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date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:43:31 -0000,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.connectivity        back       


IPhone connectivity to exchange & POP3 port 110   
Hi,
 I've had a bit of a can of worms opened at work, in that the directors (3) 
have all gone out and bought IPhones.
Needless to say they want their corporate exchange mail sent to the 
handsets, the can of worms is how to do it securely.

My initial research shows that a lot of people have done this by opening up 
port 110 on their firewalls and then using the pop3 connector.

My gut feeling is that this is not secure, and in theory if a hacker scaned 
our ip range for open ports, they will see 110 open and then assume that 
there is a mailserver sat behind the port. Our exchange server is not in a 
DMZ so if it was compromised, so would the entire network!

Has anyone else tried this or is it a big no no?

TIA
date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:43:31 -0000   author:   Fred

Re: IPhone connectivity to exchange & POP3 port 110   
"Fred"  wrote in message 
news:43145380-0202-4C69-9546-F8C30A7D92C3@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> I've had a bit of a can of worms opened at work, in that the directors (3) 
> have all gone out and bought IPhones.
> Needless to say they want their corporate exchange mail sent to the 
> handsets, the can of worms is how to do it securely.
>
> My initial research shows that a lot of people have done this by opening 
> up port 110 on their firewalls and then using the pop3 connector.
>
> My gut feeling is that this is not secure, and in theory if a hacker 
> scaned our ip range for open ports, they will see 110 open and then assume 
> that there is a mailserver sat behind the port. Our exchange server is not 
> in a DMZ so if it was compromised, so would the entire network!
>
> Has anyone else tried this or is it a big no no?
>
> TIA

I think iPhones only use IMAP, although I've not seen one and can't confirm 
it.  Email servers are easy enough to locate, since all that is required is 
a response on port 25, and MX records are, of course, in the public domain. 
Opening port 110 (or 143 for IMAP) is unlikely to make the situation much 
worse.  One thing to consider, though, is that usernames and passwords will 
be transmitted during a POP or IMAP session - you should consider using SSL 
if possible, but I hear many stories of the difficulty of setting up SSL 
protected IMAP accounts on the iPhone.

Lee.

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date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:00:40 -0000   author:   Lee Derbyshire [MVP] email a@t leederbyshire d.0.t c.0.m

Re: IPhone connectivity to exchange & POP3 port 110   
Thanks for that Lee.
The Iphone does come with a pop connector, however i've just found out that 
they also come with an e mail account from O2.
What i think i will do is get SMTP traffic forwarded to the O2 account from 
exchange, and then get them to reply via our ISP directly.

Cheers



"Lee Derbyshire [MVP]" <email a@t leederbyshire d.0.t c.0.m> wrote in 
message news:OLYFs%23DiIHA.5780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Fred"  wrote in message 
> news:43145380-0202-4C69-9546-F8C30A7D92C3@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>> I've had a bit of a can of worms opened at work, in that the directors 
>> (3) have all gone out and bought IPhones.
>> Needless to say they want their corporate exchange mail sent to the 
>> handsets, the can of worms is how to do it securely.
>>
>> My initial research shows that a lot of people have done this by opening 
>> up port 110 on their firewalls and then using the pop3 connector.
>>
>> My gut feeling is that this is not secure, and in theory if a hacker 
>> scaned our ip range for open ports, they will see 110 open and then 
>> assume that there is a mailserver sat behind the port. Our exchange 
>> server is not in a DMZ so if it was compromised, so would the entire 
>> network!
>>
>> Has anyone else tried this or is it a big no no?
>>
>> TIA
>
> I think iPhones only use IMAP, although I've not seen one and can't 
> confirm it.  Email servers are easy enough to locate, since all that is 
> required is a response on port 25, and MX records are, of course, in the 
> public domain. Opening port 110 (or 143 for IMAP) is unlikely to make the 
> situation much worse.  One thing to consider, though, is that usernames 
> and passwords will be transmitted during a POP or IMAP session - you 
> should consider using SSL if possible, but I hear many stories of the 
> difficulty of setting up SSL protected IMAP accounts on the iPhone.
>
> Lee.
>
> -- 
> ______________________________________
>
> Outlook Web Access For PDA , OWA For WAP
> www.leederbyshire.com
> email a@t leederbyshire d.0.t c.0.m
> ______________________________________
>
>
date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:19:05 -0000   author:   Fred

Re: IPhone connectivity to exchange & POP3 port 110   
FYI, iPhone will support EAS this summer when iPhone 2.0 update is released.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/


-- 
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2008
Microsoft Certified Partner


"Fred"  wrote in message 
news:0E3D86BC-7FEE-46EE-AD3D-433E433EA727@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for that Lee.
> The Iphone does come with a pop connector, however i've just found out 
> that they also come with an e mail account from O2.
> What i think i will do is get SMTP traffic forwarded to the O2 account 
> from exchange, and then get them to reply via our ISP directly.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> "Lee Derbyshire [MVP]" <email a@t leederbyshire d.0.t c.0.m> wrote in 
> message news:OLYFs%23DiIHA.5780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Fred"  wrote in message 
>> news:43145380-0202-4C69-9546-F8C30A7D92C3@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi,
>>> I've had a bit of a can of worms opened at work, in that the directors 
>>> (3) have all gone out and bought IPhones.
>>> Needless to say they want their corporate exchange mail sent to the 
>>> handsets, the can of worms is how to do it securely.
>>>
>>> My initial research shows that a lot of people have done this by opening 
>>> up port 110 on their firewalls and then using the pop3 connector.
>>>
>>> My gut feeling is that this is not secure, and in theory if a hacker 
>>> scaned our ip range for open ports, they will see 110 open and then 
>>> assume that there is a mailserver sat behind the port. Our exchange 
>>> server is not in a DMZ so if it was compromised, so would the entire 
>>> network!
>>>
>>> Has anyone else tried this or is it a big no no?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> I think iPhones only use IMAP, although I've not seen one and can't 
>> confirm it.  Email servers are easy enough to locate, since all that is 
>> required is a response on port 25, and MX records are, of course, in the 
>> public domain. Opening port 110 (or 143 for IMAP) is unlikely to make the 
>> situation much worse.  One thing to consider, though, is that usernames 
>> and passwords will be transmitted during a POP or IMAP session - you 
>> should consider using SSL if possible, but I hear many stories of the 
>> difficulty of setting up SSL protected IMAP accounts on the iPhone.
>>
>> Lee.
>>
>> -- 
>> ______________________________________
>>
>> Outlook Web Access For PDA , OWA For WAP
>> www.leederbyshire.com
>> email a@t leederbyshire d.0.t c.0.m
>> ______________________________________
>>
>>
>
date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:31:08 -0400   author:   John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]

Re: IPhone connectivity to exchange & POP3 port 110   
Fred  wrote:
> Hi,
> I've had a bit of a can of worms opened at work, in that the
> directors (3) have all gone out and bought IPhones.
> Needless to say they want their corporate exchange mail sent to the
> handsets, the can of worms is how to do it securely.
>
> My initial research shows that a lot of people have done this by
> opening up port 110 on their firewalls and then using the pop3
> connector.
> My gut feeling is that this is not secure, and in theory if a hacker
> scaned our ip range for open ports, they will see 110 open and then
> assume that there is a mailserver sat behind the port. Our exchange
> server is not in a DMZ so if it was compromised, so would the entire
> network!
> Has anyone else tried this or is it a big no no?
>
> TIA

Tell them to wait until ActiveSync is supported on iPhones. What you can use 
now is IMAP - but you can't "secure" the device unless you can remotely 
manage/wipe it. This is a company policy issue but should be driven by sound 
IT decisions, not people who want shiny new toys, no offense to the lovely 
and talented iPhone itself.
date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:39:28 -0400   author:   Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

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