How to move Microsoft Search Service on an Exchange cluster

How to move Microsoft Search Service on an Exchange cluster

Hi,

We are changing SAN's on a multi-node Cluster, and moving all data on the 
old SAN disk resources to new one...

We have had problems moving the MS Search service files that were on the SAN 
to be removed...

We followed some of the procedures we found on Microsoft, but no help...

As of now, on the first EV, MS Search is not working, so we will be calling 
MS to solve that, but was wondering if anyone has done this before...

Thanks !!

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date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:27:57 -0400 author: Thinkpad21

Re: How to move Microsoft Search Service on an Exchange cluster

many times.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830189/en-us


"Thinkpad21"  wrote in message 
news:eHFgWNLmIHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> We are changing SAN's on a multi-node Cluster, and moving all data on the 
> old SAN disk resources to new one...
>
> We have had problems moving the MS Search service files that were on the 
> SAN to be removed...
>
> We followed some of the procedures we found on Microsoft, but no help...
>
> As of now, on the first EV, MS Search is not working, so we will be 
> calling MS to solve that, but was wondering if anyone has done this 
> before...
>
> Thanks !!
>
> -- 
>
>

date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:24:45 -0700 author: John Fullbright fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom

Re: How to move Microsoft Search Service on an Exchange cluster

Yep, I saw this article, but was very hesitant to Delete the system 
attendant resource...

Is there a way to do it without having to delete the system attendant. The 
environment has about 35000 users spread on 5 nodes, so was hesitant to do a 
drastic step like this...

P.S. Even with this procedure, can I change the drive letter that MS Search 
is running on, instead of for example the L: drive that use to be the 
original drive for EVS Stores/MS Search on SAN, use the J: drive that is on 
the new SAN.

Thanks very much !!!

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"John Fullbright" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message 
news:uKd8DOMmIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> many times.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830189/en-us
>
>
> "Thinkpad21"  wrote in message 
> news:eHFgWNLmIHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are changing SAN's on a multi-node Cluster, and moving all data on the 
>> old SAN disk resources to new one...
>>
>> We have had problems moving the MS Search service files that were on the 
>> SAN to be removed...
>>
>> We followed some of the procedures we found on Microsoft, but no help...
>>
>> As of now, on the first EV, MS Search is not working, so we will be 
>> calling MS to solve that, but was wondering if anyone has done this 
>> before...
>>
>> Thanks !!
>>
>> -- 
>>
>>
>
>

date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:35:11 -0400 author: Thinkpad21

Re: How to move Microsoft Search Service on an Exchange cluster

The information is stored in active directory.  When you recreate the SA, it 
pulls the config.

If the files still exist somewhere, you have a couple of other options. 
Without the gatherer logs, this is really the only way.


"Thinkpad21"  wrote in message 
news:O%23cCpUMmIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Yep, I saw this article, but was very hesitant to Delete the system 
> attendant resource...
>
> Is there a way to do it without having to delete the system attendant. The 
> environment has about 35000 users spread on 5 nodes, so was hesitant to do 
> a drastic step like this...
>
> P.S. Even with this procedure, can I change the drive letter that MS 
> Search is running on, instead of for example the L: drive that use to be 
> the original drive for EVS Stores/MS Search on SAN, use the J: drive that 
> is on the new SAN.
>
> Thanks very much !!!
>
> -- 
> -- 
> ---
>
> "John Fullbright" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message 
> news:uKd8DOMmIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> many times.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830189/en-us
>>
>>
>> "Thinkpad21"  wrote in message 
>> news:eHFgWNLmIHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We are changing SAN's on a multi-node Cluster, and moving all data on 
>>> the old SAN disk resources to new one...
>>>
>>> We have had problems moving the MS Search service files that were on the 
>>> SAN to be removed...
>>>
>>> We followed some of the procedures we found on Microsoft, but no help...
>>>
>>> As of now, on the first EV, MS Search is not working, so we will be 
>>> calling MS to solve that, but was wondering if anyone has done this 
>>> before...
>>>
>>> Thanks !!
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:15:11 -0700 author: John Fullbright fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom

Re: How to move Microsoft Search Service on an Exchange cluster

Well, one other way I was thinking was to bring the EVS down, bring back up 
the Disk resources, to an offline copy ( using Robocopy ) with all 
permissions and directory structure, then interchange the Disk resource 
drive letter to have the new drive take over the old drive letter, and bring 
things back up...

But I was told by someone that they had tried that on a different Exchange 
2003 cluster and ran into problems, although, I have no description of what 
problems...

Thanks !!!

-- 
"John Fullbright" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message 
news:u0HGxLNmIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The information is stored in active directory.  When you recreate the SA, 
> it pulls the config.
>
> If the files still exist somewhere, you have a couple of other options. 
> Without the gatherer logs, this is really the only way.
>
>
> "Thinkpad21"  wrote in message 
> news:O%23cCpUMmIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Yep, I saw this article, but was very hesitant to Delete the system 
>> attendant resource...
>>
>> Is there a way to do it without having to delete the system attendant. 
>> The environment has about 35000 users spread on 5 nodes, so was hesitant 
>> to do a drastic step like this...
>>
>> P.S. Even with this procedure, can I change the drive letter that MS 
>> Search is running on, instead of for example the L: drive that use to be 
>> the original drive for EVS Stores/MS Search on SAN, use the J: drive that 
>> is on the new SAN.
>>
>> Thanks very much !!!
>>
>> -- 
>> -- 
>> ---
>>
>> "John Fullbright" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message 
>> news:uKd8DOMmIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> many times.
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830189/en-us
>>>
>>>
>>> "Thinkpad21"  wrote in message 
>>> news:eHFgWNLmIHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We are changing SAN's on a multi-node Cluster, and moving all data on 
>>>> the old SAN disk resources to new one...
>>>>
>>>> We have had problems moving the MS Search service files that were on 
>>>> the SAN to be removed...
>>>>
>>>> We followed some of the procedures we found on Microsoft, but no 
>>>> help...
>>>>
>>>> As of now, on the first EV, MS Search is not working, so we will be 
>>>> calling MS to solve that, but was wondering if anyone has done this 
>>>> before...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks !!
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:20:06 -0400 author: Thinkpad21

Re: How to move Microsoft Search Service on an Exchange cluster

If you offline copy all the gatherer logs in the right place, it's simpler:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310586/en-us


"Thinkpad21"  wrote in message 
news:Oho8MPNmIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Well, one other way I was thinking was to bring the EVS down, bring back 
> up the Disk resources, to an offline copy ( using Robocopy ) with all 
> permissions and directory structure, then interchange the Disk resource 
> drive letter to have the new drive take over the old drive letter, and 
> bring things back up...
>
> But I was told by someone that they had tried that on a different Exchange 
> 2003 cluster and ran into problems, although, I have no description of 
> what problems...
>
> Thanks !!!
>
> -- 
> "John Fullbright" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message 
> news:u0HGxLNmIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The information is stored in active directory.  When you recreate the SA, 
>> it pulls the config.
>>
>> If the files still exist somewhere, you have a couple of other options. 
>> Without the gatherer logs, this is really the only way.
>>
>>
>> "Thinkpad21"  wrote in message 
>> news:O%23cCpUMmIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Yep, I saw this article, but was very hesitant to Delete the system 
>>> attendant resource...
>>>
>>> Is there a way to do it without having to delete the system attendant. 
>>> The environment has about 35000 users spread on 5 nodes, so was hesitant 
>>> to do a drastic step like this...
>>>
>>> P.S. Even with this procedure, can I change the drive letter that MS 
>>> Search is running on, instead of for example the L: drive that use to be 
>>> the original drive for EVS Stores/MS Search on SAN, use the J: drive 
>>> that is on the new SAN.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much !!!
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> -- 
>>> ---
>>>
>>> "John Fullbright" <fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom> wrote in message 
>>> news:uKd8DOMmIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> many times.
>>>>
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830189/en-us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Thinkpad21"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:eHFgWNLmIHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are changing SAN's on a multi-node Cluster, and moving all data on 
>>>>> the old SAN disk resources to new one...
>>>>>
>>>>> We have had problems moving the MS Search service files that were on 
>>>>> the SAN to be removed...
>>>>>
>>>>> We followed some of the procedures we found on Microsoft, but no 
>>>>> help...
>>>>>
>>>>> As of now, on the first EV, MS Search is not working, so we will be 
>>>>> calling MS to solve that, but was wondering if anyone has done this 
>>>>> before...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks !!
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:48:14 -0700 author: John Fullbright fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom