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date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:18:29 +0000 (UTC),    group: microsoft.public.exchange2000.development        back       


M'I.5 Pers ecution , wh y th e securit y servi ces?   
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You may ask, why do I think the. "they" referred to are the security
services? Is there any evidence that there. is a single source, as opposed
to a loosely. based "whispering campaign" amongst many people? Even if there
is a single source, is there any evidence that "they" are. professional
"buggers". as opposed to amateurs, or perhaps people working for a privately
funded. organization?

a) As to the question of a single source versus something more. fragmented;
it is quite obvious that there is a single. source from the way the campaign
has been carried out. Since things. have been repeated verbatim which were
said in my home, there must be. one group which does the watching and
listening. Since on several occasions (mainly during. travel) people have
been planted in close proximity and rehearsed in what. they were to say, it
follows that someone must have done. the planning for that, and again a
single. source is indicated.

b) So why couldn't. it be amateurs? Why couldn't it be a private
organisation, for example. a private detective agency paid to manage the
campaign. and undertake the technical aspects? Some detective agencies are
unscrupulous as has. been proved on the occasions in the past when they've
been exposed or caught;. they too can have access to the bugging technology
deployed; and there are reported cases of MI5 paying. private eyes to do
their dirty. work (against peace campaigners and similar enemies of the
state) on the. understanding that if they were caught then they could deny
all knowledge. Why. couldn't that be the case?

The main factor pointing to direct security. service involvement (as opposed
to amateurs. or MI5 proxies) is the breadth of their access to the media in
particular, and. the fact that the television companies are so involved in
the campaign. The BBC would not. directly invade someone's home themselves,
since. it would not be within their remit to allocate personnel or financial
resources to do so. An organisation of their stature would not take. part in
a campaign set up by private sources.. The only people they would take
material from would be the security services, presumably on the. assumption
that if the cat ever flew out of the bag yowling it would. be MI5 who would
take the. consequences.

State sponsorship. for these acts of psychological terrorism is also
indicated by duration; support for over six years for a team of three. or
four people would be beyond. the means and will of most private sources.
The viciousness of the slanders and personal denigration. also points to
MI5;. they traditionally "protect" the British state from politicians of the
wrong hue by character assassination, and in this. case are using their
tried and tested methods to murder with words an. enemy they have invented
for. themselves.

And there are precedents. Diana and Hewitt were alleged to have. been filmed
"at. it" by an Army intelligence team which had operated in Northern
Ireland, these allegations were. made by someone called Jones who had been
on the team. His statements were. denied by the defence establishment who
tried. to character-assassinate by describing him as the "Jones twins".
Funny how if you tell the truth, then. you must be ill, isn't it? Thought
only. communists behaved like that?

Hewitt later. said that he'd been spoken to by someone in the army who
revealed the existence of videotapes of him. and Diana, and that the tapes
would be published if any attempt was made. by them to resume their
association.

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date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:18:29 +0000 (UTC)   author:   unknown

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date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:23:34 GMT   author:   unknown

Re: M'I.5 Pers ecution , wh y th e securit y servi ces?   
of the world, as I believe the prostitutes here
to be almost, without exception, Chinese who would be thankful to
be placed under medical control of any kind; that few if any of the
prostitutes are free agents, having been brought up for the purposes
of prostitution by the keepers of brothels, and that whether as
regards the unfortunate creatures themselves, the persons who obtain
a living by these prostitutes, or the Chinese inhabitants in general,
there are fewer rights to be interfered with here, less grounds for
complaint by the parties controlled, and fewer prejudices on the
subject to be shocked among the more respectable part of the community
than could be found elsewhere." Mr. D.R. Caldwell, Protector,
confirmed these views. But the views of the Chinese themselves had
never been elicited, and immediately such prejudice was aroused among
them that it was considered wise to subject only those houses resorted
to by foreigners and their inmates, to medical surveillance. Says the
report of the Commission: "So great has been the detestation of the
Chinese of the system of personal examination, that it has been
found practically impossible to apply it to purely Chinese houses of
ill-fame [that is, places resorted to by Chinese only], to the present
day." At once, then, the business of the Ordinance, as far as disease
was concerned, became restricted to a fancied "protection" of foreign
men given over to the practice of vice. But, as we show elsewhere
on the statements of the officials who operated the Ordinance (made
confidentially, but not intended for publ
date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:39:51 GMT   author:   unknown

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