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date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:37:00 -0700,
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Standalone Exchange 2007 installation
Environment:
There are 2 domain controllers and 1 Exchange Server 2003 Standard edition.
All operating systems installed are Windows Server 2003 Standard edition.
2 more servers shall be added in this environment with an external network
storage, on which a Windows Cluster is required to be installed (Windows
Server 2003 Enterprise Edition x64).
This cluster is destined to have highly available the File and Print Server
Roles for a group of ~35 users.
An Exchange Server 2007 Standard Edition is also reqiured to be installed as
a standalone server in coexistence with the Exchange Server 2003 in tha same
organization.
The Exchange 2007 was destined to be installed as a standalone server only
(not in cluster mode) on the first node of the cluster.
Problem:
As we came to find out, the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition is not
allowed to be installed on the first node of the cluster with the Mailbox,
Hub Transport, and Client Access roles.
It only allows you to install an Active or Passive Mailbox role together
with the exchange management tools, which is of course not supported by
Microsoft in a production environment.
So the problem now is that we have an Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition
which cannot be installed in the existing environment, therefore we are
trying to find what are the options to provide a solution and proceed with
the implementation.
Options in question:
- Is there a way to technicallly allow the Exchange Server 2007 Standard
edition to be installed on the first node of the cluster?
- If we use the Exchange Server 2007 Enterprise edition can the the Mailbox,
Hub Transport, and Client Access roles be installed on the first node of the
cluster?
- Can the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition be installed first on one
of the two servers and then install the Windows Cluster?
- As no more machines can be acquired for this environment, can there be a
solution provided without leaving behind the option to install the Windows
Cluster?
date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:37:00 -0700
author: sgavriel
RE: Standalone Exchange 2007 installation
Hi
first of all, it is not possible to install Exchange 2007 std edition on a
clustered windows server!
Then: if you would change your mind to install Exchange enterprise edition
in a clustered environment you would need at least three servers, better four.
2 for clustered mailbox role and the other for hub transport and client
access.
Then: You CAN NOT install Exchange 2007 in a cluster together with other
clustered features like file&print or SQL...
So you only can install Exchange std edition at one of your DCs. That is
technically possible (what your question was) but not recommended by
Microsoft.
In your small environment you could do it anyway.
Henry
"sgavriel" wrote:
> Environment:
> There are 2 domain controllers and 1 Exchange Server 2003 Standard edition.
> All operating systems installed are Windows Server 2003 Standard edition.
>
> 2 more servers shall be added in this environment with an external network
> storage, on which a Windows Cluster is required to be installed (Windows
> Server 2003 Enterprise Edition x64).
> This cluster is destined to have highly available the File and Print Server
> Roles for a group of ~35 users.
>
> An Exchange Server 2007 Standard Edition is also reqiured to be installed as
> a standalone server in coexistence with the Exchange Server 2003 in tha same
> organization.
> The Exchange 2007 was destined to be installed as a standalone server only
> (not in cluster mode) on the first node of the cluster.
>
> Problem:
> As we came to find out, the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition is not
> allowed to be installed on the first node of the cluster with the Mailbox,
> Hub Transport, and Client Access roles.
> It only allows you to install an Active or Passive Mailbox role together
> with the exchange management tools, which is of course not supported by
> Microsoft in a production environment.
>
> So the problem now is that we have an Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition
> which cannot be installed in the existing environment, therefore we are
> trying to find what are the options to provide a solution and proceed with
> the implementation.
>
> Options in question:
> - Is there a way to technicallly allow the Exchange Server 2007 Standard
> edition to be installed on the first node of the cluster?
> - If we use the Exchange Server 2007 Enterprise edition can the the Mailbox,
> Hub Transport, and Client Access roles be installed on the first node of the
> cluster?
> - Can the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition be installed first on one
> of the two servers and then install the Windows Cluster?
> - As no more machines can be acquired for this environment, can there be a
> solution provided without leaving behind the option to install the Windows
> Cluster?
date: Sat, 24 May 2008 07:24:19 -0700
author: Henry
RE: Standalone Exchange 2007 installation
Hi Henry,
thank you for your response.
As I understand from your answers, unless an additional 64bit server is
added in the environment the exchange server 2007 standard edition will not
be able to be installed as a standalone with the Mailbox, Hub Transport and
Client Access roles.
Do you know the link to verify that the additional machine's configuration
is valid for a standalone instalation of Exchange Server 2007 Standard
edition?
"Henry" wrote:
> Hi
> first of all, it is not possible to install Exchange 2007 std edition on a
> clustered windows server!
> Then: if you would change your mind to install Exchange enterprise edition
> in a clustered environment you would need at least three servers, better four.
> 2 for clustered mailbox role and the other for hub transport and client
> access.
> Then: You CAN NOT install Exchange 2007 in a cluster together with other
> clustered features like file&print or SQL...
>
> So you only can install Exchange std edition at one of your DCs. That is
> technically possible (what your question was) but not recommended by
> Microsoft.
> In your small environment you could do it anyway.
>
> Henry
>
>
> "sgavriel" wrote:
>
> > Environment:
> > There are 2 domain controllers and 1 Exchange Server 2003 Standard edition.
> > All operating systems installed are Windows Server 2003 Standard edition.
> >
> > 2 more servers shall be added in this environment with an external network
> > storage, on which a Windows Cluster is required to be installed (Windows
> > Server 2003 Enterprise Edition x64).
> > This cluster is destined to have highly available the File and Print Server
> > Roles for a group of ~35 users.
> >
> > An Exchange Server 2007 Standard Edition is also reqiured to be installed as
> > a standalone server in coexistence with the Exchange Server 2003 in tha same
> > organization.
> > The Exchange 2007 was destined to be installed as a standalone server only
> > (not in cluster mode) on the first node of the cluster.
> >
> > Problem:
> > As we came to find out, the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition is not
> > allowed to be installed on the first node of the cluster with the Mailbox,
> > Hub Transport, and Client Access roles.
> > It only allows you to install an Active or Passive Mailbox role together
> > with the exchange management tools, which is of course not supported by
> > Microsoft in a production environment.
> >
> > So the problem now is that we have an Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition
> > which cannot be installed in the existing environment, therefore we are
> > trying to find what are the options to provide a solution and proceed with
> > the implementation.
> >
> > Options in question:
> > - Is there a way to technicallly allow the Exchange Server 2007 Standard
> > edition to be installed on the first node of the cluster?
> > - If we use the Exchange Server 2007 Enterprise edition can the the Mailbox,
> > Hub Transport, and Client Access roles be installed on the first node of the
> > cluster?
> > - Can the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition be installed first on one
> > of the two servers and then install the Windows Cluster?
> > - As no more machines can be acquired for this environment, can there be a
> > solution provided without leaving behind the option to install the Windows
> > Cluster?
date: Mon, 26 May 2008 03:37:00 -0700
author: sgavriel
RE: Standalone Exchange 2007 installation
Hi
you wrote
- you have 2 Windows Server 2003 DC (you cannot install Exchange 2007 here)
- you have 1 Exchange 2003 Std Edition (you can't upgrade this box)
- you plan to have a Windows server cluster for file+print (you cannot
install Exchange 2007 here)
To be clear the answer is "Yes", you need an additional 64Bit Windows Server
2003 (or 2008) to be able to introduce Exchange 2007 in your environment that
hosts Mailbox, Hub Transport and Client Access in a non-clustered manner.
Planning for Exchange roles documentation starts here:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996319(EXCHG.80).aspx
I hope this will help so far.
Henry
"sgavriel" wrote:
> Hi Henry,
>
> thank you for your response.
>
> As I understand from your answers, unless an additional 64bit server is
> added in the environment the exchange server 2007 standard edition will not
> be able to be installed as a standalone with the Mailbox, Hub Transport and
> Client Access roles.
>
> Do you know the link to verify that the additional machine's configuration
> is valid for a standalone instalation of Exchange Server 2007 Standard
> edition?
>
>
>
>
> "Henry" wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > first of all, it is not possible to install Exchange 2007 std edition on a
> > clustered windows server!
> > Then: if you would change your mind to install Exchange enterprise edition
> > in a clustered environment you would need at least three servers, better four.
> > 2 for clustered mailbox role and the other for hub transport and client
> > access.
> > Then: You CAN NOT install Exchange 2007 in a cluster together with other
> > clustered features like file&print or SQL...
> >
> > So you only can install Exchange std edition at one of your DCs. That is
> > technically possible (what your question was) but not recommended by
> > Microsoft.
> > In your small environment you could do it anyway.
> >
> > Henry
> >
> >
> > "sgavriel" wrote:
> >
> > > Environment:
> > > There are 2 domain controllers and 1 Exchange Server 2003 Standard edition.
> > > All operating systems installed are Windows Server 2003 Standard edition.
> > >
> > > 2 more servers shall be added in this environment with an external network
> > > storage, on which a Windows Cluster is required to be installed (Windows
> > > Server 2003 Enterprise Edition x64).
> > > This cluster is destined to have highly available the File and Print Server
> > > Roles for a group of ~35 users.
> > >
> > > An Exchange Server 2007 Standard Edition is also reqiured to be installed as
> > > a standalone server in coexistence with the Exchange Server 2003 in tha same
> > > organization.
> > > The Exchange 2007 was destined to be installed as a standalone server only
> > > (not in cluster mode) on the first node of the cluster.
> > >
> > > Problem:
> > > As we came to find out, the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition is not
> > > allowed to be installed on the first node of the cluster with the Mailbox,
> > > Hub Transport, and Client Access roles.
> > > It only allows you to install an Active or Passive Mailbox role together
> > > with the exchange management tools, which is of course not supported by
> > > Microsoft in a production environment.
> > >
> > > So the problem now is that we have an Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition
> > > which cannot be installed in the existing environment, therefore we are
> > > trying to find what are the options to provide a solution and proceed with
> > > the implementation.
> > >
> > > Options in question:
> > > - Is there a way to technicallly allow the Exchange Server 2007 Standard
> > > edition to be installed on the first node of the cluster?
> > > - If we use the Exchange Server 2007 Enterprise edition can the the Mailbox,
> > > Hub Transport, and Client Access roles be installed on the first node of the
> > > cluster?
> > > - Can the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition be installed first on one
> > > of the two servers and then install the Windows Cluster?
> > > - As no more machines can be acquired for this environment, can there be a
> > > solution provided without leaving behind the option to install the Windows
> > > Cluster?
date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:22:00 -0700
author: Henry
RE: Standalone Exchange 2007 installation
Thank you very much Henry
"Henry" wrote:
> Hi
> you wrote
> - you have 2 Windows Server 2003 DC (you cannot install Exchange 2007 here)
> - you have 1 Exchange 2003 Std Edition (you can't upgrade this box)
> - you plan to have a Windows server cluster for file+print (you cannot
> install Exchange 2007 here)
>
> To be clear the answer is "Yes", you need an additional 64Bit Windows Server
> 2003 (or 2008) to be able to introduce Exchange 2007 in your environment that
> hosts Mailbox, Hub Transport and Client Access in a non-clustered manner.
>
> Planning for Exchange roles documentation starts here:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996319(EXCHG.80).aspx
>
> I hope this will help so far.
> Henry
>
> "sgavriel" wrote:
>
> > Hi Henry,
> >
> > thank you for your response.
> >
> > As I understand from your answers, unless an additional 64bit server is
> > added in the environment the exchange server 2007 standard edition will not
> > be able to be installed as a standalone with the Mailbox, Hub Transport and
> > Client Access roles.
> >
> > Do you know the link to verify that the additional machine's configuration
> > is valid for a standalone instalation of Exchange Server 2007 Standard
> > edition?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Henry" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > > first of all, it is not possible to install Exchange 2007 std edition on a
> > > clustered windows server!
> > > Then: if you would change your mind to install Exchange enterprise edition
> > > in a clustered environment you would need at least three servers, better four.
> > > 2 for clustered mailbox role and the other for hub transport and client
> > > access.
> > > Then: You CAN NOT install Exchange 2007 in a cluster together with other
> > > clustered features like file&print or SQL...
> > >
> > > So you only can install Exchange std edition at one of your DCs. That is
> > > technically possible (what your question was) but not recommended by
> > > Microsoft.
> > > In your small environment you could do it anyway.
> > >
> > > Henry
> > >
> > >
> > > "sgavriel" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Environment:
> > > > There are 2 domain controllers and 1 Exchange Server 2003 Standard edition.
> > > > All operating systems installed are Windows Server 2003 Standard edition.
> > > >
> > > > 2 more servers shall be added in this environment with an external network
> > > > storage, on which a Windows Cluster is required to be installed (Windows
> > > > Server 2003 Enterprise Edition x64).
> > > > This cluster is destined to have highly available the File and Print Server
> > > > Roles for a group of ~35 users.
> > > >
> > > > An Exchange Server 2007 Standard Edition is also reqiured to be installed as
> > > > a standalone server in coexistence with the Exchange Server 2003 in tha same
> > > > organization.
> > > > The Exchange 2007 was destined to be installed as a standalone server only
> > > > (not in cluster mode) on the first node of the cluster.
> > > >
> > > > Problem:
> > > > As we came to find out, the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition is not
> > > > allowed to be installed on the first node of the cluster with the Mailbox,
> > > > Hub Transport, and Client Access roles.
> > > > It only allows you to install an Active or Passive Mailbox role together
> > > > with the exchange management tools, which is of course not supported by
> > > > Microsoft in a production environment.
> > > >
> > > > So the problem now is that we have an Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition
> > > > which cannot be installed in the existing environment, therefore we are
> > > > trying to find what are the options to provide a solution and proceed with
> > > > the implementation.
> > > >
> > > > Options in question:
> > > > - Is there a way to technicallly allow the Exchange Server 2007 Standard
> > > > edition to be installed on the first node of the cluster?
> > > > - If we use the Exchange Server 2007 Enterprise edition can the the Mailbox,
> > > > Hub Transport, and Client Access roles be installed on the first node of the
> > > > cluster?
> > > > - Can the Exchange Server 2007 Standard edition be installed first on one
> > > > of the two servers and then install the Windows Cluster?
> > > > - As no more machines can be acquired for this environment, can there be a
> > > > solution provided without leaving behind the option to install the Windows
> > > > Cluster?
date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:29:01 -0700
author: sgavriel
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