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date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:28:54 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.mobility        back       


Re: Converting some phones to Blackberry   
No problem, that is what we are here for.

-- 
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2007
Microsoft Certified Partner


"John Schmidt"  wrote in message 
news:OsSIO6dCIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The BlackBerry Server is up and running with no apparent problems. Before 
> demoting the server down from a DC in a few months, I'll double-check with 
> RIM for any heads-up issues.
>
> Thanks again for your support in this, and convincing me to not install it 
> on the Exchange server.
>
> John
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" 
>  wrote in 
> message news:OQ4MfW1BIHA.5960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> John Schmidt  wrote:
>>> The server I'd be installing BES on and demoting isn't the Exchange
>>> server, (which isn't a domain controller). The one I'd like to use is
>>> just our oldest domain controller , not running anything, and is due
>>> to be replaced in a few months. I'd prefer not to demote it until
>>> then. 'Any issues demoting the server at some time after installing
>>> BES?
>>
>> Not that I know of, but since you have to install the Exchange management 
>> tools & matching SP on your BES box (although it's not full Exchange) 
>> there may be some repercussions I'm not aware of
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>  wrote in
>>> message news:eIlnQsgBIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> John Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>> Well, that domain controller is next on the list to be replaced, so
>>>>> I was just figuring it would work for now, and then demote it later
>>>>> when we add another new server in a few months, rather that buying
>>>>> new server software, etc., right now...
>>>>
>>>> Well, you don't want to demote a server running *Exchange* but I
>>>> don't know if that applies to the Exchange management tools. I'd
>>>> probably want to do that demotion first, if I were you.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>>  wrote in
>>>>> message news:OMSp$nfBIHA.4444@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> John Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>>> The most logical existing computer I have besides the Exchange
>>>>>>> server is also a domain controller, (one of three here). Do you
>>>>>>> see a problem with this, (it's currently not doing anything
>>>>>>> else)? I know I can call RIM support for info, but would to
>>>>>>> prefer to use support for problem issues, rather then
>>>>>>> pre-installation questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Technically speaking, you *can*...but that doesn't mean you
>>>>>> *should*. I'd strongly recommend this be installed on a member 
>>>>>> server...find
>>>>>> a cheap piece of ___ box lying around somewhere on your network &
>>>>>> get W2003 for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>>>>  wrote
>>>>>>> in message news:uUH1PzeBIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> John Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sorry about the confusion - by "SBS" I was referring to
>>>>>>>>> Blackberry's "Small Business Server", not Windows. Exchange 2003
>>>>>>>>> is running on a dedicated Windows 2003 server. I may try
>>>>>>>>> installing on a Workstation computer, though everything I've
>>>>>>>>> read lists Server as a requirement. I'm just concerned that if
>>>>>>>>> I need support they'ss say that configuration isn't supported.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pardon my rudely jumping in....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe Mr. Oliver writes "workstation" to mean "workststion
>>>>>>>> hardware" ....not a workstation operating system. BB doesn't
>>>>>>>> support installing BES on a workstation OS, so yes, you will need
>>>>>>>> Windows Server. You just don't need a souped up box to run it on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message news:eGIWJ9GBIHA.5960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I believe its $99 per license for the Express version.  As
>>>>>>>>>> for running Windows Server requirements for BES, you can most
>>>>>>>>>> certainly run Windows Server on a powerful workstation.
>>>>>>>>>> Remember, BES does not take that much processing power for 15
>>>>>>>>>> users so this is why I mentioned it.  If you dont have one then
>>>>>>>>>> I would do my homework before installing this on your SBS
>>>>>>>>>> server.  I would Google some facts on BES with SBS to see what
>>>>>>>>>> issues others have had.   I recall reading some bad installs
>>>>>>>>>> and issues, so I did not take a chance and installed on
>>>>>>>>>> another box. Yet others had good success. --
>>>>>>>>>> John Oliver, Jr
>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, MCT, CCNA
>>>>>>>>>> Exchange MVP 2007
>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Partner
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "John Schmidt"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:e1XoO4GBIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah - regular SBS  version, which also include 5 licenses. I
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't even find out about the Express version until today,
>>>>>>>>>>> but would have to buy the extra licenses anyway. It also
>>>>>>>>>>> includes a support incident, which I can use for install help
>>>>>>>>>>> if necessary. Also, I was under the impression Window Server was 
>>>>>>>>>>> required:
>>>>>>>>>>> (from the install requirements)
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Windows 2000 (Server or Advanced editions) with
>>>>>>>>>>> Service Pack (SP) 4
>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Windows Server. 2003 (Standard, Enterprise or Small
>>>>>>>>>>> Business Server)
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have any spare servers that fit that requirement, (and
>>>>>>>>>>> others), right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:DDFEFBF5-EE31-49B2-9F9F-B57F2D6F1A00@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you paying anything for the Small Business Edition which
>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe is around $1000?  I say this, because I just
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed BES at a Small Business Server site and used the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Server Express version of BES which is free.  Small know
>>>>>>>>>>>> fact but it saves you a $1000.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.blackberry.com/select/server/express.shtml?www.reghardware.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW:  I would recommend keeping any version of BES on its own
>>>>>>>>>>>> box. Does not even have to be very powerful, maybe a good
>>>>>>>>>>>> workstation for less than 15 users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> John Oliver, Jr
>>>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, MCT, CCNA
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange MVP 2007
>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Partner
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "John Schmidt"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u%23UacSGBIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK - I did some digging through the documents and found
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this, (we're installing the Small Business Edition):
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can install the BlackBerry Enterprise Server Express or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the BlackBerry Enterprise Server - Small Business Edition on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same computer as your messaging server if you plan to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implement 15 or fewer BlackBerry devices in your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization. If you plan to upgrade your installation to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> full BlackBerry Enterprise Server, and support more than 15
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlackBerry devices, install the BlackBerry Enterprise Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Express or BlackBerry Enterprise Server - Small Business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edition on a computer separate from the messaging server
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. -----------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> By the time we need to upgrade to more than 15 licenses,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be wanting a new server anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John Schmidt"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:uOfmPkFBIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm - I've got a fairly new Exchange server with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space - the Blackberry Server software can't reside there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also? (Haven't perused the install docs yet...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Michael Dragone" <no.e-mail=less_spam> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:DBA95BAD-74AA-40FB-A9B1-0BDA255523E6@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have this setup in place and it works fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you install your BES, you'll set up a service account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the default as per RIM is BESAdmin) and grant that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account appropriate permissions to access all your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange mailboxes. It's a different architecture that WM5 - 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows Mobile the client logs in directly with their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> username/password; with a BES the service account logs on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the client mailbox and "relays" the messages back and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forth between your Exchange server, the BlackBerry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure provided by RIM and the BlackBerry devices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves. As long as you install the BES on its own box,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set the permissions for the service account correct and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software correctly (same version of the Exchange System
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manangement tools, etc.) you should be fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure you read all the documentation from RIM before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you get going; feel free to post back if you run into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble. "John Schmidt"  wrote 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:OW%23tINFBIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got about a dozen Palm Treo 750's working just fine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with WM5 and our Exchange 2003 server, but now there are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a number of people here that insist on using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blackberrys. I have been using the Blackberry Desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Redirector for this, (with its obvious limitations), but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since we now have at least six Blackberrys added to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mix, management has opted for the Small Business Edition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Blackberry Server for Exchange, (in addition to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing Windows Mobile). I'm not really looking forward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to installation of Blackberry Server, and don't expect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any deailed help here, but just wondered if anyone has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done this configuration before, (we'll have *both* WM5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Blackberry units active), and has any "heads up" or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other comments? WM5 with Exchange has been totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without problems for several months now - it's a drag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having to learn a whole new program for the sake of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few project managers, but I guess that's what I'm paid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for... Thanks for any insights. John
>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:28:54 -0400   author:   John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]

Re: Converting some phones to Blackberry   
John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]  wrote:
> No problem, that is what we are here for.

To tell people not to do things! ;-)

>
>
> "John Schmidt"  wrote in message
> news:OsSIO6dCIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The BlackBerry Server is up and running with no apparent problems.
>> Before demoting the server down from a DC in a few months, I'll
>> double-check with RIM for any heads-up issues.
>>
>> Thanks again for your support in this, and convincing me to not
>> install it on the Exchange server.
>>
>> John
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>  wrote in
>> message news:OQ4MfW1BIHA.5960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> John Schmidt  wrote:
>>>> The server I'd be installing BES on and demoting isn't the Exchange
>>>> server, (which isn't a domain controller). The one I'd like to use
>>>> is just our oldest domain controller , not running anything, and
>>>> is due to be replaced in a few months. I'd prefer not to demote it
>>>> until then. 'Any issues demoting the server at some time after
>>>> installing BES?
>>>
>>> Not that I know of, but since you have to install the Exchange
>>> management tools & matching SP on your BES box (although it's not
>>> full Exchange) there may be some repercussions I'm not aware of
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>  wrote in
>>>> message news:eIlnQsgBIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> John Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>> Well, that domain controller is next on the list to be replaced,
>>>>>> so I was just figuring it would work for now, and then demote it
>>>>>> later when we add another new server in a few months, rather
>>>>>> that buying new server software, etc., right now...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you don't want to demote a server running *Exchange* but I
>>>>> don't know if that applies to the Exchange management tools. I'd
>>>>> probably want to do that demotion first, if I were you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>>>  wrote
>>>>>> in message news:OMSp$nfBIHA.4444@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> John Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>>>> The most logical existing computer I have besides the Exchange
>>>>>>>> server is also a domain controller, (one of three here). Do you
>>>>>>>> see a problem with this, (it's currently not doing anything
>>>>>>>> else)? I know I can call RIM support for info, but would to
>>>>>>>> prefer to use support for problem issues, rather then
>>>>>>>> pre-installation questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Technically speaking, you *can*...but that doesn't mean you
>>>>>>> *should*. I'd strongly recommend this be installed on a member
>>>>>>> server...find
>>>>>>> a cheap piece of ___ box lying around somewhere on your network
>>>>>>> & get W2003 for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote in message news:uUH1PzeBIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> John Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry about the confusion - by "SBS" I was referring to
>>>>>>>>>> Blackberry's "Small Business Server", not Windows. Exchange
>>>>>>>>>> 2003 is running on a dedicated Windows 2003 server. I may try
>>>>>>>>>> installing on a Workstation computer, though everything I've
>>>>>>>>>> read lists Server as a requirement. I'm just concerned that
>>>>>>>>>> if I need support they'ss say that configuration isn't
>>>>>>>>>> supported.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pardon my rudely jumping in....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe Mr. Oliver writes "workstation" to mean "workststion
>>>>>>>>> hardware" ....not a workstation operating system. BB doesn't
>>>>>>>>> support installing BES on a workstation OS, so yes, you will
>>>>>>>>> need Windows Server. You just don't need a souped up box to
>>>>>>>>> run it on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> message news:eGIWJ9GBIHA.5960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I believe its $99 per license for the Express version.
>>>>>>>>>>> As for running Windows Server requirements for BES, you can
>>>>>>>>>>> most certainly run Windows Server on a powerful workstation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Remember, BES does not take that much processing power for
>>>>>>>>>>> 15 users so this is why I mentioned it.  If you dont have
>>>>>>>>>>> one then I would do my homework before installing this on
>>>>>>>>>>> your SBS server.  I would Google some facts on BES with SBS
>>>>>>>>>>> to see what issues others have had.   I recall reading some
>>>>>>>>>>> bad installs and issues, so I did not take a chance and
>>>>>>>>>>> installed on another box. Yet others had good success. --
>>>>>>>>>>> John Oliver, Jr
>>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, MCT, CCNA
>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange MVP 2007
>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Partner
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "John Schmidt"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> message news:e1XoO4GBIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah - regular SBS  version, which also include 5
>>>>>>>>>>>> licenses. I didn't even find out about the Express version
>>>>>>>>>>>> until today, but would have to buy the extra licenses anyway. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It also
>>>>>>>>>>>> includes a support incident, which I can use for install
>>>>>>>>>>>> help if necessary. Also, I was under the impression Window
>>>>>>>>>>>> Server was required:
>>>>>>>>>>>> (from the install requirements)
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Windows 2000 (Server or Advanced editions) with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Service Pack (SP) 4
>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Windows Server. 2003 (Standard, Enterprise or
>>>>>>>>>>>> Small Business Server)
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have any spare servers that fit that requirement,
>>>>>>>>>>>> (and others), right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:DDFEFBF5-EE31-49B2-9F9F-B57F2D6F1A00@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you paying anything for the Small Business Edition
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I believe is around $1000?  I say this, because I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just installed BES at a Small Business Server site and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> used the Server Express version of BES which is free. Small 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know fact but it saves you a $1000.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.blackberry.com/select/server/express.shtml?www.reghardware.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW:  I would recommend keeping any version of BES on its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> own box. Does not even have to be very powerful, maybe a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> good workstation for less than 15 users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Oliver, Jr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, MCT, CCNA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange MVP 2007
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Partner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John Schmidt"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:u%23UacSGBIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK - I did some digging through the documents and found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this, (we're installing the Small Business Edition):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can install the BlackBerry Enterprise Server Express
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the BlackBerry Enterprise Server - Small Business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edition on the same computer as your messaging server if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you plan to implement 15 or fewer BlackBerry devices in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your organization. If you plan to upgrade your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation to a full BlackBerry Enterprise Server, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support more than 15 BlackBerry devices, install the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlackBerry Enterprise Server Express or BlackBerry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise Server - Small Business Edition on a computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate from the messaging server computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------- By the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time we need to upgrade to more than 15 licenses, I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be wanting a new server anyway. John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John Schmidt"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:uOfmPkFBIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm - I've got a fairly new Exchange server with lots
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of space - the Blackberry Server software can't reside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there also? (Haven't perused the install docs yet...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Michael Dragone" <no.e-mail=less_spam> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:DBA95BAD-74AA-40FB-A9B1-0BDA255523E6@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have this setup in place and it works fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you install your BES, you'll set up a service
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account (the default as per RIM is BESAdmin) and grant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that account appropriate permissions to access all your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange mailboxes. It's a different architecture that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WM5 - with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows Mobile the client logs in directly with their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own username/password; with a BES the service account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logs on to the client mailbox and "relays" the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages back and forth between your Exchange server,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the BlackBerry infrastructure provided by RIM and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlackBerry devices themselves. As long as you install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the BES on its own box, set the permissions for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service account correct and install the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software correctly (same version of the Exchange System
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manangement tools, etc.) you should be fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure you read all the documentation from RIM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before you get going; feel free to post back if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run into trouble. "John Schmidt"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:OW%23tINFBIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got about a dozen Palm Treo 750's working just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine with WM5 and our Exchange 2003 server, but now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are a number of people here that insist on using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blackberrys. I have been using the Blackberry Desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Redirector for this, (with its obvious limitations),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but since we now have at least six Blackberrys added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the mix, management has opted for the Small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Business Edition of Blackberry Server for Exchange,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in addition to existing Windows Mobile). I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really looking forward to installation of Blackberry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Server, and don't expect any deailed help here, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just wondered if anyone has done this configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before, (we'll have *both* WM5 and Blackberry units
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active), and has any "heads up" or other comments?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WM5 with Exchange has been totally without problems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for several months now - it's a drag having to learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a whole new program for the sake of a few project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers, but I guess that's what I'm paid for...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any insights. John
date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:39:55 -0400   author:   Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

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