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date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 19:26:01 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.clustering        back       


Can clustering prevent database corruption   
Can exchange clustering prevent against full database corruption? I'm really 
curious about this because if the exchange database is on a SAN, in the case 
of corruption, clustering will not work at all because the exchange server 
will failover to an existing corrupted exchange database. Please let me know.

Donny
date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 19:26:01 -0700   author:   donny

Re: Can clustering prevent database corruption   
No.  Frequent backups and replication to secondary storage protect against 
database corruption.  In the event of corruption you would restore and reply 
the logs.


"donny"  wrote in message 
news:E9DE3964-A18A-4E1C-8F8F-76D9BA1954F7@microsoft.com...
> Can exchange clustering prevent against full database corruption? I'm 
> really
> curious about this because if the exchange database is on a SAN, in the 
> case
> of corruption, clustering will not work at all because the exchange server
> will failover to an existing corrupted exchange database. Please let me 
> know.
>
> Donny
date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:25:33 -0700   author:   John Fullbright [MVP] fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom

Re: Can clustering prevent database corruption   
What kind of replication can do this? Do you know of any high end product 
which is very capable ot doing this? Please recommend some to me.

"John Fullbright [MVP]" wrote:

> No.  Frequent backups and replication to secondary storage protect against 
> database corruption.  In the event of corruption you would restore and reply 
> the logs.
> 
> 
> "donny"  wrote in message 
> news:E9DE3964-A18A-4E1C-8F8F-76D9BA1954F7@microsoft.com...
> > Can exchange clustering prevent against full database corruption? I'm 
> > really
> > curious about this because if the exchange database is on a SAN, in the 
> > case
> > of corruption, clustering will not work at all because the exchange server
> > will failover to an existing corrupted exchange database. Please let me 
> > know.
> >
> > Donny 
> 
> 
>
date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:50:02 -0700   author:   donny

Re: Can clustering prevent database corruption   
hi donny!

you can do it with products from neverfail, for example. you find them under 
www.neverfailgroup.com

-- 
Gerald Aigenbauer
http://www.ntc.at


"donny"  schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:6C67008E-0945-4D7A-A007-C165EDB48713@microsoft.com...
> What kind of replication can do this? Do you know of any high end product
> which is very capable ot doing this? Please recommend some to me.
>
> "John Fullbright [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> No.  Frequent backups and replication to secondary storage protect 
>> against
>> database corruption.  In the event of corruption you would restore and 
>> reply
>> the logs.
>>
>>
>> "donny"  wrote in message
>> news:E9DE3964-A18A-4E1C-8F8F-76D9BA1954F7@microsoft.com...
>> > Can exchange clustering prevent against full database corruption? I'm
>> > really
>> > curious about this because if the exchange database is on a SAN, in the
>> > case
>> > of corruption, clustering will not work at all because the exchange 
>> > server
>> > will failover to an existing corrupted exchange database. Please let me
>> > know.
>> >
>> > Donny
>>
>>
>>
date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 10:52:25 +0200   author:   Gerald Aigenbauer

Re: Can clustering prevent database corruption   
Only you can prevent forest fires, er, I mean database corruption. Backup 
and replication are the key here.

Clustering makes the corrupted database Highly Available.

Cheers,

Rodney R. Fournier

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner


"donny"  wrote in message 
news:E9DE3964-A18A-4E1C-8F8F-76D9BA1954F7@microsoft.com...
> Can exchange clustering prevent against full database corruption? I'm 
> really
> curious about this because if the exchange database is on a SAN, in the 
> case
> of corruption, clustering will not work at all because the exchange server
> will failover to an existing corrupted exchange database. Please let me 
> know.
>
> Donny
date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 06:41:27 -0500   author:   Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]

Re: Can clustering prevent database corruption   
Your storage vendor would be you best bet if you want to do it on the 
backend storage.  For NetApp, that means Snapmirror - either synchronous or 
"asynchronous" replication.  EMC and HP have replication products, but you 
would need to consult with them for specifics.

There are host based replication products as well, I believe Neverfail was 
already mentioned and then there's the NSI stuff and many others as well.

Whatever you choose, make sure it's supportable under  KB.895847 for 
replication of live data.  If you are replicating snapshots as Snapmirror 
"asynchronous" replication does (not live data), then kb.822896 - specificly 
the requirements for checking snapshot consistency before mounting the 
databases.




"donny"  wrote in message 
news:6C67008E-0945-4D7A-A007-C165EDB48713@microsoft.com...
> What kind of replication can do this? Do you know of any high end product
> which is very capable ot doing this? Please recommend some to me.
>
> "John Fullbright [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> No.  Frequent backups and replication to secondary storage protect 
>> against
>> database corruption.  In the event of corruption you would restore and 
>> reply
>> the logs.
>>
>>
>> "donny"  wrote in message
>> news:E9DE3964-A18A-4E1C-8F8F-76D9BA1954F7@microsoft.com...
>> > Can exchange clustering prevent against full database corruption? I'm
>> > really
>> > curious about this because if the exchange database is on a SAN, in the
>> > case
>> > of corruption, clustering will not work at all because the exchange 
>> > server
>> > will failover to an existing corrupted exchange database. Please let me
>> > know.
>> >
>> > Donny
>>
>>
>>
date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 07:31:52 -0700   author:   John Fullbright [MVP] fjohn@donotspamnetappdotcom

Re: Can clustering prevent database corruption   
"Gerald Aigenbauer"  wrote in message 
news:OSPPeltiGHA.4204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> hi donny!
>
> you can do it with products from neverfail, for example. you find them 
> under www.neverfailgroup.com

However, it will also replicate the corruption.

-- 
Russ Kaufmann
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp
date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 12:35:59 -0600   author:   Russ Kaufmann [MVP]

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