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date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:30:00 -0800,
group: microsoft.public.exchange.design
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Re: Exchange 2007 SP1 - SCR vs CCR
Thanks Bharat,
I've been lucky enough to talk with an Exchange tech today at Microsoft's UK
HQ in Reading, here's what I've learnt:
SCR as implemeneted in SP1 will still require clustering.
As explained to me, it effectively allows the active node to Seed and
Log-Ship to a storage area at a seperate datacentre (this is done in addition
to the seeding/logshipping being done by the passive node).
This offsite copy can then be accessed by a dedicated server at that site.
My understanding is that the 'recovery' steps need to bring the offsite
service online in the event of the datacentre being unavailable would be
manual ones
Exchange 14 when it's released, will remove the need for MSCS to be used to
cluster.
Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn - All of the above are my views based
on informal chats with Exchange contacts at MS, so please dont take it as
gospel. If it turns out to be mis-information because I haven't understood I
apologise, but hopefully it'll be of some benefit until more official info
is available.
All the best,
Darren
"Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote:
> Friday's post on the team blog was probably the first time this feature was
> talked about/announced publicly. Not a lot of details are available at this
> point.
>
> --
> Bharat Suneja
> MVP - Exchange
> www.zenprise.com
> NEW blog location:
> exchangepedia.com/blog
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> "Darren" wrote in message
> news:6AE618E4-00B1-43A7-8A25-509ADB2257BD@microsoft.com...
> >I read on the Exchange Team blog site that Standby Continuous Replication
> >is
> > going to provide the facility for Exchange 2007 to run a geographically
> > dispersed standby server without the need to stretch the subnet, which
> > would
> > normally be needed with a CCR cluster.
> >
> > The implication is that the MS Cluster Services is done away with - so no
> > need for the file share witness role, potentially no need for Enterprise
> > software (maybe).
> >
> > There doesn't seem to be any info yet on how SCR works yet tho - anybody
> > heard anything? I presume it uses the same database seeding and log
> > shipping/transport dumpster technology but that the failover & recovery is
> > handled through Exchange Console/Powershell as a manual process. Can't
> > find
> > any info on how the server to server comms are done either.
> >
> > Any info greatly appreciated
>
>
>
date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:56:13 -0800
author: Darren
Re: Exchange 2007 SP1 - SCR vs CCR
Awaiting more details on this.
--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------------------------
"Darren" wrote in message
news:82F73307-F933-40C8-BB63-426994A0D430@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Bharat,
>
> I've been lucky enough to talk with an Exchange tech today at Microsoft's
> UK
> HQ in Reading, here's what I've learnt:
>
> SCR as implemeneted in SP1 will still require clustering.
>
> As explained to me, it effectively allows the active node to Seed and
> Log-Ship to a storage area at a seperate datacentre (this is done in
> addition
> to the seeding/logshipping being done by the passive node).
>
> This offsite copy can then be accessed by a dedicated server at that site.
> My understanding is that the 'recovery' steps need to bring the offsite
> service online in the event of the datacentre being unavailable would be
> manual ones
>
> Exchange 14 when it's released, will remove the need for MSCS to be used
> to
> cluster.
>
> Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn - All of the above are my views
> based
> on informal chats with Exchange contacts at MS, so please dont take it as
> gospel. If it turns out to be mis-information because I haven't understood
> I
> apologise, but hopefully it'll be of some benefit until more official
> info
> is available.
>
> All the best,
>
> Darren
>
>
> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Friday's post on the team blog was probably the first time this feature
>> was
>> talked about/announced publicly. Not a lot of details are available at
>> this
>> point.
>>
>> --
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MVP - Exchange
>> www.zenprise.com
>> NEW blog location:
>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> "Darren" wrote in message
>> news:6AE618E4-00B1-43A7-8A25-509ADB2257BD@microsoft.com...
>> >I read on the Exchange Team blog site that Standby Continuous
>> >Replication
>> >is
>> > going to provide the facility for Exchange 2007 to run a geographically
>> > dispersed standby server without the need to stretch the subnet, which
>> > would
>> > normally be needed with a CCR cluster.
>> >
>> > The implication is that the MS Cluster Services is done away with - so
>> > no
>> > need for the file share witness role, potentially no need for
>> > Enterprise
>> > software (maybe).
>> >
>> > There doesn't seem to be any info yet on how SCR works yet tho -
>> > anybody
>> > heard anything? I presume it uses the same database seeding and log
>> > shipping/transport dumpster technology but that the failover & recovery
>> > is
>> > handled through Exchange Console/Powershell as a manual process. Can't
>> > find
>> > any info on how the server to server comms are done either.
>> >
>> > Any info greatly appreciated
>>
>>
>>
date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:04:29 -0800
author: Bharat Suneja [MVP]
Re: Exchange 2007 SP1 - SCR vs CCR
My understanding was:
The source can be standalone, CCR, or SCC.
The target can be standalone or the pssive node of a cluster that is not a
possible owner of any other CMS.
John
"Darren" wrote in message
news:82F73307-F933-40C8-BB63-426994A0D430@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Bharat,
>
> I've been lucky enough to talk with an Exchange tech today at Microsoft's
> UK
> HQ in Reading, here's what I've learnt:
>
> SCR as implemeneted in SP1 will still require clustering.
>
> As explained to me, it effectively allows the active node to Seed and
> Log-Ship to a storage area at a seperate datacentre (this is done in
> addition
> to the seeding/logshipping being done by the passive node).
>
> This offsite copy can then be accessed by a dedicated server at that site.
> My understanding is that the 'recovery' steps need to bring the offsite
> service online in the event of the datacentre being unavailable would be
> manual ones
>
> Exchange 14 when it's released, will remove the need for MSCS to be used
> to
> cluster.
>
> Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn - All of the above are my views
> based
> on informal chats with Exchange contacts at MS, so please dont take it as
> gospel. If it turns out to be mis-information because I haven't understood
> I
> apologise, but hopefully it'll be of some benefit until more official
> info
> is available.
>
> All the best,
>
> Darren
>
>
> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Friday's post on the team blog was probably the first time this feature
>> was
>> talked about/announced publicly. Not a lot of details are available at
>> this
>> point.
>>
>> --
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MVP - Exchange
>> www.zenprise.com
>> NEW blog location:
>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> "Darren" wrote in message
>> news:6AE618E4-00B1-43A7-8A25-509ADB2257BD@microsoft.com...
>> >I read on the Exchange Team blog site that Standby Continuous
>> >Replication
>> >is
>> > going to provide the facility for Exchange 2007 to run a geographically
>> > dispersed standby server without the need to stretch the subnet, which
>> > would
>> > normally be needed with a CCR cluster.
>> >
>> > The implication is that the MS Cluster Services is done away with - so
>> > no
>> > need for the file share witness role, potentially no need for
>> > Enterprise
>> > software (maybe).
>> >
>> > There doesn't seem to be any info yet on how SCR works yet tho -
>> > anybody
>> > heard anything? I presume it uses the same database seeding and log
>> > shipping/transport dumpster technology but that the failover & recovery
>> > is
>> > handled through Exchange Console/Powershell as a manual process. Can't
>> > find
>> > any info on how the server to server comms are done either.
>> >
>> > Any info greatly appreciated
>>
>>
>>
date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:34:40 -0800
author: John Fullbright [MVP] fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom
Re: Exchange 2007 SP1 - SCR vs CCR
Your understanding is correct.
--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------------------------
"John Fullbright [MVP]" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message
news:uihJbfsWHHA.1636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> My understanding was:
>
> The source can be standalone, CCR, or SCC.
> The target can be standalone or the pssive node of a cluster that is not a
> possible owner of any other CMS.
>
> John
>
>
> "Darren" wrote in message
> news:82F73307-F933-40C8-BB63-426994A0D430@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks Bharat,
>>
>> I've been lucky enough to talk with an Exchange tech today at Microsoft's
>> UK
>> HQ in Reading, here's what I've learnt:
>>
>> SCR as implemeneted in SP1 will still require clustering.
>>
>> As explained to me, it effectively allows the active node to Seed and
>> Log-Ship to a storage area at a seperate datacentre (this is done in
>> addition
>> to the seeding/logshipping being done by the passive node).
>>
>> This offsite copy can then be accessed by a dedicated server at that
>> site.
>> My understanding is that the 'recovery' steps need to bring the offsite
>> service online in the event of the datacentre being unavailable would be
>> manual ones
>>
>> Exchange 14 when it's released, will remove the need for MSCS to be used
>> to
>> cluster.
>>
>> Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn - All of the above are my views
>> based
>> on informal chats with Exchange contacts at MS, so please dont take it as
>> gospel. If it turns out to be mis-information because I haven't
>> understood I
>> apologise, but hopefully it'll be of some benefit until more official
>> info
>> is available.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Darren
>>
>>
>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> Friday's post on the team blog was probably the first time this feature
>>> was
>>> talked about/announced publicly. Not a lot of details are available at
>>> this
>>> point.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bharat Suneja
>>> MVP - Exchange
>>> www.zenprise.com
>>> NEW blog location:
>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Darren" wrote in message
>>> news:6AE618E4-00B1-43A7-8A25-509ADB2257BD@microsoft.com...
>>> >I read on the Exchange Team blog site that Standby Continuous
>>> >Replication
>>> >is
>>> > going to provide the facility for Exchange 2007 to run a
>>> > geographically
>>> > dispersed standby server without the need to stretch the subnet, which
>>> > would
>>> > normally be needed with a CCR cluster.
>>> >
>>> > The implication is that the MS Cluster Services is done away with - so
>>> > no
>>> > need for the file share witness role, potentially no need for
>>> > Enterprise
>>> > software (maybe).
>>> >
>>> > There doesn't seem to be any info yet on how SCR works yet tho -
>>> > anybody
>>> > heard anything? I presume it uses the same database seeding and log
>>> > shipping/transport dumpster technology but that the failover &
>>> > recovery is
>>> > handled through Exchange Console/Powershell as a manual process. Can't
>>> > find
>>> > any info on how the server to server comms are done either.
>>> >
>>> > Any info greatly appreciated
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:27:34 -0800
author: Bharat Suneja [MVP]
Re: Exchange 2007 SP1 - SCR vs CCR
I'm still a bit fuzzy on what the recovery steps are. If the destination is
a standalone, would you use something like
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998340.aspx ?
"Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote in message
news:evqNDAuWHHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Your understanding is correct.
> --
> Bharat Suneja
> MVP - Exchange
> www.zenprise.com
> NEW blog location:
> exchangepedia.com/blog
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> "John Fullbright [MVP]" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message
> news:uihJbfsWHHA.1636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> My understanding was:
>>
>> The source can be standalone, CCR, or SCC.
>> The target can be standalone or the pssive node of a cluster that is not
>> a possible owner of any other CMS.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> "Darren" wrote in message
>> news:82F73307-F933-40C8-BB63-426994A0D430@microsoft.com...
>>> Thanks Bharat,
>>>
>>> I've been lucky enough to talk with an Exchange tech today at
>>> Microsoft's UK
>>> HQ in Reading, here's what I've learnt:
>>>
>>> SCR as implemeneted in SP1 will still require clustering.
>>>
>>> As explained to me, it effectively allows the active node to Seed and
>>> Log-Ship to a storage area at a seperate datacentre (this is done in
>>> addition
>>> to the seeding/logshipping being done by the passive node).
>>>
>>> This offsite copy can then be accessed by a dedicated server at that
>>> site.
>>> My understanding is that the 'recovery' steps need to bring the offsite
>>> service online in the event of the datacentre being unavailable would be
>>> manual ones
>>>
>>> Exchange 14 when it's released, will remove the need for MSCS to be used
>>> to
>>> cluster.
>>>
>>> Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn - All of the above are my views
>>> based
>>> on informal chats with Exchange contacts at MS, so please dont take it
>>> as
>>> gospel. If it turns out to be mis-information because I haven't
>>> understood I
>>> apologise, but hopefully it'll be of some benefit until more official
>>> info
>>> is available.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Darren
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Friday's post on the team blog was probably the first time this feature
>>>> was
>>>> talked about/announced publicly. Not a lot of details are available at
>>>> this
>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bharat Suneja
>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>> www.zenprise.com
>>>> NEW blog location:
>>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Darren" wrote in message
>>>> news:6AE618E4-00B1-43A7-8A25-509ADB2257BD@microsoft.com...
>>>> >I read on the Exchange Team blog site that Standby Continuous
>>>> >Replication
>>>> >is
>>>> > going to provide the facility for Exchange 2007 to run a
>>>> > geographically
>>>> > dispersed standby server without the need to stretch the subnet,
>>>> > which
>>>> > would
>>>> > normally be needed with a CCR cluster.
>>>> >
>>>> > The implication is that the MS Cluster Services is done away with -
>>>> > so no
>>>> > need for the file share witness role, potentially no need for
>>>> > Enterprise
>>>> > software (maybe).
>>>> >
>>>> > There doesn't seem to be any info yet on how SCR works yet tho -
>>>> > anybody
>>>> > heard anything? I presume it uses the same database seeding and log
>>>> > shipping/transport dumpster technology but that the failover &
>>>> > recovery is
>>>> > handled through Exchange Console/Powershell as a manual process.
>>>> > Can't
>>>> > find
>>>> > any info on how the server to server comms are done either.
>>>> >
>>>> > Any info greatly appreciated
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:47:09 -0800
author: John Fullbright [MVP] fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom
Re: Exchange 2007 SP1 - SCR vs CCR
Responding offline John.
--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------------------------
"John Fullbright [MVP]" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message
news:%23j71WKuWHHA.2284@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I'm still a bit fuzzy on what the recovery steps are. If the destination
> is a standalone, would you use something like
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998340.aspx ?
>
>
> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote in message
> news:evqNDAuWHHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Your understanding is correct.
>> --
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MVP - Exchange
>> www.zenprise.com
>> NEW blog location:
>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> "John Fullbright [MVP]" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message
>> news:uihJbfsWHHA.1636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> My understanding was:
>>>
>>> The source can be standalone, CCR, or SCC.
>>> The target can be standalone or the pssive node of a cluster that is not
>>> a possible owner of any other CMS.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> "Darren" wrote in message
>>> news:82F73307-F933-40C8-BB63-426994A0D430@microsoft.com...
>>>> Thanks Bharat,
>>>>
>>>> I've been lucky enough to talk with an Exchange tech today at
>>>> Microsoft's UK
>>>> HQ in Reading, here's what I've learnt:
>>>>
>>>> SCR as implemeneted in SP1 will still require clustering.
>>>>
>>>> As explained to me, it effectively allows the active node to Seed and
>>>> Log-Ship to a storage area at a seperate datacentre (this is done in
>>>> addition
>>>> to the seeding/logshipping being done by the passive node).
>>>>
>>>> This offsite copy can then be accessed by a dedicated server at that
>>>> site.
>>>> My understanding is that the 'recovery' steps need to bring the offsite
>>>> service online in the event of the datacentre being unavailable would
>>>> be
>>>> manual ones
>>>>
>>>> Exchange 14 when it's released, will remove the need for MSCS to be
>>>> used to
>>>> cluster.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn - All of the above are my views
>>>> based
>>>> on informal chats with Exchange contacts at MS, so please dont take it
>>>> as
>>>> gospel. If it turns out to be mis-information because I haven't
>>>> understood I
>>>> apologise, but hopefully it'll be of some benefit until more official
>>>> info
>>>> is available.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Darren
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Friday's post on the team blog was probably the first time this
>>>>> feature was
>>>>> talked about/announced publicly. Not a lot of details are available at
>>>>> this
>>>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bharat Suneja
>>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>>> www.zenprise.com
>>>>> NEW blog location:
>>>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Darren" wrote in message
>>>>> news:6AE618E4-00B1-43A7-8A25-509ADB2257BD@microsoft.com...
>>>>> >I read on the Exchange Team blog site that Standby Continuous
>>>>> >Replication
>>>>> >is
>>>>> > going to provide the facility for Exchange 2007 to run a
>>>>> > geographically
>>>>> > dispersed standby server without the need to stretch the subnet,
>>>>> > which
>>>>> > would
>>>>> > normally be needed with a CCR cluster.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The implication is that the MS Cluster Services is done away with -
>>>>> > so no
>>>>> > need for the file share witness role, potentially no need for
>>>>> > Enterprise
>>>>> > software (maybe).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > There doesn't seem to be any info yet on how SCR works yet tho -
>>>>> > anybody
>>>>> > heard anything? I presume it uses the same database seeding and log
>>>>> > shipping/transport dumpster technology but that the failover &
>>>>> > recovery is
>>>>> > handled through Exchange Console/Powershell as a manual process.
>>>>> > Can't
>>>>> > find
>>>>> > any info on how the server to server comms are done either.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Any info greatly appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:54:06 -0800
author: Bharat Suneja [MVP]
Re: Exchange 2007 SP1 - SCR vs CCR
Bharat,
We are all interested in your response. Can you elaborate online?
David A. Bermingham, MCSE, MCSA:Messaging
Director of Product Management
www.steeleye.com
?
On Feb 28, 1:54 pm, "Bharat Suneja [MVP]"
wrote:
> Responding offline John.
>
> --
> Bharat Suneja
> MVP - Exchangewww.zenprise.com
> NEW blog location:
> exchangepedia.com/blog
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> "John Fullbright [MVP]" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in messagenews:%23j71WKuWHHA.2284@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > I'm still a bit fuzzy on what the recovery steps are. If the destination
> > is a standalone, would you use something like
> >http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998340.aspx?
>
> > "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote in message
> >news:evqNDAuWHHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> Your understanding is correct.
> >> --
> >> Bharat Suneja
> >> MVP - Exchange
> >>www.zenprise.com
> >> NEW blog location:
> >> exchangepedia.com/blog
> >> ----------------------------------------------
>
> >> "John Fullbright [MVP]" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message
> >>news:uihJbfsWHHA.1636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>> My understanding was:
>
> >>> The source can be standalone, CCR, or SCC.
> >>> The target can be standalone or the pssive node of a cluster that is not
> >>> a possible owner of any other CMS.
>
> >>> John
>
> >>> "Darren" wrote in message
> >>>news:82F73307-F933-40C8-BB63-426994A0D430@microsoft.com...
> >>>> Thanks Bharat,
>
> >>>> I've been lucky enough to talk with an Exchange tech today at
> >>>> Microsoft's UK
> >>>> HQ in Reading, here's what I've learnt:
>
> >>>> SCR as implemeneted in SP1 will still require clustering.
>
> >>>> As explained to me, it effectively allows the active node to Seed and
> >>>> Log-Ship to a storage area at a seperate datacentre (this is done in
> >>>> addition
> >>>> to the seeding/logshipping being done by the passive node).
>
> >>>> This offsite copy can then be accessed by a dedicated server at that
> >>>> site.
> >>>> My understanding is that the 'recovery' steps need to bring the offsite
> >>>> service online in the event of the datacentre being unavailable would
> >>>> be
> >>>> manual ones
>
> >>>> Exchange 14 when it's released, will remove the need for MSCS to be
> >>>> used to
> >>>> cluster.
>
> >>>> Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn - All of the above are my views
> >>>> based
> >>>> on informal chats with Exchange contacts at MS, so please dont take it
> >>>> as
> >>>> gospel. If it turns out to be mis-information because I haven't
> >>>> understood I
> >>>> apologise, but hopefully it'll be of some benefit until more official
> >>>> info
> >>>> is available.
>
> >>>> All the best,
>
> >>>> Darren
>
> >>>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote:
>
> >>>>> Friday's post on the team blog was probably the first time this
> >>>>> feature was
> >>>>> talked about/announced publicly. Not a lot of details are available at
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> point.
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Bharat Suneja
> >>>>> MVP - Exchange
> >>>>>www.zenprise.com
> >>>>> NEW blog location:
> >>>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>
> >>>>> "Darren" wrote in message
> >>>>>news:6AE618E4-00B1-43A7-8A25-509ADB2257BD@microsoft.com...
> >>>>> >I read on the Exchange Team blog site that Standby Continuous
> >>>>> >Replication
> >>>>> >is
> >>>>> > going to provide the facility for Exchange 2007 to run a
> >>>>> > geographically
> >>>>> > dispersed standby server without the need to stretch the subnet,
> >>>>> > which
> >>>>> > would
> >>>>> > normally be needed with a CCR cluster.
>
> >>>>> > The implication is that the MS Cluster Services is done away with -
> >>>>> > so no
> >>>>> > need for the file share witness role, potentially no need for
> >>>>> > Enterprise
> >>>>> > software (maybe).
>
> >>>>> > There doesn't seem to be any info yet on how SCR works yet tho -
> >>>>> > anybody
> >>>>> > heard anything? I presume it uses the same database seeding and log
> >>>>> > shipping/transport dumpster technology but that the failover &
> >>>>> > recovery is
> >>>>> > handled through Exchange Console/Powershell as a manual process.
> >>>>> > Can't
> >>>>> > find
> >>>>> > any info on how the server to server comms are done either.
>
> >>>>> > Any info greatly appreciated- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
date: 28 Feb 2007 13:46:07 -0800
author: daveberm
Re: Exchange 2007 SP1 - SCR vs CCR
Sorry, it's under NDA - John's a MVP.
--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------------------------
"daveberm" wrote in message
news:1172699167.426991.66710@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Bharat,
>
> We are all interested in your response. Can you elaborate online?
>
> David A. Bermingham, MCSE, MCSA:Messaging
> Director of Product Management
> www.steeleye.com
>
> ?
>
> On Feb 28, 1:54 pm, "Bharat Suneja [MVP]"
> wrote:
>> Responding offline John.
>>
>> --
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MVP - Exchangewww.zenprise.com
>> NEW blog location:
>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> "John Fullbright [MVP]" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in
>> messagenews:%23j71WKuWHHA.2284@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'm still a bit fuzzy on what the recovery steps are. If the
>> > destination
>> > is a standalone, would you use something like
>> >http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998340.aspx?
>>
>> > "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote in message
>> >news:evqNDAuWHHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> Your understanding is correct.
>> >> --
>> >> Bharat Suneja
>> >> MVP - Exchange
>> >>www.zenprise.com
>> >> NEW blog location:
>> >> exchangepedia.com/blog
>> >> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> >> "John Fullbright [MVP]" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message
>> >>news:uihJbfsWHHA.1636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >>> My understanding was:
>>
>> >>> The source can be standalone, CCR, or SCC.
>> >>> The target can be standalone or the pssive node of a cluster that is
>> >>> not
>> >>> a possible owner of any other CMS.
>>
>> >>> John
>>
>> >>> "Darren" wrote in message
>> >>>news:82F73307-F933-40C8-BB63-426994A0D430@microsoft.com...
>> >>>> Thanks Bharat,
>>
>> >>>> I've been lucky enough to talk with an Exchange tech today at
>> >>>> Microsoft's UK
>> >>>> HQ in Reading, here's what I've learnt:
>>
>> >>>> SCR as implemeneted in SP1 will still require clustering.
>>
>> >>>> As explained to me, it effectively allows the active node to Seed
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> Log-Ship to a storage area at a seperate datacentre (this is done in
>> >>>> addition
>> >>>> to the seeding/logshipping being done by the passive node).
>>
>> >>>> This offsite copy can then be accessed by a dedicated server at that
>> >>>> site.
>> >>>> My understanding is that the 'recovery' steps need to bring the
>> >>>> offsite
>> >>>> service online in the event of the datacentre being unavailable
>> >>>> would
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> manual ones
>>
>> >>>> Exchange 14 when it's released, will remove the need for MSCS to be
>> >>>> used to
>> >>>> cluster.
>>
>> >>>> Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn - All of the above are my
>> >>>> views
>> >>>> based
>> >>>> on informal chats with Exchange contacts at MS, so please dont take
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> gospel. If it turns out to be mis-information because I haven't
>> >>>> understood I
>> >>>> apologise, but hopefully it'll be of some benefit until more
>> >>>> official
>> >>>> info
>> >>>> is available.
>>
>> >>>> All the best,
>>
>> >>>> Darren
>>
>> >>>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> Friday's post on the team blog was probably the first time this
>> >>>>> feature was
>> >>>>> talked about/announced publicly. Not a lot of details are available
>> >>>>> at
>> >>>>> this
>> >>>>> point.
>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Bharat Suneja
>> >>>>> MVP - Exchange
>> >>>>>www.zenprise.com
>> >>>>> NEW blog location:
>> >>>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> >>>>> "Darren" wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:6AE618E4-00B1-43A7-8A25-509ADB2257BD@microsoft.com...
>> >>>>> >I read on the Exchange Team blog site that Standby Continuous
>> >>>>> >Replication
>> >>>>> >is
>> >>>>> > going to provide the facility for Exchange 2007 to run a
>> >>>>> > geographically
>> >>>>> > dispersed standby server without the need to stretch the subnet,
>> >>>>> > which
>> >>>>> > would
>> >>>>> > normally be needed with a CCR cluster.
>>
>> >>>>> > The implication is that the MS Cluster Services is done away
>> >>>>> > with -
>> >>>>> > so no
>> >>>>> > need for the file share witness role, potentially no need for
>> >>>>> > Enterprise
>> >>>>> > software (maybe).
>>
>> >>>>> > There doesn't seem to be any info yet on how SCR works yet tho -
>> >>>>> > anybody
>> >>>>> > heard anything? I presume it uses the same database seeding and
>> >>>>> > log
>> >>>>> > shipping/transport dumpster technology but that the failover &
>> >>>>> > recovery is
>> >>>>> > handled through Exchange Console/Powershell as a manual process.
>> >>>>> > Can't
>> >>>>> > find
>> >>>>> > any info on how the server to server comms are done either.
>>
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date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:32:50 -0800
author: Bharat Suneja [MVP]
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