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date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:51:02 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.exchange2000.admin        back       


Exchange Backup Failing   
My Exchange Information Store and Shadow Copy is failing due to insufficient 
disk space.  When this happens, Veritas prompts for another tape, however, no 
one is there and it times out and the backup fails.  What I would like to do 
is back the Information Store and Shadow Copy onto a network drive.  Then, I 
would back it up on tape when I arrive in the morning.

My dilemma is, timing.  I start my remote backup around 10:30 p.m.  It backs 
4 remote servers in the following order:  TS1, TS2, IIS, EXCHANGE

By the time it reaches Exchange, users are on the system (we have users in 
the EST, CMT, and PST time zones) .  Is it possible to backup the Information 
Store and Shadow Copy while users are logged in?  Could this cause an issue?

Thanks
date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:51:02 -0700   author:   teenzbutler

Re: Exchange Backup Failing   
If you are using the exchange agent you can perform online backups while 
users are accessing exchange.

"teenzbutler"  wrote in message 
news:6673FFAA-E797-449E-8AA0-C3FBF91252B4@microsoft.com...
> My Exchange Information Store and Shadow Copy is failing due to 
> insufficient
> disk space.  When this happens, Veritas prompts for another tape, however, 
> no
> one is there and it times out and the backup fails.  What I would like to 
> do
> is back the Information Store and Shadow Copy onto a network drive.  Then, 
> I
> would back it up on tape when I arrive in the morning.
>
> My dilemma is, timing.  I start my remote backup around 10:30 p.m.  It 
> backs
> 4 remote servers in the following order:  TS1, TS2, IIS, EXCHANGE
>
> By the time it reaches Exchange, users are on the system (we have users in
> the EST, CMT, and PST time zones) .  Is it possible to backup the 
> Information
> Store and Shadow Copy while users are logged in?  Could this cause an 
> issue?
>
> Thanks
date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:01:08 -0400   author:   Kevin Longley

Re: Exchange Backup Failing   
Thanks for you reply Kevin.  I am not sure if I am using the exchange agent.  
I use the Backup Exec Remote Agent for Windows Servers.  Is this what you are 
referring to?

"Kevin Longley" wrote:

> If you are using the exchange agent you can perform online backups while 
> users are accessing exchange.
> 
> "teenzbutler"  wrote in message 
> news:6673FFAA-E797-449E-8AA0-C3FBF91252B4@microsoft.com...
> > My Exchange Information Store and Shadow Copy is failing due to 
> > insufficient
> > disk space.  When this happens, Veritas prompts for another tape, however, 
> > no
> > one is there and it times out and the backup fails.  What I would like to 
> > do
> > is back the Information Store and Shadow Copy onto a network drive.  Then, 
> > I
> > would back it up on tape when I arrive in the morning.
> >
> > My dilemma is, timing.  I start my remote backup around 10:30 p.m.  It 
> > backs
> > 4 remote servers in the following order:  TS1, TS2, IIS, EXCHANGE
> >
> > By the time it reaches Exchange, users are on the system (we have users in
> > the EST, CMT, and PST time zones) .  Is it possible to backup the 
> > Information
> > Store and Shadow Copy while users are logged in?  Could this cause an 
> > issue?
> >
> > Thanks 
> 
> 
>
date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:09:01 -0700   author:   teenzbutler

Re: Exchange Backup Failing   
No - there is a specific exchange agent option from veritas. Within BE check 
where the serial numbers are entered and you should see it there if it is 
installed. You can also look at the backup log which shows if the agent is 
being used during the exchange backups. What size is your tape drive? Are 
your exchange logs truncating when you perform a full backup of the exchange 
information store?

"teenzbutler"  wrote in message 
news:3DE775C8-6798-4C6C-A3F4-6DDD315D9F1B@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for you reply Kevin.  I am not sure if I am using the exchange 
> agent.
> I use the Backup Exec Remote Agent for Windows Servers.  Is this what you 
> are
> referring to?
>
> "Kevin Longley" wrote:
>
>> If you are using the exchange agent you can perform online backups while
>> users are accessing exchange.
>>
>> "teenzbutler"  wrote in message
>> news:6673FFAA-E797-449E-8AA0-C3FBF91252B4@microsoft.com...
>> > My Exchange Information Store and Shadow Copy is failing due to
>> > insufficient
>> > disk space.  When this happens, Veritas prompts for another tape, 
>> > however,
>> > no
>> > one is there and it times out and the backup fails.  What I would like 
>> > to
>> > do
>> > is back the Information Store and Shadow Copy onto a network drive. 
>> > Then,
>> > I
>> > would back it up on tape when I arrive in the morning.
>> >
>> > My dilemma is, timing.  I start my remote backup around 10:30 p.m.  It
>> > backs
>> > 4 remote servers in the following order:  TS1, TS2, IIS, EXCHANGE
>> >
>> > By the time it reaches Exchange, users are on the system (we have users 
>> > in
>> > the EST, CMT, and PST time zones) .  Is it possible to backup the
>> > Information
>> > Store and Shadow Copy while users are logged in?  Could this cause an
>> > issue?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>
>>
>>
date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:50:58 -0400   author:   Kevin Longley

Re: Exchange Backup Failing   
Thanks for you reply.  I have a 36/72 gig tape drive.  It would be 
sufficient, however, I back up three other servers on this tape as well.  So 
I thought it would be ideal to backup the Exchange to a network drive, then 
when I get in, back it onto a new tape.  

The "Agent for Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server" appears to be licensed and 
installed on my Veritas Server.  So does this means I can perform a backup of 
the Mail Boxes, Info Store and Shadow Copy while users are on the system?  

"Kevin Longley" wrote:

> No - there is a specific exchange agent option from veritas. Within BE check 
> where the serial numbers are entered and you should see it there if it is 
> installed. You can also look at the backup log which shows if the agent is 
> being used during the exchange backups. What size is your tape drive? Are 
> your exchange logs truncating when you perform a full backup of the exchange 
> information store?
> 
> "teenzbutler"  wrote in message 
> news:3DE775C8-6798-4C6C-A3F4-6DDD315D9F1B@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for you reply Kevin.  I am not sure if I am using the exchange 
> > agent.
> > I use the Backup Exec Remote Agent for Windows Servers.  Is this what you 
> > are
> > referring to?
> >
> > "Kevin Longley" wrote:
> >
> >> If you are using the exchange agent you can perform online backups while
> >> users are accessing exchange.
> >>
> >> "teenzbutler"  wrote in message
> >> news:6673FFAA-E797-449E-8AA0-C3FBF91252B4@microsoft.com...
> >> > My Exchange Information Store and Shadow Copy is failing due to
> >> > insufficient
> >> > disk space.  When this happens, Veritas prompts for another tape, 
> >> > however,
> >> > no
> >> > one is there and it times out and the backup fails.  What I would like 
> >> > to
> >> > do
> >> > is back the Information Store and Shadow Copy onto a network drive. 
> >> > Then,
> >> > I
> >> > would back it up on tape when I arrive in the morning.
> >> >
> >> > My dilemma is, timing.  I start my remote backup around 10:30 p.m.  It
> >> > backs
> >> > 4 remote servers in the following order:  TS1, TS2, IIS, EXCHANGE
> >> >
> >> > By the time it reaches Exchange, users are on the system (we have users 
> >> > in
> >> > the EST, CMT, and PST time zones) .  Is it possible to backup the
> >> > Information
> >> > Store and Shadow Copy while users are logged in?  Could this cause an
> >> > issue?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> 
> 
>
date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:47:23 -0700   author:   teenzbutler

Re: Exchange Backup Failing   
Information Store and Shadow Copy. Mailbox backups don't know - not 
supported by Microsoft. I would check Veritas docs.

"teenzbutler"  wrote in message 
news:FFE43DE2-81FB-4F17-9CDD-62C68C4A659D@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for you reply.  I have a 36/72 gig tape drive.  It would be
> sufficient, however, I back up three other servers on this tape as well. 
> So
> I thought it would be ideal to backup the Exchange to a network drive, 
> then
> when I get in, back it onto a new tape.
>
> The "Agent for Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server" appears to be licensed and
> installed on my Veritas Server.  So does this means I can perform a backup 
> of
> the Mail Boxes, Info Store and Shadow Copy while users are on the system?
>
> "Kevin Longley" wrote:
>
>> No - there is a specific exchange agent option from veritas. Within BE 
>> check
>> where the serial numbers are entered and you should see it there if it is
>> installed. You can also look at the backup log which shows if the agent 
>> is
>> being used during the exchange backups. What size is your tape drive? Are
>> your exchange logs truncating when you perform a full backup of the 
>> exchange
>> information store?
>>
>> "teenzbutler"  wrote in message
>> news:3DE775C8-6798-4C6C-A3F4-6DDD315D9F1B@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for you reply Kevin.  I am not sure if I am using the exchange
>> > agent.
>> > I use the Backup Exec Remote Agent for Windows Servers.  Is this what 
>> > you
>> > are
>> > referring to?
>> >
>> > "Kevin Longley" wrote:
>> >
>> >> If you are using the exchange agent you can perform online backups 
>> >> while
>> >> users are accessing exchange.
>> >>
>> >> "teenzbutler"  wrote in message
>> >> news:6673FFAA-E797-449E-8AA0-C3FBF91252B4@microsoft.com...
>> >> > My Exchange Information Store and Shadow Copy is failing due to
>> >> > insufficient
>> >> > disk space.  When this happens, Veritas prompts for another tape,
>> >> > however,
>> >> > no
>> >> > one is there and it times out and the backup fails.  What I would 
>> >> > like
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > is back the Information Store and Shadow Copy onto a network drive.
>> >> > Then,
>> >> > I
>> >> > would back it up on tape when I arrive in the morning.
>> >> >
>> >> > My dilemma is, timing.  I start my remote backup around 10:30 p.m. 
>> >> > It
>> >> > backs
>> >> > 4 remote servers in the following order:  TS1, TS2, IIS, EXCHANGE
>> >> >
>> >> > By the time it reaches Exchange, users are on the system (we have 
>> >> > users
>> >> > in
>> >> > the EST, CMT, and PST time zones) .  Is it possible to backup the
>> >> > Information
>> >> > Store and Shadow Copy while users are logged in?  Could this cause 
>> >> > an
>> >> > issue?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:48:03 -0400   author:   Kevin Longley

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