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date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:01:04 -0800,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.design        back       


Two diffeent Forest sharing 1 Exchange Server   
Here one that going to get your folks thinking.  I am part of a company 
(abc.com), we recently purchase another company (123.com) although we have 
establish a trust between the 2 forest.  I am face with an issue and want to 
know what is the best way to design the 2003 Exchange domain.  Since we 
ABC.com own 123.com I would like to setup 1 Exchange Server to host both 
domains.  The issue is that we like to keep emails address separate and the 
outbound email (header) to stay the same, so if someone from 123.com sends an 
email out the header has to say from 123.com and the same rule apply for 
abc.com.  I have consider setting up a separate forest and setting up a 
forest to forest trust on both ends.  But would that resolve the problem?  
Secondly both companies would like to share calendar info.  I would also like 
to setup users on their domain and they also could setup users on our domain. 
 I consider using Associated External Account to manage the users or MIIS 
2003.  But would either one satisfied my requirements.  I told you this would 
be a tricky one.  TIA any input is welcome
date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:01:04 -0800   author:   WooYing

Re: Two diffeent Forest sharing 1 Exchange Server   
I don't think this is too tricky.  The hardest part is figuring out what 
makes sense to your business after this one merger.
If you want to host a single Exchange 2003 org in your forest, you could 
either put it in ABC.com or put it in 123.com or you could be tricky and put 
it in a new forest called NewForest.com if that makes more sense.  You can 
put all of the users in the same forest if you want or you could have two 
Exchange orgs if you wanted (in that case, why not one org in 123.com and 
one in abc.com).

If I understand your requirement correctly, you want all email to look as if 
it were sent from 123.com but your system should receive for 123.com as well 
as ABC.com.  You also want to share administration of the system.  Is that 
correct? If so, put the ORG in ABC.COM forest, and create the users using 
the associated exernal right for 123.com users. Be sure to understand the 
trade-offs of this design so you can properly set expecations.  I suggest 
reading up on the resource forest scenario to understand it better. As for 
email, you can specify that all users have a ABC.COM mail address as their 
primary.  You can additionally add a secondary address type of 123.COM to 
all the users that need it or all of them, whichever is easier.  Change your 
external mail flow to use this server as your inbound route, and you won't 
miss a message.

Does that solve your problem?



"WooYing"  wrote in message 
news:6A333FC7-188E-4315-ABCC-A398B0CCF6EC@microsoft.com...
> Here one that going to get your folks thinking.  I am part of a company
> (abc.com), we recently purchase another company (123.com) although we have
> establish a trust between the 2 forest.  I am face with an issue and want 
> to
> know what is the best way to design the 2003 Exchange domain.  Since we
> ABC.com own 123.com I would like to setup 1 Exchange Server to host both
> domains.  The issue is that we like to keep emails address separate and 
> the
> outbound email (header) to stay the same, so if someone from 123.com sends 
> an
> email out the header has to say from 123.com and the same rule apply for
> abc.com.  I have consider setting up a separate forest and setting up a
> forest to forest trust on both ends.  But would that resolve the problem?
> Secondly both companies would like to share calendar info.  I would also 
> like
> to setup users on their domain and they also could setup users on our 
> domain.
> I consider using Associated External Account to manage the users or MIIS
> 2003.  But would either one satisfied my requirements.  I told you this 
> would
> be a tricky one.  TIA any input is welcome
date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:47:46 -0500   author:   Al Mulnick

Re: Two diffeent Forest sharing 1 Exchange Server   
Al
Thank you for reply, the issues is that both 123.com and ABC.com has to 
remain separate.  Although there is a forest trust between both 
organizations.  We would like to keep users from 123.com to be able to send 
out emails and when they do send out such emails to have 123.com in the 
header.  The same would go for ABC.com, the header has to also say that it 
came from ABC.com.  So as for the requirement go

Users from123.com has to have 123.com in the header
Users from abc.com has to have abc.com in the header
Must have to share resources from both ABC.com and 123.com such as calendar.
Must be able to administrator domain for each any domain.

As far as setting up a separate forest I how can I setup current users 
already on AD on either 123.com or ABC.com since we have AD accounts setup. 
What steps would I take for setting up existing users, do I consider ADMT 
v2.0 .  There is not plans in the near future the merge these domains 
together.  I have consider setting up a separate forest but I also have 
consider setting up a cluster server one at 123.com and the other in 
ABC.com.  Then run VMWare Server on each of these server and setting up an 
Exchange Server for 123.com and one for ABC.com?  The bad point of that is I 
am relying on software to keep the exchange running which I don't care too 
much about.  Let me know what are you thoughs.  Thanks again.


"Al Mulnick"  wrote in message 
news:uILx4RFJGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I don't think this is too tricky.  The hardest part is figuring out what 
>makes sense to your business after this one merger.
> If you want to host a single Exchange 2003 org in your forest, you could 
> either put it in ABC.com or put it in 123.com or you could be tricky and 
> put it in a new forest called NewForest.com if that makes more sense.  You 
> can put all of the users in the same forest if you want or you could have 
> two Exchange orgs if you wanted (in that case, why not one org in 123.com 
> and one in abc.com).
>
> If I understand your requirement correctly, you want all email to look as 
> if it were sent from 123.com but your system should receive for 123.com as 
> well as ABC.com.  You also want to share administration of the system.  Is 
> that correct? If so, put the ORG in ABC.COM forest, and create the users 
> using the associated exernal right for 123.com users. Be sure to 
> understand the trade-offs of this design so you can properly set 
> expecations.  I suggest reading up on the resource forest scenario to 
> understand it better. As for email, you can specify that all users have a 
> ABC.COM mail address as their primary.  You can additionally add a 
> secondary address type of 123.COM to all the users that need it or all of 
> them, whichever is easier.  Change your external mail flow to use this 
> server as your inbound route, and you won't miss a message.
>
> Does that solve your problem?
>
>
>
> "WooYing"  wrote in message 
> news:6A333FC7-188E-4315-ABCC-A398B0CCF6EC@microsoft.com...
>> Here one that going to get your folks thinking.  I am part of a company
>> (abc.com), we recently purchase another company (123.com) although we 
>> have
>> establish a trust between the 2 forest.  I am face with an issue and want 
>> to
>> know what is the best way to design the 2003 Exchange domain.  Since we
>> ABC.com own 123.com I would like to setup 1 Exchange Server to host both
>> domains.  The issue is that we like to keep emails address separate and 
>> the
>> outbound email (header) to stay the same, so if someone from 123.com 
>> sends an
>> email out the header has to say from 123.com and the same rule apply for
>> abc.com.  I have consider setting up a separate forest and setting up a
>> forest to forest trust on both ends.  But would that resolve the problem?
>> Secondly both companies would like to share calendar info.  I would also 
>> like
>> to setup users on their domain and they also could setup users on our 
>> domain.
>> I consider using Associated External Account to manage the users or MIIS
>> 2003.  But would either one satisfied my requirements.  I told you this 
>> would
>> be a tricky one.  TIA any input is welcome
>
>
date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:40:39 -0500   author:   WooYing

Re: Two diffeent Forest sharing 1 Exchange Server   
I would look into the Galy Sync and inter org connector option.
The other option you have is to host ABC.com on the current Exchange server 
and take over the namescpace and own both ABC.com and 123.com and have 
disabled accounts for 123.com  user objects where the 123.com AD account has 
permissions to open the mailbox




"WooYing"  wrote in message 
news:eeWiICtJGHA.3224@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Al
> Thank you for reply, the issues is that both 123.com and ABC.com has to 
> remain separate.  Although there is a forest trust between both 
> organizations.  We would like to keep users from 123.com to be able to 
> send out emails and when they do send out such emails to have 123.com in 
> the header.  The same would go for ABC.com, the header has to also say 
> that it came from ABC.com.  So as for the requirement go
>
> Users from123.com has to have 123.com in the header
> Users from abc.com has to have abc.com in the header
> Must have to share resources from both ABC.com and 123.com such as 
> calendar.
> Must be able to administrator domain for each any domain.
>
> As far as setting up a separate forest I how can I setup current users 
> already on AD on either 123.com or ABC.com since we have AD accounts 
> setup. What steps would I take for setting up existing users, do I 
> consider ADMT v2.0 .  There is not plans in the near future the merge 
> these domains together.  I have consider setting up a separate forest but 
> I also have consider setting up a cluster server one at 123.com and the 
> other in ABC.com.  Then run VMWare Server on each of these server and 
> setting up an Exchange Server for 123.com and one for ABC.com?  The bad 
> point of that is I am relying on software to keep the exchange running 
> which I don't care too much about.  Let me know what are you thoughs. 
> Thanks again.
>
>
> "Al Mulnick"  wrote in message 
> news:uILx4RFJGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>I don't think this is too tricky.  The hardest part is figuring out what 
>>makes sense to your business after this one merger.
>> If you want to host a single Exchange 2003 org in your forest, you could 
>> either put it in ABC.com or put it in 123.com or you could be tricky and 
>> put it in a new forest called NewForest.com if that makes more sense. 
>> You can put all of the users in the same forest if you want or you could 
>> have two Exchange orgs if you wanted (in that case, why not one org in 
>> 123.com and one in abc.com).
>>
>> If I understand your requirement correctly, you want all email to look as 
>> if it were sent from 123.com but your system should receive for 123.com 
>> as well as ABC.com.  You also want to share administration of the system. 
>> Is that correct? If so, put the ORG in ABC.COM forest, and create the 
>> users using the associated exernal right for 123.com users. Be sure to 
>> understand the trade-offs of this design so you can properly set 
>> expecations.  I suggest reading up on the resource forest scenario to 
>> understand it better. As for email, you can specify that all users have a 
>> ABC.COM mail address as their primary.  You can additionally add a 
>> secondary address type of 123.COM to all the users that need it or all of 
>> them, whichever is easier.  Change your external mail flow to use this 
>> server as your inbound route, and you won't miss a message.
>>
>> Does that solve your problem?
>>
>>
>>
>> "WooYing"  wrote in message 
>> news:6A333FC7-188E-4315-ABCC-A398B0CCF6EC@microsoft.com...
>>> Here one that going to get your folks thinking.  I am part of a company
>>> (abc.com), we recently purchase another company (123.com) although we 
>>> have
>>> establish a trust between the 2 forest.  I am face with an issue and 
>>> want to
>>> know what is the best way to design the 2003 Exchange domain.  Since we
>>> ABC.com own 123.com I would like to setup 1 Exchange Server to host both
>>> domains.  The issue is that we like to keep emails address separate and 
>>> the
>>> outbound email (header) to stay the same, so if someone from 123.com 
>>> sends an
>>> email out the header has to say from 123.com and the same rule apply for
>>> abc.com.  I have consider setting up a separate forest and setting up a
>>> forest to forest trust on both ends.  But would that resolve the 
>>> problem?
>>> Secondly both companies would like to share calendar info.  I would also 
>>> like
>>> to setup users on their domain and they also could setup users on our 
>>> domain.
>>> I consider using Associated External Account to manage the users or MIIS
>>> 2003.  But would either one satisfied my requirements.  I told you this 
>>> would
>>> be a tricky one.  TIA any input is welcome
>>
>>
>
>
date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:47:21 -0500   author:   Evar

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