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date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:02:02 -0800,    group: microsoft.public.exchange2000.active.directory.integration        back       


Upgrading two W2K DCs to W2003 DCs   
I have two W2K SP4 DCs (SERVER1 and SERVER2) and want to upgrade to W2003:
-  SERVER1 has the following roles: PDC, RID, Infrastructure
-  SERVER2 has the following roles: Schema, Operations

1. What server should I upgrade first or does it matter?  Can I do one at a 
time or do you suggest doing both at the same time?
2. On what server do i need to run the adprep /forestprep and /domainprep 
on?  Or do I run both commands on both DCs?
3. I have front end and back-end Exchange 2000 SP3 servers running W2K SP4.  
Any issues after upgrading the DCs that will impact the exchange servers?
Thanks for your help.
Frank
date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:02:02 -0800   author:   IVT

Re: Upgrading two W2K DCs to W2003 DCs   
Hi,

First you will need to read this and do something to avoid mangled 
attributes: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314649/en-us

Windows adprep /forestprep should be run on the schema master.
Windows adprep /domainprep should be run on the infrastructure  master

Apart from the article mentioned in the beginning there should be no isues 
running exchange 2000 in a windows 2003 domain.

Leif


"IVT"  wrote in message 
news:9522A67B-BB55-4B2F-B599-E4123805D98D@microsoft.com...
>I have two W2K SP4 DCs (SERVER1 and SERVER2) and want to upgrade to W2003:
> -  SERVER1 has the following roles: PDC, RID, Infrastructure
> -  SERVER2 has the following roles: Schema, Operations
>
> 1. What server should I upgrade first or does it matter?  Can I do one at 
> a
> time or do you suggest doing both at the same time?
> 2. On what server do i need to run the adprep /forestprep and /domainprep
> on?  Or do I run both commands on both DCs?
> 3. I have front end and back-end Exchange 2000 SP3 servers running W2K 
> SP4.
> Any issues after upgrading the DCs that will impact the exchange servers?
> Thanks for your help.
> Frank
date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:51:10 +0100   author:   Leif Pedersen [MVP]

Re: Upgrading two W2K DCs to W2003 DCs   
Thanks. So, I can upgrade one DC at a time or do I need to do both at the 
same time?


"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> First you will need to read this and do something to avoid mangled 
> attributes: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314649/en-us
> 
> Windows adprep /forestprep should be run on the schema master.
> Windows adprep /domainprep should be run on the infrastructure  master
> 
> Apart from the article mentioned in the beginning there should be no isues 
> running exchange 2000 in a windows 2003 domain.
> 
> Leif
> 
> 
> "IVT"  wrote in message 
> news:9522A67B-BB55-4B2F-B599-E4123805D98D@microsoft.com...
> >I have two W2K SP4 DCs (SERVER1 and SERVER2) and want to upgrade to W2003:
> > -  SERVER1 has the following roles: PDC, RID, Infrastructure
> > -  SERVER2 has the following roles: Schema, Operations
> >
> > 1. What server should I upgrade first or does it matter?  Can I do one at 
> > a
> > time or do you suggest doing both at the same time?
> > 2. On what server do i need to run the adprep /forestprep and /domainprep
> > on?  Or do I run both commands on both DCs?
> > 3. I have front end and back-end Exchange 2000 SP3 servers running W2K 
> > SP4.
> > Any issues after upgrading the DCs that will impact the exchange servers?
> > Thanks for your help.
> > Frank 
> 
> 
>
date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:23:07 -0800   author:   IVT

Re: Upgrading two W2K DCs to W2003 DCs   
Hi,

You can upgrade one at the time. 2000 and 2003 domain controllers can 
coexist without any problems.

Leif

"IVT"  wrote in message 
news:113FA525-6E6C-4C4E-BA90-7D79C59C516F@microsoft.com...
> Thanks. So, I can upgrade one DC at a time or do I need to do both at the
> same time?
>
>
> "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> First you will need to read this and do something to avoid mangled
>> attributes: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314649/en-us
>>
>> Windows adprep /forestprep should be run on the schema master.
>> Windows adprep /domainprep should be run on the infrastructure  master
>>
>> Apart from the article mentioned in the beginning there should be no 
>> isues
>> running exchange 2000 in a windows 2003 domain.
>>
>> Leif
>>
>>
>> "IVT"  wrote in message
>> news:9522A67B-BB55-4B2F-B599-E4123805D98D@microsoft.com...
>> >I have two W2K SP4 DCs (SERVER1 and SERVER2) and want to upgrade to 
>> >W2003:
>> > -  SERVER1 has the following roles: PDC, RID, Infrastructure
>> > -  SERVER2 has the following roles: Schema, Operations
>> >
>> > 1. What server should I upgrade first or does it matter?  Can I do one 
>> > at
>> > a
>> > time or do you suggest doing both at the same time?
>> > 2. On what server do i need to run the adprep /forestprep and 
>> > /domainprep
>> > on?  Or do I run both commands on both DCs?
>> > 3. I have front end and back-end Exchange 2000 SP3 servers running W2K
>> > SP4.
>> > Any issues after upgrading the DCs that will impact the exchange 
>> > servers?
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> > Frank
>>
>>
>>
date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:10:25 +0100   author:   Leif Pedersen [MVP]

Re: Upgrading two W2K DCs to W2003 DCs   
Regarding the mangled attribute doc.  Just want to clear on what scenario 
applies. Since my exch 2000 and DCs are all at W2k SP4 currently I would do 
Scenario #2 (Exch 2000 Schema Changes are installed before you run win 2003 
adprep / forestprep command) correct?  Can the mangled attribute piece be 
done at any time prior or does it have to be done right before I do the 
actual upgrade?
Thanks much for your help.
fv

"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You can upgrade one at the time. 2000 and 2003 domain controllers can 
> coexist without any problems.
> 
> Leif
> 
> "IVT"  wrote in message 
> news:113FA525-6E6C-4C4E-BA90-7D79C59C516F@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks. So, I can upgrade one DC at a time or do I need to do both at the
> > same time?
> >
> >
> > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> First you will need to read this and do something to avoid mangled
> >> attributes: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314649/en-us
> >>
> >> Windows adprep /forestprep should be run on the schema master.
> >> Windows adprep /domainprep should be run on the infrastructure  master
> >>
> >> Apart from the article mentioned in the beginning there should be no 
> >> isues
> >> running exchange 2000 in a windows 2003 domain.
> >>
> >> Leif
> >>
> >>
> >> "IVT"  wrote in message
> >> news:9522A67B-BB55-4B2F-B599-E4123805D98D@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have two W2K SP4 DCs (SERVER1 and SERVER2) and want to upgrade to 
> >> >W2003:
> >> > -  SERVER1 has the following roles: PDC, RID, Infrastructure
> >> > -  SERVER2 has the following roles: Schema, Operations
> >> >
> >> > 1. What server should I upgrade first or does it matter?  Can I do one 
> >> > at
> >> > a
> >> > time or do you suggest doing both at the same time?
> >> > 2. On what server do i need to run the adprep /forestprep and 
> >> > /domainprep
> >> > on?  Or do I run both commands on both DCs?
> >> > 3. I have front end and back-end Exchange 2000 SP3 servers running W2K
> >> > SP4.
> >> > Any issues after upgrading the DCs that will impact the exchange 
> >> > servers?
> >> > Thanks for your help.
> >> > Frank
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> 
> 
>
date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:05:02 -0800   author:   IVT

Re: Upgrading two W2K DCs to W2003 DCs   
Hi,

The mangled attributes piece can be run at any time before running the 
adprep command.

Leif

"IVT"  wrote in message 
news:B9041177-7C6D-4E52-A93C-304BEF7CE22B@microsoft.com...
> Regarding the mangled attribute doc.  Just want to clear on what scenario
> applies. Since my exch 2000 and DCs are all at W2k SP4 currently I would 
> do
> Scenario #2 (Exch 2000 Schema Changes are installed before you run win 
> 2003
> adprep / forestprep command) correct?  Can the mangled attribute piece be
> done at any time prior or does it have to be done right before I do the
> actual upgrade?
> Thanks much for your help.
> fv
>
> "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You can upgrade one at the time. 2000 and 2003 domain controllers can
>> coexist without any problems.
>>
>> Leif
>>
>> "IVT"  wrote in message
>> news:113FA525-6E6C-4C4E-BA90-7D79C59C516F@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks. So, I can upgrade one DC at a time or do I need to do both at 
>> > the
>> > same time?
>> >
>> >
>> > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> First you will need to read this and do something to avoid mangled
>> >> attributes: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314649/en-us
>> >>
>> >> Windows adprep /forestprep should be run on the schema master.
>> >> Windows adprep /domainprep should be run on the infrastructure  master
>> >>
>> >> Apart from the article mentioned in the beginning there should be no
>> >> isues
>> >> running exchange 2000 in a windows 2003 domain.
>> >>
>> >> Leif
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "IVT"  wrote in message
>> >> news:9522A67B-BB55-4B2F-B599-E4123805D98D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have two W2K SP4 DCs (SERVER1 and SERVER2) and want to upgrade to
>> >> >W2003:
>> >> > -  SERVER1 has the following roles: PDC, RID, Infrastructure
>> >> > -  SERVER2 has the following roles: Schema, Operations
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. What server should I upgrade first or does it matter?  Can I do 
>> >> > one
>> >> > at
>> >> > a
>> >> > time or do you suggest doing both at the same time?
>> >> > 2. On what server do i need to run the adprep /forestprep and
>> >> > /domainprep
>> >> > on?  Or do I run both commands on both DCs?
>> >> > 3. I have front end and back-end Exchange 2000 SP3 servers running 
>> >> > W2K
>> >> > SP4.
>> >> > Any issues after upgrading the DCs that will impact the exchange
>> >> > servers?
>> >> > Thanks for your help.
>> >> > Frank
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:05:41 +0100   author:   Leif Pedersen [MVP]

Re: Upgrading two W2K DCs to W2003 DCs   
So I can run that on the server now even though I'm not upgrading for awhile 
correct?
I would like to test all of this on a test server prior to doing the 
upgrade.  What's the best way test all of this on an isolated test server 
(same name etc).   I tried backing up the system state from an existing DC 
and restoring it on a test server but it fails on restart I think because it 
grabs all the registry and everything.  I just want to simulate having all 
the AD and DNS stuff on it.
Thanks much for all of your help.
fv

"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The mangled attributes piece can be run at any time before running the 
> adprep command.
> 
> Leif
> 
> "IVT"  wrote in message 
> news:B9041177-7C6D-4E52-A93C-304BEF7CE22B@microsoft.com...
> > Regarding the mangled attribute doc.  Just want to clear on what scenario
> > applies. Since my exch 2000 and DCs are all at W2k SP4 currently I would 
> > do
> > Scenario #2 (Exch 2000 Schema Changes are installed before you run win 
> > 2003
> > adprep / forestprep command) correct?  Can the mangled attribute piece be
> > done at any time prior or does it have to be done right before I do the
> > actual upgrade?
> > Thanks much for your help.
> > fv
> >
> > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> You can upgrade one at the time. 2000 and 2003 domain controllers can
> >> coexist without any problems.
> >>
> >> Leif
> >>
> >> "IVT"  wrote in message
> >> news:113FA525-6E6C-4C4E-BA90-7D79C59C516F@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks. So, I can upgrade one DC at a time or do I need to do both at 
> >> > the
> >> > same time?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> First you will need to read this and do something to avoid mangled
> >> >> attributes: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314649/en-us
> >> >>
> >> >> Windows adprep /forestprep should be run on the schema master.
> >> >> Windows adprep /domainprep should be run on the infrastructure  master
> >> >>
> >> >> Apart from the article mentioned in the beginning there should be no
> >> >> isues
> >> >> running exchange 2000 in a windows 2003 domain.
> >> >>
> >> >> Leif
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "IVT"  wrote in message
> >> >> news:9522A67B-BB55-4B2F-B599-E4123805D98D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have two W2K SP4 DCs (SERVER1 and SERVER2) and want to upgrade to
> >> >> >W2003:
> >> >> > -  SERVER1 has the following roles: PDC, RID, Infrastructure
> >> >> > -  SERVER2 has the following roles: Schema, Operations
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1. What server should I upgrade first or does it matter?  Can I do 
> >> >> > one
> >> >> > at
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > time or do you suggest doing both at the same time?
> >> >> > 2. On what server do i need to run the adprep /forestprep and
> >> >> > /domainprep
> >> >> > on?  Or do I run both commands on both DCs?
> >> >> > 3. I have front end and back-end Exchange 2000 SP3 servers running 
> >> >> > W2K
> >> >> > SP4.
> >> >> > Any issues after upgrading the DCs that will impact the exchange
> >> >> > servers?
> >> >> > Thanks for your help.
> >> >> > Frank
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> 
> 
>
date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:06:27 -0800   author:   IVT

Re: Upgrading two W2K DCs to W2003 DCs   
Hi,

You can fix the mangled attributes now and wait with the adprep for several 
months / years if you so desire.


It should be possible to make a disaster recovery setup of a domain 
controller in a closed test network. There might however be a problem 
getting the domain controller role to work - see if this helps: 
http://groups.google.dk/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.active_directory/browse_thread/thread/4f33cb700c2bb30c/3732859221d35cb1?lnk=st&q=restore+single+domain+controller+windows&rnum=3&hl=da#3732859221d35cb1

Leif

"IVT"  wrote in message 
news:6A9AC6A0-AE53-4D2C-A408-605E929AB855@microsoft.com...
> So I can run that on the server now even though I'm not upgrading for 
> awhile
> correct?
> I would like to test all of this on a test server prior to doing the
> upgrade.  What's the best way test all of this on an isolated test server
> (same name etc).   I tried backing up the system state from an existing DC
> and restoring it on a test server but it fails on restart I think because 
> it
> grabs all the registry and everything.  I just want to simulate having all
> the AD and DNS stuff on it.
> Thanks much for all of your help.
> fv
>
> "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The mangled attributes piece can be run at any time before running the
>> adprep command.
>>
>> Leif
>>
>> "IVT"  wrote in message
>> news:B9041177-7C6D-4E52-A93C-304BEF7CE22B@microsoft.com...
>> > Regarding the mangled attribute doc.  Just want to clear on what 
>> > scenario
>> > applies. Since my exch 2000 and DCs are all at W2k SP4 currently I 
>> > would
>> > do
>> > Scenario #2 (Exch 2000 Schema Changes are installed before you run win
>> > 2003
>> > adprep / forestprep command) correct?  Can the mangled attribute piece 
>> > be
>> > done at any time prior or does it have to be done right before I do the
>> > actual upgrade?
>> > Thanks much for your help.
>> > fv
>> >
>> > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> You can upgrade one at the time. 2000 and 2003 domain controllers can
>> >> coexist without any problems.
>> >>
>> >> Leif
>> >>
>> >> "IVT"  wrote in message
>> >> news:113FA525-6E6C-4C4E-BA90-7D79C59C516F@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks. So, I can upgrade one DC at a time or do I need to do both 
>> >> > at
>> >> > the
>> >> > same time?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> First you will need to read this and do something to avoid mangled
>> >> >> attributes: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314649/en-us
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Windows adprep /forestprep should be run on the schema master.
>> >> >> Windows adprep /domainprep should be run on the infrastructure 
>> >> >> master
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Apart from the article mentioned in the beginning there should be 
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> isues
>> >> >> running exchange 2000 in a windows 2003 domain.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Leif
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "IVT"  wrote in message
>> >> >> news:9522A67B-BB55-4B2F-B599-E4123805D98D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I have two W2K SP4 DCs (SERVER1 and SERVER2) and want to upgrade 
>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >W2003:
>> >> >> > -  SERVER1 has the following roles: PDC, RID, Infrastructure
>> >> >> > -  SERVER2 has the following roles: Schema, Operations
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1. What server should I upgrade first or does it matter?  Can I 
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > one
>> >> >> > at
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > time or do you suggest doing both at the same time?
>> >> >> > 2. On what server do i need to run the adprep /forestprep and
>> >> >> > /domainprep
>> >> >> > on?  Or do I run both commands on both DCs?
>> >> >> > 3. I have front end and back-end Exchange 2000 SP3 servers 
>> >> >> > running
>> >> >> > W2K
>> >> >> > SP4.
>> >> >> > Any issues after upgrading the DCs that will impact the exchange
>> >> >> > servers?
>> >> >> > Thanks for your help.
>> >> >> > Frank
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:40:13 +0100   author:   Leif Pedersen [MVP]

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