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date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:58:02 +0100,    group: microsoft.public.exchange2000.documentation        back       


How defrag exchange Db on second partition   
Hi
My exchange Db was growing to much, i read document to make offline defrag 
but i don't understand how to do it on another partiton because i haven't 
110% free space on C:\
Can help me?
Tia Pupo
date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:58:02 +0100   author:   Pupo

Re: How defrag exchange Db on second partition   
Here is what someone gave me a couple of years ago to do an offline defrag 
to another PC or server when you dont have the space available on your 2000 
exchange server.

I have had to use it several times.  workes pretty good.

Here is the text:








You do not have to copy the files before you defrag the system.  I would

recommend the following actions on the Exchange server to defrag your

database.



1) Stop the Information store service



2) Map a network drive to a location that has at least 18Gb of Free space



3) Run the following command "eseutil /d F:\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t 
g:\tempdfg.edb"





eseutil /d F:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t g:\tempdfg.edb





(fill in the correct drive letters and paths for your

environment)

4) Once it finishes save all of your e00*.log files to a safe location



5) Mark the database as "can be overwritten by a restore"



6) Start the Information store service



What this command does it run the defrag "eseutil /d" specified the edb file

to defragment "f:\mdbdata\priv1.edb" then specifies the located to place the

temporary database "/t X:\tempdfg.edb".  As the command runs it will create

the defragged database for you on the remote network share.  It will then

copy the database back to the production location.  It is simply a matter of

executing the command then waiting for it to complete.




"Pupo"  wrote in message 
news:uTjdtSRSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi
> My exchange Db was growing to much, i read document to make offline defrag 
> but i don't understand how to do it on another partiton because i haven't 
> 110% free space on C:\
> Can help me?
> Tia Pupo
>
date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:53:44 -0500   author:   Gary M garym_jacksonfurniture(removespam)@hotmail.com

Re: How defrag exchange Db on second partition   
I'd skip point 5 unless someone can tell me a good reason why you allow your 
Exchange database to be overwritten. Good way to make a horlicks of your 
store.

"Gary M" <garym_jacksonfurniture(removespam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:OmiVQXUSHHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Here is what someone gave me a couple of years ago to do an offline defrag 
> to another PC or server when you dont have the space available on your 
> 2000 exchange server.
>
> I have had to use it several times.  workes pretty good.
>
> Here is the text:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> You do not have to copy the files before you defrag the system.  I would
>
> recommend the following actions on the Exchange server to defrag your
>
> database.
>
>
>
> 1) Stop the Information store service
>
>
>
> 2) Map a network drive to a location that has at least 18Gb of Free space
>
>
>
> 3) Run the following command "eseutil /d F:\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t 
> g:\tempdfg.edb"
>
>
>
>
>
> eseutil /d F:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t g:\tempdfg.edb
>
>
>
>
>
> (fill in the correct drive letters and paths for your
>
> environment)
>
> 4) Once it finishes save all of your e00*.log files to a safe location
>
>
>
> 5) Mark the database as "can be overwritten by a restore"
>
>
>
> 6) Start the Information store service
>
>
>
> What this command does it run the defrag "eseutil /d" specified the edb 
> file
>
> to defragment "f:\mdbdata\priv1.edb" then specifies the located to place 
> the
>
> temporary database "/t X:\tempdfg.edb".  As the command runs it will 
> create
>
> the defragged database for you on the remote network share.  It will then
>
> copy the database back to the production location.  It is simply a matter 
> of
>
> executing the command then waiting for it to complete.
>
>
>
>
> "Pupo"  wrote in message 
> news:uTjdtSRSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>> My exchange Db was growing to much, i read document to make offline 
>> defrag but i don't understand how to do it on another partiton because i 
>> haven't 110% free space on C:\
>> Can help me?
>> Tia Pupo
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:58:53 -0000   author:   Nick Gillott [MVP]

Re: How defrag exchange Db on second partition   
In news:uTjdtSRSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
Pupo  typed:
> Hi
> My exchange Db was growing to much, i read document to make offline
> defrag but i don't understand how to do it on another partiton
> because i haven't 110% free space on C:\
> Can help me?
> Tia Pupo

You can use the /t switch to direct the temp file output elsewhere. Note 
that it will take longer to run the offline defrag if you use this.

Are you sure you need to do this anyway? eseutil is not meant to be run as 
part of regular maintenance. Exchange will re-use the whitespace in the 
database file. Check in your app event log for 1221 events, which should 
tell you how much space you'd actually recover. If you run E2k standard, 
make sure you've got mailbox quotas in place (defaults set on the store, 
exceptions made per mailbox) which will prevent it growing beyond 16GB.
date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:47:35 -0500   author:   Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Re: How defrag exchange Db on second partition   
so you shouldnt do #5?
I got this from a microsoft guy in this newsgroup several years ago.

I have used it twice now, without any issues, but maybe I was just lucky?

Gary

"Nick Gillott [MVP]"  wrote in message 
news:uXaBHAWSHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I'd skip point 5 unless someone can tell me a good reason why you allow 
> your Exchange database to be overwritten. Good way to make a horlicks of 
> your store.
>
> "Gary M" <garym_jacksonfurniture(removespam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:OmiVQXUSHHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Here is what someone gave me a couple of years ago to do an offline 
>> defrag to another PC or server when you dont have the space available on 
>> your 2000 exchange server.
>>
>> I have had to use it several times.  workes pretty good.
>>
>> Here is the text:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You do not have to copy the files before you defrag the system.  I would
>>
>> recommend the following actions on the Exchange server to defrag your
>>
>> database.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Stop the Information store service
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) Map a network drive to a location that has at least 18Gb of Free space
>>
>>
>>
>> 3) Run the following command "eseutil /d F:\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t 
>> g:\tempdfg.edb"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> eseutil /d F:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t g:\tempdfg.edb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> (fill in the correct drive letters and paths for your
>>
>> environment)
>>
>> 4) Once it finishes save all of your e00*.log files to a safe location
>>
>>
>>
>> 5) Mark the database as "can be overwritten by a restore"
>>
>>
>>
>> 6) Start the Information store service
>>
>>
>>
>> What this command does it run the defrag "eseutil /d" specified the edb 
>> file
>>
>> to defragment "f:\mdbdata\priv1.edb" then specifies the located to place 
>> the
>>
>> temporary database "/t X:\tempdfg.edb".  As the command runs it will 
>> create
>>
>> the defragged database for you on the remote network share.  It will then
>>
>> copy the database back to the production location.  It is simply a matter 
>> of
>>
>> executing the command then waiting for it to complete.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Pupo"  wrote in message 
>> news:uTjdtSRSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>> My exchange Db was growing to much, i read document to make offline 
>>> defrag but i don't understand how to do it on another partiton because i 
>>> haven't 110% free space on C:\
>>> Can help me?
>>> Tia Pupo
>>>
>>
>>
>
date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 08:14:10 -0500   author:   Gary M garym_jacksonfurniture(removespam)@hotmail.com

Re: How defrag exchange Db on second partition   
Mapping a network drive isn't actually a supported solution and you'll
find plenty of Microsoft people who will do major rolling of the
rosaries if you even suggest it. Still, if the network is reliable and
in good shape you are very unlikely to have a problem. It's a devils
advocate type comment really.

The whole copying of log files out is wrong and pointless anyway. You
should do a backup before attempting a defrag and one after. If you
cannot do a backup you shouldn't attempt to do a defrag.
If you can do a backup you won't have any log files that have any
(much) data in it since the store will be dismounted as soon as you've
done the backup so the only stuff in log files you have will be mail
received/sent during the timeframe of the backup.

So, I'm on message with 1 through 3, not 4 and 5 because they're
uncessary.

On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 08:14:10 -0500, "Gary M"
<garym_jacksonfurniture(removespam)@hotmail.com> wrote:

>so you shouldnt do #5?
>I got this from a microsoft guy in this newsgroup several years ago.
>
>I have used it twice now, without any issues, but maybe I was just lucky?
>
>Gary
>
>"Nick Gillott [MVP]"  wrote in message 
>news:uXaBHAWSHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I'd skip point 5 unless someone can tell me a good reason why you allow 
>> your Exchange database to be overwritten. Good way to make a horlicks of 
>> your store.
>>
>> "Gary M" <garym_jacksonfurniture(removespam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:OmiVQXUSHHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Here is what someone gave me a couple of years ago to do an offline 
>>> defrag to another PC or server when you dont have the space available on 
>>> your 2000 exchange server.
>>>
>>> I have had to use it several times.  workes pretty good.
>>>
>>> Here is the text:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You do not have to copy the files before you defrag the system.  I would
>>>
>>> recommend the following actions on the Exchange server to defrag your
>>>
>>> database.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Stop the Information store service
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) Map a network drive to a location that has at least 18Gb of Free space
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3) Run the following command "eseutil /d F:\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t 
>>> g:\tempdfg.edb"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> eseutil /d F:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t g:\tempdfg.edb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (fill in the correct drive letters and paths for your
>>>
>>> environment)
>>>
>>> 4) Once it finishes save all of your e00*.log files to a safe location
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5) Mark the database as "can be overwritten by a restore"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 6) Start the Information store service
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What this command does it run the defrag "eseutil /d" specified the edb 
>>> file
>>>
>>> to defragment "f:\mdbdata\priv1.edb" then specifies the located to place 
>>> the
>>>
>>> temporary database "/t X:\tempdfg.edb".  As the command runs it will 
>>> create
>>>
>>> the defragged database for you on the remote network share.  It will then
>>>
>>> copy the database back to the production location.  It is simply a matter 
>>> of
>>>
>>> executing the command then waiting for it to complete.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Pupo"  wrote in message 
>>> news:uTjdtSRSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi
>>>> My exchange Db was growing to much, i read document to make offline 
>>>> defrag but i don't understand how to do it on another partiton because i 
>>>> haven't 110% free space on C:\
>>>> Can help me?
>>>> Tia Pupo
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> 
>
date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:49:35 +0000   author:   Mark Arnold [MVP]

Re: How defrag exchange Db on second partition   
good to know.

thanks!

gary


"Mark Arnold [MVP]"  wrote in message 
news:g0ugs25a2p3r9n2fsgc1vmqa3k63cu4o8n@4ax.com...
> Mapping a network drive isn't actually a supported solution and you'll
> find plenty of Microsoft people who will do major rolling of the
> rosaries if you even suggest it. Still, if the network is reliable and
> in good shape you are very unlikely to have a problem. It's a devils
> advocate type comment really.
>
> The whole copying of log files out is wrong and pointless anyway. You
> should do a backup before attempting a defrag and one after. If you
> cannot do a backup you shouldn't attempt to do a defrag.
> If you can do a backup you won't have any log files that have any
> (much) data in it since the store will be dismounted as soon as you've
> done the backup so the only stuff in log files you have will be mail
> received/sent during the timeframe of the backup.
>
> So, I'm on message with 1 through 3, not 4 and 5 because they're
> uncessary.
>
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 08:14:10 -0500, "Gary M"
> <garym_jacksonfurniture(removespam)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>so you shouldnt do #5?
>>I got this from a microsoft guy in this newsgroup several years ago.
>>
>>I have used it twice now, without any issues, but maybe I was just lucky?
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>"Nick Gillott [MVP]"  wrote in message
>>news:uXaBHAWSHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> I'd skip point 5 unless someone can tell me a good reason why you allow
>>> your Exchange database to be overwritten. Good way to make a horlicks of
>>> your store.
>>>
>>> "Gary M" <garym_jacksonfurniture(removespam)@hotmail.com> wrote in 
>>> message
>>> news:OmiVQXUSHHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Here is what someone gave me a couple of years ago to do an offline
>>>> defrag to another PC or server when you dont have the space available 
>>>> on
>>>> your 2000 exchange server.
>>>>
>>>> I have had to use it several times.  workes pretty good.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the text:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You do not have to copy the files before you defrag the system.  I 
>>>> would
>>>>
>>>> recommend the following actions on the Exchange server to defrag your
>>>>
>>>> database.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) Stop the Information store service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2) Map a network drive to a location that has at least 18Gb of Free 
>>>> space
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3) Run the following command "eseutil /d F:\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t
>>>> g:\tempdfg.edb"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> eseutil /d F:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb /t g:\tempdfg.edb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (fill in the correct drive letters and paths for your
>>>>
>>>> environment)
>>>>
>>>> 4) Once it finishes save all of your e00*.log files to a safe location
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5) Mark the database as "can be overwritten by a restore"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6) Start the Information store service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What this command does it run the defrag "eseutil /d" specified the edb
>>>> file
>>>>
>>>> to defragment "f:\mdbdata\priv1.edb" then specifies the located to 
>>>> place
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> temporary database "/t X:\tempdfg.edb".  As the command runs it will
>>>> create
>>>>
>>>> the defragged database for you on the remote network share.  It will 
>>>> then
>>>>
>>>> copy the database back to the production location.  It is simply a 
>>>> matter
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>> executing the command then waiting for it to complete.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Pupo"  wrote in message
>>>> news:uTjdtSRSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> My exchange Db was growing to much, i read document to make offline
>>>>> defrag but i don't understand how to do it on another partiton because 
>>>>> i
>>>>> haven't 110% free space on C:\
>>>>> Can help me?
>>>>> Tia Pupo
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:50:53 -0500   author:   Gary M garym_jacksonfurniture(removespam)@hotmail.com

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