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date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:51:26 -0800,
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Exchange -Urgent Setup
Dear All,
1- I have One SMTP Domain Hosted In MY ISP in USA . This SMTP Domain name is
ghie.com.
2- We are company Located Here in USA for about 40 Users.
3- Before, we were working on E-mails By using POP3 Accounts, and we were
working fine without any Problems With MS-OUTLOOK.
4- Now, the Situation is Changed, and we become bigger, and we have now
Branch In LONDON UK.
5- The London People, work on POP3 Account by using MS-Outlook 2003 to
access the Mail server which is Hosted in MY ISP in USA.
6- The USA Office, dicide to deploy Exchange server 2003 Ent.Ed.
7- I refused completely to change the MX Record of My SMTP Domain to MAP to
Me. i prefere to leave as its in MY ISP.
8- So, i deploy POP3 Downloader to collect the Mails from My ISP & give it
to exchange server.
9- Now, All the People, in the Head Office, able to send to any Domains to
out side Normally without any Problems at all , ( Except LONDON Users, they
are not able to send it to them) .
( Egypt Office, are Unable to send to London Users Only ), while London
Users able to send to Egypt Office Without any Problems.
Also, head office, abel to receive from outside as well, without any Problems.
===================================================================
Now, when the Egypt Office user try to send to London user, and all of them
are have the same domain, the messages did not reach for London user, and he
get this error message for him .
" your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipient. the
following recipient could not be reached.
the Email does not exist at the organiztions this message was sent to...
mail.ghie.com # 5.1.1 "
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A- The London user is not in the Active Directory at all.
B- The Exchange server is Not Configure with SMTP Coonetor at all.
C- The Exchange server is Have the Default Recipint Update Policy.
D- The Exchange server Users- they are able to send to all Other doamins
without any Problems at all- except the users in the same domain.
E- the users in Head office are able to receive from Outside , including
London.
the Only Problem is , the Egypt Head office, is unable to send the E-mails
to London users, and he get this error mesage.
i was thinking , the solutions is, i have to create the user - london users-
in the exxchange server, and the user will not get this error message at all,
but How the London user will access his E-mail, while He configured to use
POP3 which is Hosted in USA ?
I do not want to make any FE/BE At all, & i do not want to change any thing
at all.
------------------
i am thinking of something, i want your opinion .
1- in the Default RUP, i will add another SMTP address and i will make it as
Primary.
2- The Default one will be GHIE.LOCAL for all the users.
3- all the users will have 2 SMTP Address for them as the follwoing :-
M.R@GHIE.COM
m.r@ghie.local
4- i will create SMTP Connector, to route the E-mails of Address space (
GHIE.COM ).
========
so, do you think with this solution, the users in london will be able to
receive e-mails from Egypt Office or not ?
2- what is deffreint between Have 2 RUP with Different SMTP Address in Each
one ? and to have one RUP with 2 SMTP Address.?
Thanks in Advanced.
date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:51:26 -0800
author: Medo_in_Egypt
Re: Exchange -Urgent Setup
If you don't want to change anything at all, then you are left with the
situation as it stands.
There is nothing that can be done without changing anything.
I have no clue why you don't use Exchange as it was intended rather than
trying to make it an impediment to communications in the way that you have.
Your proposed solution will not solve the problem.
1. all users need to have accounts in the AD where Exchange is.
2. Get rid of the POP3 junk.
3. Change the MX so mail is delivered to the Exchange server.
4. Have Outlook connect either directly (US office) or via VPN (PPTP or
IPSEC) or via RPC/HTTPS (no FE is required).
5. Configure Outlook for cached mode to help with bandwidth.
6. Enjoy a functional mail server.
"Medo_in_Egypt" wrote in message
news:70D8F257-75B0-4741-87D2-D5C1E411E7DE@microsoft.com...
> Dear All,
>
> 1- I have One SMTP Domain Hosted In MY ISP in USA . This SMTP Domain name
> is
> ghie.com.
>
> 2- We are company Located Here in USA for about 40 Users.
>
> 3- Before, we were working on E-mails By using POP3 Accounts, and we were
> working fine without any Problems With MS-OUTLOOK.
>
> 4- Now, the Situation is Changed, and we become bigger, and we have now
> Branch In LONDON UK.
>
> 5- The London People, work on POP3 Account by using MS-Outlook 2003 to
> access the Mail server which is Hosted in MY ISP in USA.
>
>
> 6- The USA Office, dicide to deploy Exchange server 2003 Ent.Ed.
>
> 7- I refused completely to change the MX Record of My SMTP Domain to MAP
> to
> Me. i prefere to leave as its in MY ISP.
>
> 8- So, i deploy POP3 Downloader to collect the Mails from My ISP & give it
> to exchange server.
>
>
> 9- Now, All the People, in the Head Office, able to send to any Domains to
> out side Normally without any Problems at all , ( Except LONDON Users,
> they
> are not able to send it to them) .
>
> ( Egypt Office, are Unable to send to London Users Only ), while London
> Users able to send to Egypt Office Without any Problems.
>
> Also, head office, abel to receive from outside as well, without any
> Problems.
> ===================================================================
>
> Now, when the Egypt Office user try to send to London user, and all of
> them
> are have the same domain, the messages did not reach for London user, and
> he
> get this error message for him .
>
> " your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipient. the
> following recipient could not be reached.
> the Email does not exist at the organiztions this message was sent to...
> mail.ghie.com # 5.1.1 "
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> A- The London user is not in the Active Directory at all.
> B- The Exchange server is Not Configure with SMTP Coonetor at all.
> C- The Exchange server is Have the Default Recipint Update Policy.
> D- The Exchange server Users- they are able to send to all Other doamins
> without any Problems at all- except the users in the same domain.
> E- the users in Head office are able to receive from Outside , including
> London.
>
> the Only Problem is , the Egypt Head office, is unable to send the E-mails
> to London users, and he get this error mesage.
>
> i was thinking , the solutions is, i have to create the user - london
> users-
> in the exxchange server, and the user will not get this error message at
> all,
> but How the London user will access his E-mail, while He configured to
> use
> POP3 which is Hosted in USA ?
>
> I do not want to make any FE/BE At all, & i do not want to change any
> thing
> at all.
>
> ------------------
>
> i am thinking of something, i want your opinion .
>
> 1- in the Default RUP, i will add another SMTP address and i will make it
> as
> Primary.
> 2- The Default one will be GHIE.LOCAL for all the users.
> 3- all the users will have 2 SMTP Address for them as the follwoing :-
>
> M.R@GHIE.COM
> m.r@ghie.local
>
> 4- i will create SMTP Connector, to route the E-mails of Address space (
> GHIE.COM ).
>
> ========
>
> so, do you think with this solution, the users in london will be able to
> receive e-mails from Egypt Office or not ?
>
> 2- what is deffreint between Have 2 RUP with Different SMTP Address in
> Each
> one ? and to have one RUP with 2 SMTP Address.?
>
> Thanks in Advanced.
>
>
date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:50:58 -0600
author: andy webb
Re: Exchange -Urgent Setup
thanks man,
i prefere to use my situation as its, so can you help please .
"andy webb" wrote:
> If you don't want to change anything at all, then you are left with the
> situation as it stands.
>
> There is nothing that can be done without changing anything.
>
> I have no clue why you don't use Exchange as it was intended rather than
> trying to make it an impediment to communications in the way that you have.
>
> Your proposed solution will not solve the problem.
>
> 1. all users need to have accounts in the AD where Exchange is.
> 2. Get rid of the POP3 junk.
> 3. Change the MX so mail is delivered to the Exchange server.
> 4. Have Outlook connect either directly (US office) or via VPN (PPTP or
> IPSEC) or via RPC/HTTPS (no FE is required).
> 5. Configure Outlook for cached mode to help with bandwidth.
> 6. Enjoy a functional mail server.
>
> "Medo_in_Egypt" wrote in message
> news:70D8F257-75B0-4741-87D2-D5C1E411E7DE@microsoft.com...
> > Dear All,
> >
> > 1- I have One SMTP Domain Hosted In MY ISP in USA . This SMTP Domain name
> > is
> > ghie.com.
> >
> > 2- We are company Located Here in USA for about 40 Users.
> >
> > 3- Before, we were working on E-mails By using POP3 Accounts, and we were
> > working fine without any Problems With MS-OUTLOOK.
> >
> > 4- Now, the Situation is Changed, and we become bigger, and we have now
> > Branch In LONDON UK.
> >
> > 5- The London People, work on POP3 Account by using MS-Outlook 2003 to
> > access the Mail server which is Hosted in MY ISP in USA.
> >
> >
> > 6- The USA Office, dicide to deploy Exchange server 2003 Ent.Ed.
> >
> > 7- I refused completely to change the MX Record of My SMTP Domain to MAP
> > to
> > Me. i prefere to leave as its in MY ISP.
> >
> > 8- So, i deploy POP3 Downloader to collect the Mails from My ISP & give it
> > to exchange server.
> >
> >
> > 9- Now, All the People, in the Head Office, able to send to any Domains to
> > out side Normally without any Problems at all , ( Except LONDON Users,
> > they
> > are not able to send it to them) .
> >
> > ( Egypt Office, are Unable to send to London Users Only ), while London
> > Users able to send to Egypt Office Without any Problems.
> >
> > Also, head office, abel to receive from outside as well, without any
> > Problems.
> > ===================================================================
> >
> > Now, when the Egypt Office user try to send to London user, and all of
> > them
> > are have the same domain, the messages did not reach for London user, and
> > he
> > get this error message for him .
> >
> > " your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipient. the
> > following recipient could not be reached.
> > the Email does not exist at the organiztions this message was sent to...
> > mail.ghie.com # 5.1.1 "
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > A- The London user is not in the Active Directory at all.
> > B- The Exchange server is Not Configure with SMTP Coonetor at all.
> > C- The Exchange server is Have the Default Recipint Update Policy.
> > D- The Exchange server Users- they are able to send to all Other doamins
> > without any Problems at all- except the users in the same domain.
> > E- the users in Head office are able to receive from Outside , including
> > London.
> >
> > the Only Problem is , the Egypt Head office, is unable to send the E-mails
> > to London users, and he get this error mesage.
> >
> > i was thinking , the solutions is, i have to create the user - london
> > users-
> > in the exxchange server, and the user will not get this error message at
> > all,
> > but How the London user will access his E-mail, while He configured to
> > use
> > POP3 which is Hosted in USA ?
> >
> > I do not want to make any FE/BE At all, & i do not want to change any
> > thing
> > at all.
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > i am thinking of something, i want your opinion .
> >
> > 1- in the Default RUP, i will add another SMTP address and i will make it
> > as
> > Primary.
> > 2- The Default one will be GHIE.LOCAL for all the users.
> > 3- all the users will have 2 SMTP Address for them as the follwoing :-
> >
> > M.R@GHIE.COM
> > m.r@ghie.local
> >
> > 4- i will create SMTP Connector, to route the E-mails of Address space (
> > GHIE.COM ).
> >
> > ========
> >
> > so, do you think with this solution, the users in london will be able to
> > receive e-mails from Egypt Office or not ?
> >
> > 2- what is deffreint between Have 2 RUP with Different SMTP Address in
> > Each
> > one ? and to have one RUP with 2 SMTP Address.?
> >
> > Thanks in Advanced.
> >
> >
>
>
>
date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:50:26 -0800
author: Medo_in_Egypt
Re: Exchange -Urgent Setup
You really need to do what Andy says to get this to work. If you don't want
to change anything, you are still left with something that does not work.
It really doesn't make any sense to deploy Exchange and have your MX record
point somewhere else, then download the mail via POP3 back into Exchange.
"Medo_in_Egypt" wrote in message
news:F8623F29-F895-4FBD-8F60-4580DE5EE99C@microsoft.com...
> thanks man,
>
> i prefere to use my situation as its, so can you help please .
>
> "andy webb" wrote:
>
>> If you don't want to change anything at all, then you are left with the
>> situation as it stands.
>>
>> There is nothing that can be done without changing anything.
>>
>> I have no clue why you don't use Exchange as it was intended rather than
>> trying to make it an impediment to communications in the way that you
>> have.
>>
>> Your proposed solution will not solve the problem.
>>
>> 1. all users need to have accounts in the AD where Exchange is.
>> 2. Get rid of the POP3 junk.
>> 3. Change the MX so mail is delivered to the Exchange server.
>> 4. Have Outlook connect either directly (US office) or via VPN (PPTP or
>> IPSEC) or via RPC/HTTPS (no FE is required).
>> 5. Configure Outlook for cached mode to help with bandwidth.
>> 6. Enjoy a functional mail server.
>>
>> "Medo_in_Egypt" wrote in message
>> news:70D8F257-75B0-4741-87D2-D5C1E411E7DE@microsoft.com...
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > 1- I have One SMTP Domain Hosted In MY ISP in USA . This SMTP Domain
>> > name
>> > is
>> > ghie.com.
>> >
>> > 2- We are company Located Here in USA for about 40 Users.
>> >
>> > 3- Before, we were working on E-mails By using POP3 Accounts, and we
>> > were
>> > working fine without any Problems With MS-OUTLOOK.
>> >
>> > 4- Now, the Situation is Changed, and we become bigger, and we have now
>> > Branch In LONDON UK.
>> >
>> > 5- The London People, work on POP3 Account by using MS-Outlook 2003 to
>> > access the Mail server which is Hosted in MY ISP in USA.
>> >
>> >
>> > 6- The USA Office, dicide to deploy Exchange server 2003 Ent.Ed.
>> >
>> > 7- I refused completely to change the MX Record of My SMTP Domain to
>> > MAP
>> > to
>> > Me. i prefere to leave as its in MY ISP.
>> >
>> > 8- So, i deploy POP3 Downloader to collect the Mails from My ISP & give
>> > it
>> > to exchange server.
>> >
>> >
>> > 9- Now, All the People, in the Head Office, able to send to any Domains
>> > to
>> > out side Normally without any Problems at all , ( Except LONDON Users,
>> > they
>> > are not able to send it to them) .
>> >
>> > ( Egypt Office, are Unable to send to London Users Only ), while
>> > London
>> > Users able to send to Egypt Office Without any Problems.
>> >
>> > Also, head office, abel to receive from outside as well, without any
>> > Problems.
>> > ===================================================================
>> >
>> > Now, when the Egypt Office user try to send to London user, and all of
>> > them
>> > are have the same domain, the messages did not reach for London user,
>> > and
>> > he
>> > get this error message for him .
>> >
>> > " your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipient. the
>> > following recipient could not be reached.
>> > the Email does not exist at the organiztions this message was sent
>> > to...
>> > mail.ghie.com # 5.1.1 "
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > A- The London user is not in the Active Directory at all.
>> > B- The Exchange server is Not Configure with SMTP Coonetor at all.
>> > C- The Exchange server is Have the Default Recipint Update Policy.
>> > D- The Exchange server Users- they are able to send to all Other
>> > doamins
>> > without any Problems at all- except the users in the same domain.
>> > E- the users in Head office are able to receive from Outside ,
>> > including
>> > London.
>> >
>> > the Only Problem is , the Egypt Head office, is unable to send the
>> > E-mails
>> > to London users, and he get this error mesage.
>> >
>> > i was thinking , the solutions is, i have to create the user - london
>> > users-
>> > in the exxchange server, and the user will not get this error message
>> > at
>> > all,
>> > but How the London user will access his E-mail, while He configured to
>> > use
>> > POP3 which is Hosted in USA ?
>> >
>> > I do not want to make any FE/BE At all, & i do not want to change any
>> > thing
>> > at all.
>> >
>> > ------------------
>> >
>> > i am thinking of something, i want your opinion .
>> >
>> > 1- in the Default RUP, i will add another SMTP address and i will make
>> > it
>> > as
>> > Primary.
>> > 2- The Default one will be GHIE.LOCAL for all the users.
>> > 3- all the users will have 2 SMTP Address for them as the follwoing :-
>> >
>> > M.R@GHIE.COM
>> > m.r@ghie.local
>> >
>> > 4- i will create SMTP Connector, to route the E-mails of Address space
>> > (
>> > GHIE.COM ).
>> >
>> > ========
>> >
>> > so, do you think with this solution, the users in london will be able
>> > to
>> > receive e-mails from Egypt Office or not ?
>> >
>> > 2- what is deffreint between Have 2 RUP with Different SMTP Address in
>> > Each
>> > one ? and to have one RUP with 2 SMTP Address.?
>> >
>> > Thanks in Advanced.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:20:56 -0600
author: Bill itprofessional0812_at_remove_yahoo.com
Re: Exchange -Urgent Setup
I agree with Andy and Bill. If you use Exchange as it was intended it will
make your life easier as your organization continues to grow. All accounts
should be listed within Active Directory. If you setup your email server with
Exchange at each location you can then setup RPC over HTTP which works
beautifully once configured properly. That is the setup that I presently have
at my organization and I work for and ISP here in the States. Take a look
here: http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/outlookrpchttp.html I found the
information to be extremly helpful for Outlook client configuration.
matrixx2k- MCP, MCSA, MCSE
"Bill" wrote:
> You really need to do what Andy says to get this to work. If you don't want
> to change anything, you are still left with something that does not work.
> It really doesn't make any sense to deploy Exchange and have your MX record
> point somewhere else, then download the mail via POP3 back into Exchange.
>
>
> "Medo_in_Egypt" wrote in message
> news:F8623F29-F895-4FBD-8F60-4580DE5EE99C@microsoft.com...
> > thanks man,
> >
> > i prefere to use my situation as its, so can you help please .
> >
> > "andy webb" wrote:
> >
> >> If you don't want to change anything at all, then you are left with the
> >> situation as it stands.
> >>
> >> There is nothing that can be done without changing anything.
> >>
> >> I have no clue why you don't use Exchange as it was intended rather than
> >> trying to make it an impediment to communications in the way that you
> >> have.
> >>
> >> Your proposed solution will not solve the problem.
> >>
> >> 1. all users need to have accounts in the AD where Exchange is.
> >> 2. Get rid of the POP3 junk.
> >> 3. Change the MX so mail is delivered to the Exchange server.
> >> 4. Have Outlook connect either directly (US office) or via VPN (PPTP or
> >> IPSEC) or via RPC/HTTPS (no FE is required).
> >> 5. Configure Outlook for cached mode to help with bandwidth.
> >> 6. Enjoy a functional mail server.
> >>
> >> "Medo_in_Egypt" wrote in message
> >> news:70D8F257-75B0-4741-87D2-D5C1E411E7DE@microsoft.com...
> >> > Dear All,
> >> >
> >> > 1- I have One SMTP Domain Hosted In MY ISP in USA . This SMTP Domain
> >> > name
> >> > is
> >> > ghie.com.
> >> >
> >> > 2- We are company Located Here in USA for about 40 Users.
> >> >
> >> > 3- Before, we were working on E-mails By using POP3 Accounts, and we
> >> > were
> >> > working fine without any Problems With MS-OUTLOOK.
> >> >
> >> > 4- Now, the Situation is Changed, and we become bigger, and we have now
> >> > Branch In LONDON UK.
> >> >
> >> > 5- The London People, work on POP3 Account by using MS-Outlook 2003 to
> >> > access the Mail server which is Hosted in MY ISP in USA.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 6- The USA Office, dicide to deploy Exchange server 2003 Ent.Ed.
> >> >
> >> > 7- I refused completely to change the MX Record of My SMTP Domain to
> >> > MAP
> >> > to
> >> > Me. i prefere to leave as its in MY ISP.
> >> >
> >> > 8- So, i deploy POP3 Downloader to collect the Mails from My ISP & give
> >> > it
> >> > to exchange server.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 9- Now, All the People, in the Head Office, able to send to any Domains
> >> > to
> >> > out side Normally without any Problems at all , ( Except LONDON Users,
> >> > they
> >> > are not able to send it to them) .
> >> >
> >> > ( Egypt Office, are Unable to send to London Users Only ), while
> >> > London
> >> > Users able to send to Egypt Office Without any Problems.
> >> >
> >> > Also, head office, abel to receive from outside as well, without any
> >> > Problems.
> >> > ===================================================================
> >> >
> >> > Now, when the Egypt Office user try to send to London user, and all of
> >> > them
> >> > are have the same domain, the messages did not reach for London user,
> >> > and
> >> > he
> >> > get this error message for him .
> >> >
> >> > " your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipient. the
> >> > following recipient could not be reached.
> >> > the Email does not exist at the organiztions this message was sent
> >> > to...
> >> > mail.ghie.com # 5.1.1 "
> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > A- The London user is not in the Active Directory at all.
> >> > B- The Exchange server is Not Configure with SMTP Coonetor at all.
> >> > C- The Exchange server is Have the Default Recipint Update Policy.
> >> > D- The Exchange server Users- they are able to send to all Other
> >> > doamins
> >> > without any Problems at all- except the users in the same domain.
> >> > E- the users in Head office are able to receive from Outside ,
> >> > including
> >> > London.
> >> >
> >> > the Only Problem is , the Egypt Head office, is unable to send the
> >> > E-mails
> >> > to London users, and he get this error mesage.
> >> >
> >> > i was thinking , the solutions is, i have to create the user - london
> >> > users-
> >> > in the exxchange server, and the user will not get this error message
> >> > at
> >> > all,
> >> > but How the London user will access his E-mail, while He configured to
> >> > use
> >> > POP3 which is Hosted in USA ?
> >> >
> >> > I do not want to make any FE/BE At all, & i do not want to change any
> >> > thing
> >> > at all.
> >> >
> >> > ------------------
> >> >
> >> > i am thinking of something, i want your opinion .
> >> >
> >> > 1- in the Default RUP, i will add another SMTP address and i will make
> >> > it
> >> > as
> >> > Primary.
> >> > 2- The Default one will be GHIE.LOCAL for all the users.
> >> > 3- all the users will have 2 SMTP Address for them as the follwoing :-
> >> >
> >> > M.R@GHIE.COM
> >> > m.r@ghie.local
> >> >
> >> > 4- i will create SMTP Connector, to route the E-mails of Address space
> >> > (
> >> > GHIE.COM ).
> >> >
> >> > ========
> >> >
> >> > so, do you think with this solution, the users in london will be able
> >> > to
> >> > receive e-mails from Egypt Office or not ?
> >> >
> >> > 2- what is deffreint between Have 2 RUP with Different SMTP Address in
> >> > Each
> >> > one ? and to have one RUP with 2 SMTP Address.?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in Advanced.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 12:59:01 -0700
author: matrixx2k
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