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date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:44:50 +0800,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.clustering        back       


Windows Server 2008 Cluster   
I'm reading the 
article(http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/05/448338.aspx) by Scott 
Schnoll.
I'm curious about windows 2008 multi-subnet failover cluster bandwidth 
requirement.
If deploy CCR with Windows 2008 multi-subnet cluster, how many bandwidth is 
requirement between 2 CCR Node?

BR,

Jammy
date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:44:50 +0800   author:   Jammy-MVP AM

Re: Windows Server 2008 Cluster   
The bandwidth requirements for replication are no different than CCR nodes 
on the same subnet/in the same datacenter - it depends on the volume of 
email.

-- 
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------



"Jammy-MVP" <Jammylo@ms4.hinet.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message 
news:137834EB-C301-4E84-BA7E-D305C83DFE47@microsoft.com...
> I'm reading the 
> article(http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/05/448338.aspx) by Scott 
> Schnoll.
> I'm curious about windows 2008 multi-subnet failover cluster bandwidth 
> requirement.
> If deploy CCR with Windows 2008 multi-subnet cluster, how many bandwidth 
> is requirement between 2 CCR Node?
>
> BR,
>
> Jammy
date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:31:24 -0700   author:   Bharat Suneja [MVP]

Re: Windows Server 2008 Cluster   
No minimus bandwidth requirements?
If no minimus requirements it'll be challenge by my customer.
Have any official DOC for this topic?

BR,
Jammy

"Bharat Suneja [MVP]"  wrote in message 
news:OiHMJG0gIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The bandwidth requirements for replication are no different than CCR nodes 
> on the same subnet/in the same datacenter - it depends on the volume of 
> email.
>
> -- 
> Bharat Suneja
> MVP - Exchange
> www.zenprise.com
> NEW blog location:
> exchangepedia.com/blog
> ----------------------------
>
>
>
> "Jammy-MVP" <Jammylo@ms4.hinet.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message 
> news:137834EB-C301-4E84-BA7E-D305C83DFE47@microsoft.com...
>> I'm reading the 
>> article(http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/05/448338.aspx) by 
>> Scott Schnoll.
>> I'm curious about windows 2008 multi-subnet failover cluster bandwidth 
>> requirement.
>> If deploy CCR with Windows 2008 multi-subnet cluster, how many bandwidth 
>> is requirement between 2 CCR Node?
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jammy
>
date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:30:33 +0800   author:   Jammy-MVP AM

Re: Windows Server 2008 Cluster   
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:44:50 +0800, "Jammy-MVP"
<Jammylo@ms4.hinet.net.NOSPAM> wrote:

>I'm reading the 
>article(http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/05/448338.aspx) by Scott 
>Schnoll.
>I'm curious about windows 2008 multi-subnet failover cluster bandwidth 
>requirement.
>If deploy CCR with Windows 2008 multi-subnet cluster, how many bandwidth is 
>requirement between 2 CCR Node?
>
>BR,
>
>Jammy 

Think about it a little.

The replication is 1MB log files from site A to site B. There's no
minimum bandwidth and no maximum. The practical minimum is how far
behind you are prepared to allow your logs to become. The lower the
bandwidth the slower the log files go.

Then of course there's what happens after the failover. What is YOUR
minimum bandwidth requirement per user for the users to access email
when it's failed over to site B.
date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:05:39 -0400   author:   Mark Arnold [MVP]

Re: Windows Server 2008 Cluster   
"Jammy-MVP" <Jammylo@ms4.hinet.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message 
news:E9C312AA-4BDE-4764-AC87-2C6A66FB48CE@microsoft.com...
> No minimus bandwidth requirements?
> If no minimus requirements it'll be challenge by my customer.
> Have any official DOC for this topic?

Like Bharat said, it really is 100% dependent on the amount of traffic that 
you will be replicating. Very small amounts require very little bandwidth.


-- 
Russ Kaufmann
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp

The next ClusterHelp classes are:
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date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:40:53 -0600   author:   Russ Kaufmann [MVP]

Re: Windows Server 2008 Cluster   
Planning for Cluster Continuous Replication
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123996(EXCHG.80).aspx

"All networks that are used to replicate transaction logs must provide 
adequate bandwidth and sufficiently low latency to copy the log files in a 
timely manner, so that whenever possible, there is no backlog of log files."

Exchange doesn't test the bandwidth between two nodes pre or post 
installation, so there's no "minimum bandwidth" requirement.

Any product that does replication at the application/file/block layer will 
incurr these bandwidth costs. In case of CCR, if you don't have adequate 
bandwidth, the replica will be behind the active copy of the Storage Group 
on the active node. If it's too far behind, you will face issues with 
failovers or data loss.
-- 
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
--------------------------------



"Jammy-MVP" <Jammylo@ms4.hinet.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message 
news:E9C312AA-4BDE-4764-AC87-2C6A66FB48CE@microsoft.com...
> No minimus bandwidth requirements?
> If no minimus requirements it'll be challenge by my customer.
> Have any official DOC for this topic?
>
> BR,
> Jammy
>
> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]"  wrote in message 
> news:OiHMJG0gIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> The bandwidth requirements for replication are no different than CCR 
>> nodes on the same subnet/in the same datacenter - it depends on the 
>> volume of email.
>>
>> -- 
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MVP - Exchange
>> www.zenprise.com
>> NEW blog location:
>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>> ----------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jammy-MVP" <Jammylo@ms4.hinet.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message 
>> news:137834EB-C301-4E84-BA7E-D305C83DFE47@microsoft.com...
>>> I'm reading the 
>>> article(http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/05/448338.aspx) by 
>>> Scott Schnoll.
>>> I'm curious about windows 2008 multi-subnet failover cluster bandwidth 
>>> requirement.
>>> If deploy CCR with Windows 2008 multi-subnet cluster, how many bandwidth 
>>> is requirement between 2 CCR Node?
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Jammy
>>
>
date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:26:42 -0700   author:   Bharat Suneja [MVP]

Re: Windows Server 2008 Cluster   
I want say thanks for all your's reply.

Jammy

"Bharat Suneja [MVP]"  wrote in message 
news:u4BoRx4gIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Planning for Cluster Continuous Replication
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123996(EXCHG.80).aspx
>
> "All networks that are used to replicate transaction logs must provide 
> adequate bandwidth and sufficiently low latency to copy the log files in a 
> timely manner, so that whenever possible, there is no backlog of log 
> files."
>
> Exchange doesn't test the bandwidth between two nodes pre or post 
> installation, so there's no "minimum bandwidth" requirement.
>
> Any product that does replication at the application/file/block layer will 
> incurr these bandwidth costs. In case of CCR, if you don't have adequate 
> bandwidth, the replica will be behind the active copy of the Storage Group 
> on the active node. If it's too far behind, you will face issues with 
> failovers or data loss.
> -- 
> Bharat Suneja
> MVP - Exchange
> www.zenprise.com
> NEW blog location:
> exchangepedia.com/blog
> --------------------------------
>
>
>
> "Jammy-MVP" <Jammylo@ms4.hinet.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message 
> news:E9C312AA-4BDE-4764-AC87-2C6A66FB48CE@microsoft.com...
>> No minimus bandwidth requirements?
>> If no minimus requirements it'll be challenge by my customer.
>> Have any official DOC for this topic?
>>
>> BR,
>> Jammy
>>
>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]"  wrote in message 
>> news:OiHMJG0gIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> The bandwidth requirements for replication are no different than CCR 
>>> nodes on the same subnet/in the same datacenter - it depends on the 
>>> volume of email.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Bharat Suneja
>>> MVP - Exchange
>>> www.zenprise.com
>>> NEW blog location:
>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>> ----------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jammy-MVP" <Jammylo@ms4.hinet.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message 
>>> news:137834EB-C301-4E84-BA7E-D305C83DFE47@microsoft.com...
>>>> I'm reading the 
>>>> article(http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/03/05/448338.aspx) by 
>>>> Scott Schnoll.
>>>> I'm curious about windows 2008 multi-subnet failover cluster bandwidth 
>>>> requirement.
>>>> If deploy CCR with Windows 2008 multi-subnet cluster, how many 
>>>> bandwidth is requirement between 2 CCR Node?
>>>>
>>>> BR,
>>>>
>>>> Jammy
>>>
>>
>
date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:03:03 +0800   author:   Jammy-MVP AM

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