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date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:19:01 -0700,
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Re: URGENT: EXCHNAGE SERVER CO-LOCATION
Thank you Paul,
The article has filled some of my knowledge gaps, Yet i am not able to
calculate the bandwith loss if i have the server co-located to 150 Kms far
ISP. Though getting colocated is not advaisable esp a distance of 150 Kms.
But i need to put in black n white to convence the management.
Well if you know any microsoft consultant who don't charge us let me know.
Else my purpose is not solved.
Thank you.
"Paul Ford" wrote:
> Kris,
>
> I am not saying this is the only or the best option for you and it might be
> worth getting a Microsoft Exchange Consultant in to assist you with
> analysing the options and which ones suit you best as they will be able to
> take a complete look at the system and your business needs. There is an
> article on Consolidating Exchange servers that may help
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/servercon.mspx
>
> Paul
>
> "Kris" wrote in message
> news:2B3986E9-C819-49C7-AF4E-0B425F2AC606@microsoft.com...
> > Paul,
> > How could i convence my mangement? I might have to give some 10 advantage
> > or
> > disadvantages or do a presentation in detail and prepare a report for
> > which i
> > can say these are the resons for not to go for the co-location option
> > technically. I might have to do a presentation to management. Could you
> > advise how start to do this.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Paul Ford" wrote:
> >
> >> Kris,
> >>
> >> From the brief description that you have listed "There are less remote
> >> users and all users are with in the compnay only few users who or on
> >> vacation or business trip use webmail access to see the email." it is
> >> probably not going to be worth investing in another Exchange server or
> >> moving the server from where the majority of users are located. Instead I
> >> would look at using OWA or RPC over HTTPS and see what the performance is
> >> like.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> "Kris" wrote in message
> >> news:A8D224F5-0088-4823-8F5E-384A02C56618@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Paul,
> >> >
> >> > Know i would like to know your advise is it suggested to move the
> >> > existing
> >> > ex-change server to another location who is 150 Kms far of. Are there
> >> > advantages or its better to be in the company location.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks..
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Paul Ford" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Kris,
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you asking whether you require another Exchange server in the
> >> >> remote
> >> >> location ?
> >> >> If so it will depend on what the network bandwidth, utilisation and
> >> >> latency
> >> >> are between the sites. Another option is to go for OWA or RPC over
> >> >> HTTPS.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Paul Ford
> >> >> Edge IT Ltd
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Kris" wrote in message
> >> >> news:83BF1F18-05EB-4956-A5BC-075E1F69A817@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi All & MVPs,
> >> >> > I have a question and would like to have an expert advise regarding.
> >> >> > Exchange Server Co- Location. At present we have exchange Server
> >> >> > located
> >> >> > in our company premisis which serves to 1500+ employees What is your
> >> >> > openion about Co-location. The nearest ISP is 150 + Kms. Do suggest
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > go
> >> >> > with in the existing setup to be in the company or opt for ISP.Note:
> >> >> > There
> >> >> > are less remote users and all users are with in the compnay only few
> >> >> > users
> >> >> > who or on vacation or business trip use webmail access to see the
> >> >> > email.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am doing a fesibility study in this regards. Kindly if you could
> >> >> > give
> >> >> > me
> >> >> > any documents or presentations or website links which supports your
> >> >> > suggestion. I appricite this.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanking you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Best Regards
> >> >> > Kris
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:31:02 -0700
author: Kris
Re: URGENT: EXCHNAGE SERVER CO-LOCATION
The distance to the ISP matters very little. What does matter is the
connectvity that exists between you. If you've got 1500+ users in one
location, you're going to need a relatively big pipe for them to access the
server, we're talking more than a T1/E1 and not cable/DSL. You'll need DCs
in the colocation center or some directory replication.
If things are working satisfactory now, why change?
"Kris" wrote in message
news:B05559E8-A921-4DBA-8140-6C4DAD9F9A06@microsoft.com...
> Thank you Paul,
> The article has filled some of my knowledge gaps, Yet i am not able to
> calculate the bandwith loss if i have the server co-located to 150 Kms far
> ISP. Though getting colocated is not advaisable esp a distance of 150 Kms.
> But i need to put in black n white to convence the management.
>
> Well if you know any microsoft consultant who don't charge us let me know.
> Else my purpose is not solved.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> "Paul Ford" wrote:
>
>> Kris,
>>
>> I am not saying this is the only or the best option for you and it might
>> be
>> worth getting a Microsoft Exchange Consultant in to assist you with
>> analysing the options and which ones suit you best as they will be able
>> to
>> take a complete look at the system and your business needs. There is an
>> article on Consolidating Exchange servers that may help
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/servercon.mspx
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> "Kris" wrote in message
>> news:2B3986E9-C819-49C7-AF4E-0B425F2AC606@microsoft.com...
>> > Paul,
>> > How could i convence my mangement? I might have to give some 10
>> > advantage
>> > or
>> > disadvantages or do a presentation in detail and prepare a report for
>> > which i
>> > can say these are the resons for not to go for the co-location option
>> > technically. I might have to do a presentation to management. Could you
>> > advise how start to do this.
>> >
>> > Thank you
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Paul Ford" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Kris,
>> >>
>> >> From the brief description that you have listed "There are less
>> >> remote
>> >> users and all users are with in the compnay only few users who or on
>> >> vacation or business trip use webmail access to see the email." it is
>> >> probably not going to be worth investing in another Exchange server or
>> >> moving the server from where the majority of users are located.
>> >> Instead I
>> >> would look at using OWA or RPC over HTTPS and see what the performance
>> >> is
>> >> like.
>> >>
>> >> Paul
>> >>
>> >> "Kris" wrote in message
>> >> news:A8D224F5-0088-4823-8F5E-384A02C56618@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi Paul,
>> >> >
>> >> > Know i would like to know your advise is it suggested to move the
>> >> > existing
>> >> > ex-change server to another location who is 150 Kms far of. Are
>> >> > there
>> >> > advantages or its better to be in the company location.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks..
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Paul Ford" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Kris,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are you asking whether you require another Exchange server in the
>> >> >> remote
>> >> >> location ?
>> >> >> If so it will depend on what the network bandwidth, utilisation and
>> >> >> latency
>> >> >> are between the sites. Another option is to go for OWA or RPC over
>> >> >> HTTPS.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Paul Ford
>> >> >> Edge IT Ltd
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Kris" wrote in message
>> >> >> news:83BF1F18-05EB-4956-A5BC-075E1F69A817@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Hi All & MVPs,
>> >> >> > I have a question and would like to have an expert advise
>> >> >> > regarding.
>> >> >> > Exchange Server Co- Location. At present we have exchange Server
>> >> >> > located
>> >> >> > in our company premisis which serves to 1500+ employees What is
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > openion about Co-location. The nearest ISP is 150 + Kms. Do
>> >> >> > suggest
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > go
>> >> >> > with in the existing setup to be in the company or opt for
>> >> >> > ISP.Note:
>> >> >> > There
>> >> >> > are less remote users and all users are with in the compnay only
>> >> >> > few
>> >> >> > users
>> >> >> > who or on vacation or business trip use webmail access to see the
>> >> >> > email.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am doing a fesibility study in this regards. Kindly if you
>> >> >> > could
>> >> >> > give
>> >> >> > me
>> >> >> > any documents or presentations or website links which supports
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > suggestion. I appricite this.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanking you.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best Regards
>> >> >> > Kris
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:53:06 -0400
author: Ed
Re: URGENT: EXCHNAGE SERVER CO-LOCATION
Hi Ed,
Thank you for your expertise. Can you give 10 + best technical reasons that
i can included in the report sayin that existing solution is better than
co-location. It will have so and so problems etc..
Thank you again..
"Ed" wrote:
> The distance to the ISP matters very little. What does matter is the
> connectvity that exists between you. If you've got 1500+ users in one
> location, you're going to need a relatively big pipe for them to access the
> server, we're talking more than a T1/E1 and not cable/DSL. You'll need DCs
> in the colocation center or some directory replication.
>
> If things are working satisfactory now, why change?
>
>
>
> "Kris" wrote in message
> news:B05559E8-A921-4DBA-8140-6C4DAD9F9A06@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you Paul,
> > The article has filled some of my knowledge gaps, Yet i am not able to
> > calculate the bandwith loss if i have the server co-located to 150 Kms far
> > ISP. Though getting colocated is not advaisable esp a distance of 150 Kms.
> > But i need to put in black n white to convence the management.
> >
> > Well if you know any microsoft consultant who don't charge us let me know.
> > Else my purpose is not solved.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Paul Ford" wrote:
> >
> >> Kris,
> >>
> >> I am not saying this is the only or the best option for you and it might
> >> be
> >> worth getting a Microsoft Exchange Consultant in to assist you with
> >> analysing the options and which ones suit you best as they will be able
> >> to
> >> take a complete look at the system and your business needs. There is an
> >> article on Consolidating Exchange servers that may help
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/servercon.mspx
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> "Kris" wrote in message
> >> news:2B3986E9-C819-49C7-AF4E-0B425F2AC606@microsoft.com...
> >> > Paul,
> >> > How could i convence my mangement? I might have to give some 10
> >> > advantage
> >> > or
> >> > disadvantages or do a presentation in detail and prepare a report for
> >> > which i
> >> > can say these are the resons for not to go for the co-location option
> >> > technically. I might have to do a presentation to management. Could you
> >> > advise how start to do this.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Paul Ford" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Kris,
> >> >>
> >> >> From the brief description that you have listed "There are less
> >> >> remote
> >> >> users and all users are with in the compnay only few users who or on
> >> >> vacation or business trip use webmail access to see the email." it is
> >> >> probably not going to be worth investing in another Exchange server or
> >> >> moving the server from where the majority of users are located.
> >> >> Instead I
> >> >> would look at using OWA or RPC over HTTPS and see what the performance
> >> >> is
> >> >> like.
> >> >>
> >> >> Paul
> >> >>
> >> >> "Kris" wrote in message
> >> >> news:A8D224F5-0088-4823-8F5E-384A02C56618@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi Paul,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Know i would like to know your advise is it suggested to move the
> >> >> > existing
> >> >> > ex-change server to another location who is 150 Kms far of. Are
> >> >> > there
> >> >> > advantages or its better to be in the company location.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Paul Ford" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Kris,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Are you asking whether you require another Exchange server in the
> >> >> >> remote
> >> >> >> location ?
> >> >> >> If so it will depend on what the network bandwidth, utilisation and
> >> >> >> latency
> >> >> >> are between the sites. Another option is to go for OWA or RPC over
> >> >> >> HTTPS.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Regards
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Paul Ford
> >> >> >> Edge IT Ltd
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Kris" wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:83BF1F18-05EB-4956-A5BC-075E1F69A817@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Hi All & MVPs,
> >> >> >> > I have a question and would like to have an expert advise
> >> >> >> > regarding.
> >> >> >> > Exchange Server Co- Location. At present we have exchange Server
> >> >> >> > located
> >> >> >> > in our company premisis which serves to 1500+ employees What is
> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> > openion about Co-location. The nearest ISP is 150 + Kms. Do
> >> >> >> > suggest
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > go
> >> >> >> > with in the existing setup to be in the company or opt for
> >> >> >> > ISP.Note:
> >> >> >> > There
> >> >> >> > are less remote users and all users are with in the compnay only
> >> >> >> > few
> >> >> >> > users
> >> >> >> > who or on vacation or business trip use webmail access to see the
> >> >> >> > email.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am doing a fesibility study in this regards. Kindly if you
> >> >> >> > could
> >> >> >> > give
> >> >> >> > me
> >> >> >> > any documents or presentations or website links which supports
> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> > suggestion. I appricite this.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanking you.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Best Regards
> >> >> >> > Kris
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:44:01 -0700
author: Kris
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