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date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 16:47:56 -0500,
group: microsoft.public.exchange2000.clustering
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Re: Server 2003+Exchange+DC
Where should I begin? From the little you wrote, you don't need Clustering.
It sounds like you a solid Disaster Recovery plan, solid backup software,
solid restore process, etc.
Next, you might want to look into third party replication software, because
clustering does not replicate Exchange data. Here are few that do what you
need:
http://www.xosoft.com/products/f_WANSyncHAExchange.shtml?source=google
http://www.servepath.com/hosted/data_replication_services.htm?src=GoogDR
http://www.nsisoftware.com/_pdf/NSI%20DT_Exchange.pdf
http://www.datadomain.com/pdf/DataDomain-Microsoft-Exchange.pdf
http://www.azaleos.net/Product.aspx (I know someone that works here, she
rocks, so the products must be good)
I have not used any of the above, so I can't endorse any of them, and the
list is not complete by any means!
Lastly, clustering a DC is not support and a very bad idea, so you would
need new hardware to accomplish that a new cluster(besides you have to
cluster, then install Exchange).
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://msmvps.com/clustering/archive/2005/07/20/58233.aspx NYC Clustering
class
"Drew Boillot" wrote in message
news:eDk0uKulFHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I'm not sure if this is the right place to post but here goes.
>
> We currently have 1 DC running Exchange, we've been looking in to forms of
> recovery should the server die, or gets destroyed. Someone suggested that
> we could possibly cluster 2 servers together, one on site and one off
> site. does anyone know if this would work? and how much of a problem it
> would be to implament?
>
> My other question is will clustering do the following:
> 1. Provide an exchange backup/copy with no more then an hour old data
> 2. Provide an alternet way for users to login should the main server die
> or get destroyed.
>
> if it will not, does anyone have a suggestion that would?
>
date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 22:48:16 -0500
author: Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Re: Server 2003+Exchange+DC
Hums.. I thought I saw somewhere in the exchange manager an option to "push"
data to a secondary server, or something.. wonder if that would help us
any..
that is what we are trying to do, money is very limited so we were trying to
do it with what we already had. if clustering is out of the question and if
these software packages are to expensive, is there anything we can do with
our current setup?
Current setup
1 DC/Ench server *
1 SQL server *
1 Term server
1 Apps server
1 old server
(* mission critical)
we have 2 locations w/ a t1 connection, and currently have Backup Exec 10.x
(w/ exchange plugin) backing up the data, with a batch file backing up
changed files to a removable disk that is taken home every day. We feel we
have the data backed up farley well, but we are concerned about restoring
the servers configuration such as users and exchange data, I wasn't here
when these servers were put in to place, and I'll admit I have very little
knowledge on the matters. I will look at the sites you both have listed and
hopefully one of them with work with what we what to do.. and with our
limited funding.
Thanks for your replies!
PS if you need specific information, just let me know.
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote in
message news:ewkIJUxlFHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Where should I begin? From the little you wrote, you don't need
> Clustering. It sounds like you a solid Disaster Recovery plan, solid
> backup software, solid restore process, etc.
>
> Next, you might want to look into third party replication software,
> because clustering does not replicate Exchange data. Here are few that do
> what you need:
> http://www.xosoft.com/products/f_WANSyncHAExchange.shtml?source=google
> http://www.servepath.com/hosted/data_replication_services.htm?src=GoogDR
> http://www.nsisoftware.com/_pdf/NSI%20DT_Exchange.pdf
> http://www.datadomain.com/pdf/DataDomain-Microsoft-Exchange.pdf
> http://www.azaleos.net/Product.aspx (I know someone that works here, she
> rocks, so the products must be good)
>
> I have not used any of the above, so I can't endorse any of them, and the
> list is not complete by any means!
>
> Lastly, clustering a DC is not support and a very bad idea, so you would
> need new hardware to accomplish that a new cluster(besides you have to
> cluster, then install Exchange).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rod
>
> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
> http://msmvps.com/clustering/archive/2005/07/20/58233.aspx NYC Clustering
> class
>
>
> "Drew Boillot" wrote in message
> news:eDk0uKulFHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> I'm not sure if this is the right place to post but here goes.
>>
>> We currently have 1 DC running Exchange, we've been looking in to forms
>> of recovery should the server die, or gets destroyed. Someone suggested
>> that we could possibly cluster 2 servers together, one on site and one
>> off site. does anyone know if this would work? and how much of a problem
>> it would be to implament?
>>
>> My other question is will clustering do the following:
>> 1. Provide an exchange backup/copy with no more then an hour old data
>> 2. Provide an alternet way for users to login should the main server die
>> or get destroyed.
>>
>> if it will not, does anyone have a suggestion that would?
>>
>
>
>
date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:11:29 -0500
author: Drew Boillot
Re: Server 2003+Exchange+DC
You can push public folder information back and forth between two or more
Exchange servers. This is will not help your email users a bit though.
If you add another Exchange server, say on the Terminal Server, the
mailboxes would still only be on 1 server at time. Replication sounds like
what they want, but the price maybe very high, depending on the solution.
Let us know what you decide to do, please.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://msmvps.com/clustering/archive/2005/07/20/58233.aspx NYC Clustering
class
"Drew Boillot" wrote in message
news:OgDt3R3lFHA.2904@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hums.. I thought I saw somewhere in the exchange manager an option to
> "push" data to a secondary server, or something.. wonder if that would
> help us any..
>
> that is what we are trying to do, money is very limited so we were trying
> to do it with what we already had. if clustering is out of the question
> and if these software packages are to expensive, is there anything we can
> do with our current setup?
>
> Current setup
> 1 DC/Ench server *
> 1 SQL server *
> 1 Term server
> 1 Apps server
> 1 old server
> (* mission critical)
> we have 2 locations w/ a t1 connection, and currently have Backup Exec
> 10.x (w/ exchange plugin) backing up the data, with a batch file backing
> up changed files to a removable disk that is taken home every day. We feel
> we have the data backed up farley well, but we are concerned about
> restoring the servers configuration such as users and exchange data, I
> wasn't here when these servers were put in to place, and I'll admit I have
> very little knowledge on the matters. I will look at the sites you both
> have listed and hopefully one of them with work with what we what to do..
> and with our limited funding.
>
> Thanks for your replies!
>
> PS if you need specific information, just let me know.
>
>
>
>
> "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote in
> message news:ewkIJUxlFHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Where should I begin? From the little you wrote, you don't need
>> Clustering. It sounds like you a solid Disaster Recovery plan, solid
>> backup software, solid restore process, etc.
>>
>> Next, you might want to look into third party replication software,
>> because clustering does not replicate Exchange data. Here are few that do
>> what you need:
>> http://www.xosoft.com/products/f_WANSyncHAExchange.shtml?source=google
>> http://www.servepath.com/hosted/data_replication_services.htm?src=GoogDR
>> http://www.nsisoftware.com/_pdf/NSI%20DT_Exchange.pdf
>> http://www.datadomain.com/pdf/DataDomain-Microsoft-Exchange.pdf
>> http://www.azaleos.net/Product.aspx (I know someone that works here, she
>> rocks, so the products must be good)
>>
>> I have not used any of the above, so I can't endorse any of them, and the
>> list is not complete by any means!
>>
>> Lastly, clustering a DC is not support and a very bad idea, so you would
>> need new hardware to accomplish that a new cluster(besides you have to
>> cluster, then install Exchange).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
>> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
>> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
>> http://msmvps.com/clustering/archive/2005/07/20/58233.aspx NYC Clustering
>> class
>>
>>
>> "Drew Boillot" wrote in message
>> news:eDk0uKulFHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> I'm not sure if this is the right place to post but here goes.
>>>
>>> We currently have 1 DC running Exchange, we've been looking in to forms
>>> of recovery should the server die, or gets destroyed. Someone suggested
>>> that we could possibly cluster 2 servers together, one on site and one
>>> off site. does anyone know if this would work? and how much of a problem
>>> it would be to implament?
>>>
>>> My other question is will clustering do the following:
>>> 1. Provide an exchange backup/copy with no more then an hour old data
>>> 2. Provide an alternet way for users to login should the main server die
>>> or get destroyed.
>>>
>>> if it will not, does anyone have a suggestion that would?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:11:41 -0500
author: Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
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