01 -0700, BackthePack
 wrote:

>I am pretty sure our server is being used to relay messages, lots of them.  
>Our badmail folder fills up constantly and at inconsistant intervals, MDBDATA 
>receives 5MB log files in bunches, like 20 or 30 files in a few minutes. 
>Message tracking shows dozens of emails in just a few minutes.  We only have 
>about a dozen users, and email is used only occassionaly by any one of them. 
>I have read tons of articles about the SMTP Virtual Server settings and have 
>tried all kinds of combinations to shut this down, but to no avail.  If I 
>"uncheck" Anonomous Access in Authentication, it stops the badmail, but also 
>stops all outside email from coming in.  We are behind a firewall and I have 
>the relay restrictions set to "Only the list below" and in the "list below" 
>have our LAN ip xxx.xxx.xxx.0/255.255.255.0.  Is there something simple I am 
>missing or is this a problem with a difficult solution?

You're probably not being used as a relay ut you shouldn't actually
need to have any addresses allowed to subnet anyway.

Badmail won't have anything to do with the log files mounting up so
there are a couple of issues. If you receive a lot in the badmail you
may be receiving a lot of spam messages but the log file creation
could be down to that spam or another reason such as a message loop or
the odd virus scan that's doing directories it shouldn't.
date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:29:48 +0100   author:   Mark Arnold [MVP]

Re: Unauthorized Message Relay   
You are right.  If I take the subnet out of Relay Restrictions, it has no 
effect.  The problem I have is any changes that I make that shut down the Bad 
Mail accumulation, shuts down outside email.  How should I have the SMTP 
Virtual server configured, or should I be looking somewhere else in Exchange?

"Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:56:01 -0700, BackthePack
>  wrote:
> 
> >I am pretty sure our server is being used to relay messages, lots of them.  
> >Our badmail folder fills up constantly and at inconsistant intervals, MDBDATA 
> >receives 5MB log files in bunches, like 20 or 30 files in a few minutes. 
> >Message tracking shows dozens of emails in just a few minutes.  We only have 
> >about a dozen users, and email is used only occassionaly by any one of them. 
> >I have read tons of articles about the SMTP Virtual Server settings and have 
> >tried all kinds of combinations to shut this down, but to no avail.  If I 
> >"uncheck" Anonomous Access in Authentication, it stops the badmail, but also 
> >stops all outside email from coming in.  We are behind a firewall and I have 
> >the relay restrictions set to "Only the list below" and in the "list below" 
> >have our LAN ip xxx.xxx.xxx.0/255.255.255.0.  Is there something simple I am 
> >missing or is this a problem with a difficult solution?
> 
> You're probably not being used as a relay ut you shouldn't actually
> need to have any addresses allowed to subnet anyway.
> 
> Badmail won't have anything to do with the log files mounting up so
> there are a couple of issues. If you receive a lot in the badmail you
> may be receiving a lot of spam messages but the log file creation
> could be down to that spam or another reason such as a message loop or
> the odd virus scan that's doing directories it shouldn't.
>
date: Mon, 1 May 2006 10:05:02 -0700   author:   BackthePack

Re: Unauthorized Message Relay   
Hi,

These should help:
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF005.html
http://www.vamsoft.com/orf/authattack.asp

Leif

"BackthePack"  wrote in message 
news:8876A45A-ECB8-4D55-834B-39B4C140967E@microsoft.com...
> You are right.  If I take the subnet out of Relay Restrictions, it has no
> effect.  The problem I have is any changes that I make that shut down the 
> Bad
> Mail accumulation, shuts down outside email.  How should I have the SMTP
> Virtual server configured, or should I be looking somewhere else in 
> Exchange?
>
> "Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:56:01 -0700, BackthePack
>>  wrote:
>>
>> >I am pretty sure our server is being used to relay messages, lots of 
>> >them.
>> >Our badmail folder fills up constantly and at inconsistant intervals, 
>> >MDBDATA
>> >receives 5MB log files in bunches, like 20 or 30 files in a few minutes.
>> >Message tracking shows dozens of emails in just a few minutes.  We only 
>> >have
>> >about a dozen users, and email is used only occassionaly by any one of 
>> >them.
>> >I have read tons of articles about the SMTP Virtual Server settings and 
>> >have
>> >tried all kinds of combinations to shut this down, but to no avail.  If 
>> >I
>> >"uncheck" Anonomous Access in Authentication, it stops the badmail, but 
>> >also
>> >stops all outside email from coming in.  We are behind a firewall and I 
>> >have
>> >the relay restrictions set to "Only the list below" and in the "list 
>> >below"
>> >have our LAN ip xxx.xxx.xxx.0/255.255.255.0.  Is there something simple 
>> >I am
>> >missing or is this a problem with a difficult solution?
>>
>> You're probably not being used as a relay ut you shouldn't actually
>> need to have any addresses allowed to subnet anyway.
>>
>> Badmail won't have anything to do with the log files mounting up so
>> there are a couple of issues. If you receive a lot in the badmail you
>> may be receiving a lot of spam messages but the log file creation
>> could be down to that spam or another reason such as a message loop or
>> the odd virus scan that's doing directories it shouldn't.
>>
date: Sat, 6 May 2006 19:45:39 +0200   author:   Leif Pedersen [MVP]

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