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date: Fri, 5 May 2006 10:56:39 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.tools        back       


help migrating public folders   
have to migrate public folders from 5.5 to 2003....

is pfmigrate honestly the best way to go? or should i use another tool.... 
maybe one with an actual gui?

any advice will be appreciated
date: Fri, 5 May 2006 10:56:39 -0400   author:   momo

Re: help migrating public folders   
"momo"  wrote in
news:uZhTSPFcGHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: 

> have to migrate public folders from 5.5 to 2003....
> 
> is pfmigrate honestly the best way to go? or should i use another
> tool.... maybe one with an actual gui?

How are you connected between the orgs? Are we talking a massive amount of 
data here? A third party tool may be indicated.

Regards,

-- 
R. Arlo Clizer
FAQ: http://www.exchangefaq.org
Archives: http://groups.google.com
date: Fri, 05 May 2006 08:23:46 -0700   author:   Arlo Clizer

Re: help migrating public folders   
orgs are on the same LAN but yes, there are a large amount of PF's....
if a 3rd party tool, what would you recommend? are there any free utilities?



"Arlo Clizer"  wrote in message 
news:Xns97BA556973D6Ctrojanxl@207.46.248.16...
> "momo"  wrote in
> news:uZhTSPFcGHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>
>> have to migrate public folders from 5.5 to 2003....
>>
>> is pfmigrate honestly the best way to go? or should i use another
>> tool.... maybe one with an actual gui?
>
> How are you connected between the orgs? Are we talking a massive amount of
> data here? A third party tool may be indicated.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- 
> R. Arlo Clizer
> FAQ: http://www.exchangefaq.org
> Archives: http://groups.google.com
date: Fri, 5 May 2006 11:37:13 -0400   author:   momo

Re: help migrating public folders   
then PFmigraste is the answer , did u face any problem from using it ?

another solution, but it will take time, is to allow the replication of 
Public Folder between your 5.5 and 2003, by adding your 2003 under the 
replica set of the properties of each public folder under your 5.5, as i 
understood from you that you have huge public folders data.

what is your problem with PFMigrate utility ?

Regards

Alaa Alian Al-Ankar
Blog: http://ExchGuru.Blogspot.com

"momo"  wrote in message 
news:ObZ2%23lFcGHA.380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> orgs are on the same LAN but yes, there are a large amount of PF's....
> if a 3rd party tool, what would you recommend? are there any free 
> utilities?
>
>
>
> "Arlo Clizer"  wrote in message 
> news:Xns97BA556973D6Ctrojanxl@207.46.248.16...
>> "momo"  wrote in
>> news:uZhTSPFcGHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> have to migrate public folders from 5.5 to 2003....
>>>
>>> is pfmigrate honestly the best way to go? or should i use another
>>> tool.... maybe one with an actual gui?
>>
>> How are you connected between the orgs? Are we talking a massive amount 
>> of
>> data here? A third party tool may be indicated.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -- 
>> R. Arlo Clizer
>> FAQ: http://www.exchangefaq.org
>> Archives: http://groups.google.com
>
>
date: Sun, 7 May 2006 22:59:09 +0300   author:   Alaa Alian Al-Ankar

Re: help migrating public folders   
"Alaa Alian Al-Ankar"  wrote:

>then PFmigraste is the answer , did u face any problem from using it ?

I don't think so! PFMigrate works only withing the same organization
and, even more restrictive, within the same routing group. It's not
going be of any help mobing ouble folders between orgainzations!

For that sort of work he'll need the InterOrg Replication Tool.

>another solution, but it will take time, is to allow the replication of 
>Public Folder between your 5.5 and 2003, by adding your 2003 under the 
>replica set of the properties of each public folder under your 5.5, as i 
>understood from you that you have huge public folders data.

That's what PFMigrate does. :)

Contrary to what a lot of people believe, PFMigrate does nothing with
the contents of the public folders.

>what is your problem with PFMigrate utility ?

It isn't the right tool for the task.

-- 
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
date: Sun, 07 May 2006 16:48:17 -0400   author:   Rich Matheisen [MVP]

Re: help migrating public folders   
Dear Rich,

Thanks a lot for your reply. i have some comments :

> I don't think so! PFMigrate works only withing the same organization
> and, even more restrictive, within the same routing group. It's not
> going be of any help mobing ouble folders between orgainzations!

First of all, the user didn't mentioned that he has two different 
organization , one for 5.5 and the other for 2003, so my post was based on 
the believe that the customer has 5.5 and 2003 in the same organization, and 
since he has a huge data for public folders he does not want to use the 
normal PF Replication between the two servers, so why should i assume that 
he has two differnet orgs ? for this reason, PFMigrate tools was proposed. 
and where from his post it was mentioned that "I want o mgirate from 5.5 Org 
to 2003 Org" ? it is not mentioned, right ? so my assumption is right , i 
think , please advice.

> That's what PFMigrate does. :)

and this is what i proposed for him :)

>Contrary to what a lot of people believe, PFMigrate does nothing with the 
>contents of the public folders.

PFMigrate migrating the public folders as is from one server to the other , 
am i right ?

>It isn't the right tool for the task.

since he needs to migrate the public folders from 5.5 to 2003 (i assumes 
they are in the sam Org again) he can use PFMigrate utility, am i right too 
?



Regards

Alaa Alian Al-Ankar
Blog: http://ExchGuru.Blospot.com

"Rich Matheisen [MVP]"  wrote in message 
news:l0ns52pcs3b2eqknvfkcbndtifa2a3d1cc@4ax.com...
> "Alaa Alian Al-Ankar"  wrote:
>
>>then PFmigraste is the answer , did u face any problem from using it ?
>
> I don't think so! PFMigrate works only withing the same organization
> and, even more restrictive, within the same routing group. It's not
> going be of any help mobing ouble folders between orgainzations!
>
> For that sort of work he'll need the InterOrg Replication Tool.
>
>>another solution, but it will take time, is to allow the replication of
>>Public Folder between your 5.5 and 2003, by adding your 2003 under the
>>replica set of the properties of each public folder under your 5.5, as i
>>understood from you that you have huge public folders data.
>
> That's what PFMigrate does. :)
>
> Contrary to what a lot of people believe, PFMigrate does nothing with
> the contents of the public folders.
>
>>what is your problem with PFMigrate utility ?
>
> It isn't the right tool for the task.
>
> -- 
> Rich Matheisen
> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com 
> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com 
> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
date: Mon, 8 May 2006 19:21:55 +0300   author:   Alaa Alian Al-Ankar

Re: help migrating public folders   
"Alaa Alian Al-Ankar"  wrote:

					[ snip ]

>> I don't think so! PFMigrate works only withing the same organization
>> and, even more restrictive, within the same routing group. It's not
>> going be of any help mobing ouble folders between orgainzations!
>
>First of all, the user didn't mentioned that he has two different 
>organization , 

From the first line of the message you replied to: "orgs are on the
same LAN".

>one for 5.5 and the other for 2003, so my post was based on 
>the believe that the customer has 5.5 and 2003 in the same organization, and 
>since he has a huge data for public folders he does not want to use the 
>normal PF Replication between the two servers, 

What other type of replication is there between two PF stores?
PFMigrate doesn't move PF content.

>so why should i assume that 
>he has two differnet orgs ? 

Because he said so? That's a pretty good reason!

>for this reason, PFMigrate tools was proposed. 
>and where from his post it was mentioned that "I want o mgirate from 5.5 Org 
>to 2003 Org" ? it is not mentioned, right ? so my assumption is right , i 
>think , please advice.

See above.

>> That's what PFMigrate does. :)
>
>and this is what i proposed for him :)
>
>>Contrary to what a lot of people believe, PFMigrate does nothing with the 
>>contents of the public folders.
>
>PFMigrate migrating the public folders as is from one server to the other , 
>am i right ?

Nope. PFMigrate just modifies the replicas list. You can do the same
thing using the ESM. PFMigrate makes it less tedious. Once the
replicas list is modified it's the normal PF replcation mechanism that
moves the PF contents to the new replicas.

>>It isn't the right tool for the task.
>
>since he needs to migrate the public folders from 5.5 to 2003 (i assumes 
>they are in the sam Org again) he can use PFMigrate utility, am i right too 
>?

If they're in the same organization, and the same routing group, yes.


-- 
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
date: Mon, 08 May 2006 20:17:28 -0400   author:   Rich Matheisen [MVP]

Re: help migrating public folders   
Dear Rich,

you are right, really i didn't read momo's second reply carefully, you are 
right, he mentioned it clearly, i am sorry.

to be honost with you, when i read your reply, i read more about it and i 
got all the information you mentioned. but still i am insists that my post 
or my solution is right if the two exchange servers are exists in the same 
Org :):)

as i read more about PFMigrate, add the new exchange server under the 
replica set of the public folders along with the old server which is 5.5, ? 
and then the public folder store will replicate its content based on these 
replica sets, which contains 5.5 and 2003. so PFMigrate will not actually 
migrate the content of the Public Folders, but it will create the replica 
set for replication to start , right ? in other words, instead of the 
exchange administrator manually adding the new exchange server 2003 under 
the replica set , the PFMigrate tools will do this for him, is this is true 
?

sorry again for the misunderstanding of the post.

Regards
Alaa Alian Al-Ankar
Blog: http://ExchGuru.Blogspot.com

"Rich Matheisen [MVP]"  wrote in message 
news:h9nv525bmm7oqqju4pkgcn69l9fbdmcag1@4ax.com...
> "Alaa Alian Al-Ankar"  wrote:
>
> [ snip ]
>
>>> I don't think so! PFMigrate works only withing the same organization
>>> and, even more restrictive, within the same routing group. It's not
>>> going be of any help mobing ouble folders between orgainzations!
>>
>>First of all, the user didn't mentioned that he has two different
>>organization ,
>
> From the first line of the message you replied to: "orgs are on the
> same LAN".
>
>>one for 5.5 and the other for 2003, so my post was based on
>>the believe that the customer has 5.5 and 2003 in the same organization, 
>>and
>>since he has a huge data for public folders he does not want to use the
>>normal PF Replication between the two servers,
>
> What other type of replication is there between two PF stores?
> PFMigrate doesn't move PF content.
>
>>so why should i assume that
>>he has two differnet orgs ?
>
> Because he said so? That's a pretty good reason!
>
>>for this reason, PFMigrate tools was proposed.
>>and where from his post it was mentioned that "I want o mgirate from 5.5 
>>Org
>>to 2003 Org" ? it is not mentioned, right ? so my assumption is right , i
>>think , please advice.
>
> See above.
>
>>> That's what PFMigrate does. :)
>>
>>and this is what i proposed for him :)
>>
>>>Contrary to what a lot of people believe, PFMigrate does nothing with the
>>>contents of the public folders.
>>
>>PFMigrate migrating the public folders as is from one server to the other 
>>,
>>am i right ?
>
> Nope. PFMigrate just modifies the replicas list. You can do the same
> thing using the ESM. PFMigrate makes it less tedious. Once the
> replicas list is modified it's the normal PF replcation mechanism that
> moves the PF contents to the new replicas.
>
>>>It isn't the right tool for the task.
>>
>>since he needs to migrate the public folders from 5.5 to 2003 (i assumes
>>they are in the sam Org again) he can use PFMigrate utility, am i right 
>>too
>>?
>
> If they're in the same organization, and the same routing group, yes.
>
>
> -- 
> Rich Matheisen
> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com 
> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com 
> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
date: Tue, 9 May 2006 16:00:43 +0300   author:   Alaa Alian Al-Ankar

Re: help migrating public folders   
"Alaa Alian Al-Ankar"  wrote:

>as i read more about PFMigrate, add the new exchange server under the 
>replica set of the public folders along with the old server which is 5.5, ? 
>and then the public folder store will replicate its content based on these 
>replica sets, which contains 5.5 and 2003. so PFMigrate will not actually 
>migrate the content of the Public Folders, but it will create the replica 
>set for replication to start , right ? in other words, instead of the 
>exchange administrator manually adding the new exchange server 2003 under 
>the replica set , the PFMigrate tools will do this for him, is this is true 
>?

Yes. PFMigrate is a labor-saving tool.


-- 
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
date: Tue, 09 May 2006 23:23:25 -0400   author:   Rich Matheisen [MVP]

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