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date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:47:03 -0700,
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Re: CCR Clustering Questions
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:41:13 -0700, KJK
wrote:
>Just one further question.
>
>On point 2, you wrote the FSW is necessary for automatic failovers.
>
>If the FSW was unavailable would it be possible to do a manual failover or
>failback?
Check the latest guidance on what to do if the FSW is unavail:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/04/03/448615.aspx
>
>thanks again.
>
>"Bharat Suneja [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> Responses inline.
>>
>> --
>> Bharat Suneja
>> Microsoft Corporation
>> ----------------------------------
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
>> newsgroup purposes only.
>>
>>
>> "KJK" wrote in message
>> news:234F2B7F-BA95-41C3-A3B9-48EFB3A118B5@microsoft.com...
>> >I have several questions in regards to CCR Clustering.
>> >
>> > 1. I am planning on dropping the quorum(File-Witness Share) on one of my
>> > Hub
>> > transport servers. If the hub Transport server were to go down could the
>> > cluster fail over?
>>
>> No, the cluster would not failover if the FSW wasn't available.
>>
>> >
>> > 2. If the Quorum were to go down would the active Exchange Node be down as
>> > well or just the Cluster operations?
>>
>> Using a Majority Node Set quorum with a File Share Witness, each node has a
>> local copy of the quorum, in addition to the FSW having that information.
>> The quorum doesn't really go down in this case. If the FSW is unavailable,
>> the cluster is not impacted as long as both nodes are available. The FSW is
>> required for automatic failovers.
>>
>> >
>> > 3. If the Hub Transport server were down that was holding the FWS would it
>> > be possible to form a new FWS on another server? Is this a difficult
>> > operation?
>>
>> Fairly simple to recreate the FSW on another server - it's the same
>> procedure you used to create the original FSW, doesn't take long, and can be
>> scripted.
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>
date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:55:26 -0400
author: Andy David {MVP}
Re: CCR Clustering Questions
Thats a excellent article. Glad I saw that.
BUT, I am still wondering if failover is possible if the FSW is unavailable?
"Andy David {MVP}" wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:41:13 -0700, KJK
> wrote:
>
> >Just one further question.
> >
> >On point 2, you wrote the FSW is necessary for automatic failovers.
> >
> >If the FSW was unavailable would it be possible to do a manual failover or
> >failback?
>
> Check the latest guidance on what to do if the FSW is unavail:
>
> http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/04/03/448615.aspx
>
>
> >
> >thanks again.
> >
> >"Bharat Suneja [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> Responses inline.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bharat Suneja
> >> Microsoft Corporation
> >> ----------------------------------
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights. Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
> >> newsgroup purposes only.
> >>
> >>
> >> "KJK" wrote in message
> >> news:234F2B7F-BA95-41C3-A3B9-48EFB3A118B5@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have several questions in regards to CCR Clustering.
> >> >
> >> > 1. I am planning on dropping the quorum(File-Witness Share) on one of my
> >> > Hub
> >> > transport servers. If the hub Transport server were to go down could the
> >> > cluster fail over?
> >>
> >> No, the cluster would not failover if the FSW wasn't available.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 2. If the Quorum were to go down would the active Exchange Node be down as
> >> > well or just the Cluster operations?
> >>
> >> Using a Majority Node Set quorum with a File Share Witness, each node has a
> >> local copy of the quorum, in addition to the FSW having that information.
> >> The quorum doesn't really go down in this case. If the FSW is unavailable,
> >> the cluster is not impacted as long as both nodes are available. The FSW is
> >> required for automatic failovers.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 3. If the Hub Transport server were down that was holding the FWS would it
> >> > be possible to form a new FWS on another server? Is this a difficult
> >> > operation?
> >>
> >> Fairly simple to recreate the FSW on another server - it's the same
> >> procedure you used to create the original FSW, doesn't take long, and can be
> >> scripted.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >>
> >>
>
date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:19:00 -0700
author: KJK
Re: CCR Clustering Questions
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:19:00 -0700, KJK
wrote:
>Thats a excellent article. Glad I saw that.
>
>BUT, I am still wondering if failover is possible if the FSW is unavailable?
No, thats why you have to create a new one and force quorum.
>
>"Andy David {MVP}" wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:41:13 -0700, KJK
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Just one further question.
>> >
>> >On point 2, you wrote the FSW is necessary for automatic failovers.
>> >
>> >If the FSW was unavailable would it be possible to do a manual failover or
>> >failback?
>>
>> Check the latest guidance on what to do if the FSW is unavail:
>>
>> http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/04/03/448615.aspx
>>
>>
>> >
>> >thanks again.
>> >
>> >"Bharat Suneja [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Responses inline.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bharat Suneja
>> >> Microsoft Corporation
>> >> ----------------------------------
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> rights. Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
>> >> newsgroup purposes only.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "KJK" wrote in message
>> >> news:234F2B7F-BA95-41C3-A3B9-48EFB3A118B5@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have several questions in regards to CCR Clustering.
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. I am planning on dropping the quorum(File-Witness Share) on one of my
>> >> > Hub
>> >> > transport servers. If the hub Transport server were to go down could the
>> >> > cluster fail over?
>> >>
>> >> No, the cluster would not failover if the FSW wasn't available.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. If the Quorum were to go down would the active Exchange Node be down as
>> >> > well or just the Cluster operations?
>> >>
>> >> Using a Majority Node Set quorum with a File Share Witness, each node has a
>> >> local copy of the quorum, in addition to the FSW having that information.
>> >> The quorum doesn't really go down in this case. If the FSW is unavailable,
>> >> the cluster is not impacted as long as both nodes are available. The FSW is
>> >> required for automatic failovers.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > 3. If the Hub Transport server were down that was holding the FWS would it
>> >> > be possible to form a new FWS on another server? Is this a difficult
>> >> > operation?
>> >>
>> >> Fairly simple to recreate the FSW on another server - it's the same
>> >> procedure you used to create the original FSW, doesn't take long, and can be
>> >> scripted.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
>>
date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:13 -0400
author: Andy David {MVP}
Re: CCR Clustering Questions
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:13 -0400, Andy David {MVP}
wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:19:00 -0700, KJK
> wrote:
>
>>Thats a excellent article. Glad I saw that.
>>
>>BUT, I am still wondering if failover is possible if the FSW is unavailable?
>
>No, thats why you have to create a new one and force quorum.
( Im assuming a data center loss scenario here - otherwise simply
create a new FSW if the orig one is not avail anymore)
>
>>
>>"Andy David {MVP}" wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:41:13 -0700, KJK
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Just one further question.
>>> >
>>> >On point 2, you wrote the FSW is necessary for automatic failovers.
>>> >
>>> >If the FSW was unavailable would it be possible to do a manual failover or
>>> >failback?
>>>
>>> Check the latest guidance on what to do if the FSW is unavail:
>>>
>>> http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/04/03/448615.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >thanks again.
>>> >
>>> >"Bharat Suneja [MSFT]" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Responses inline.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Bharat Suneja
>>> >> Microsoft Corporation
>>> >> ----------------------------------
>>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> >> rights. Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
>>> >> newsgroup purposes only.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "KJK" wrote in message
>>> >> news:234F2B7F-BA95-41C3-A3B9-48EFB3A118B5@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >I have several questions in regards to CCR Clustering.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 1. I am planning on dropping the quorum(File-Witness Share) on one of my
>>> >> > Hub
>>> >> > transport servers. If the hub Transport server were to go down could the
>>> >> > cluster fail over?
>>> >>
>>> >> No, the cluster would not failover if the FSW wasn't available.
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2. If the Quorum were to go down would the active Exchange Node be down as
>>> >> > well or just the Cluster operations?
>>> >>
>>> >> Using a Majority Node Set quorum with a File Share Witness, each node has a
>>> >> local copy of the quorum, in addition to the FSW having that information.
>>> >> The quorum doesn't really go down in this case. If the FSW is unavailable,
>>> >> the cluster is not impacted as long as both nodes are available. The FSW is
>>> >> required for automatic failovers.
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 3. If the Hub Transport server were down that was holding the FWS would it
>>> >> > be possible to form a new FWS on another server? Is this a difficult
>>> >> > operation?
>>> >>
>>> >> Fairly simple to recreate the FSW on another server - it's the same
>>> >> procedure you used to create the original FSW, doesn't take long, and can be
>>> >> scripted.
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:46:01 -0400
author: Andy David {MVP}
Re: CCR Clustering Questions
Excellent thanks.
"Andy David {MVP}" wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:32:13 -0400, Andy David {MVP}
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:19:00 -0700, KJK
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Thats a excellent article. Glad I saw that.
> >>
> >>BUT, I am still wondering if failover is possible if the FSW is unavailable?
> >
> >No, thats why you have to create a new one and force quorum.
>
> ( Im assuming a data center loss scenario here - otherwise simply
> create a new FSW if the orig one is not avail anymore)
>
>
> >
> >>
> >>"Andy David {MVP}" wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:41:13 -0700, KJK
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >Just one further question.
> >>> >
> >>> >On point 2, you wrote the FSW is necessary for automatic failovers.
> >>> >
> >>> >If the FSW was unavailable would it be possible to do a manual failover or
> >>> >failback?
> >>>
> >>> Check the latest guidance on what to do if the FSW is unavail:
> >>>
> >>> http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/04/03/448615.aspx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >thanks again.
> >>> >
> >>> >"Bharat Suneja [MSFT]" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Responses inline.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Bharat Suneja
> >>> >> Microsoft Corporation
> >>> >> ----------------------------------
> >>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >>> >> rights. Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
> >>> >> newsgroup purposes only.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "KJK" wrote in message
> >>> >> news:234F2B7F-BA95-41C3-A3B9-48EFB3A118B5@microsoft.com...
> >>> >> >I have several questions in regards to CCR Clustering.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > 1. I am planning on dropping the quorum(File-Witness Share) on one of my
> >>> >> > Hub
> >>> >> > transport servers. If the hub Transport server were to go down could the
> >>> >> > cluster fail over?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> No, the cluster would not failover if the FSW wasn't available.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > 2. If the Quorum were to go down would the active Exchange Node be down as
> >>> >> > well or just the Cluster operations?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Using a Majority Node Set quorum with a File Share Witness, each node has a
> >>> >> local copy of the quorum, in addition to the FSW having that information.
> >>> >> The quorum doesn't really go down in this case. If the FSW is unavailable,
> >>> >> the cluster is not impacted as long as both nodes are available. The FSW is
> >>> >> required for automatic failovers.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > 3. If the Hub Transport server were down that was holding the FWS would it
> >>> >> > be possible to form a new FWS on another server? Is this a difficult
> >>> >> > operation?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Fairly simple to recreate the FSW on another server - it's the same
> >>> >> procedure you used to create the original FSW, doesn't take long, and can be
> >>> >> scripted.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Thanks.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
>
date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:56:06 -0700
author: KJK
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