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date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:18:00 -0800,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.clients        back       


Emptying the SPAM-folder   
Hi!
I have a question regarding the SPAM folder in Outlook 2007. I have an 
organisation where there are 4 users connected to an SBS2003 with Exchange 
2003 SP2. I have activated the Intelligent Message Filter but there still are 
some SPAM slipping through the filter. As one user needs to be able to access 
all his emails in the entire email folder structure, an automatich archiving 
routine that is located in one machine, is not an alternative. I know that 
the archivin routine for the SPAM-folder could be set up to remove all 
messages that are older than one day, but as I want to disable automatic 
archiving, is there another way to have the SPAM-folder to empty itself 
automatically?
date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:18:00 -0800   author:   Richard Johansson, Parnasso

Re: Emptying the SPAM-folder   
Richard Johansson, Parnasso
 wrote:
> Hi!
> I have a question regarding the SPAM folder in Outlook 2007. I have an
> organisation where there are 4 users connected to an SBS2003 with
> Exchange 2003 SP2. I have activated the Intelligent Message Filter
> but there still are some SPAM slipping through the filter. As one
> user needs to be able to access all his emails in the entire email
> folder structure, an automatich archiving routine that is located in
> one machine, is not an alternative. I know that the archivin routine
> for the SPAM-folder could be set up to remove all messages that are
> older than one day, but as I want to disable automatic archiving, is
> there another way to have the SPAM-folder to empty itself
> automatically?

You could set up a mailbox management policy (do this in ESM / recipient 
policies) to empty that folder of items older than X days if you like.
date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:05:44 -0500   author:   Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Re: Emptying the SPAM-folder   
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> Richard Johansson, Parnasso
>  wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I have a question regarding the SPAM folder in Outlook 2007. I have an
> > organisation where there are 4 users connected to an SBS2003 with
> > Exchange 2003 SP2. I have activated the Intelligent Message Filter
> > but there still are some SPAM slipping through the filter. As one
> > user needs to be able to access all his emails in the entire email
> > folder structure, an automatich archiving routine that is located in
> > one machine, is not an alternative. I know that the archivin routine
> > for the SPAM-folder could be set up to remove all messages that are
> > older than one day, but as I want to disable automatic archiving, is
> > there another way to have the SPAM-folder to empty itself
> > automatically?
> 
> You could set up a mailbox management policy (do this in ESM / recipient 
> policies) to empty that folder of items older than X days if you like. 
> 
> 
> 
Hi!
How do I do this the easiest way? Is there perhaps any way of setting up 
archiving alternatives in a mailbox management policy as well? My client is 
interested in having all his mails available but do not use them all at once. 
Is there any manual for mailbox management policies available online?
date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:21:01 -0800   author:   Richard Johansson, Parnasso

Re: Emptying the SPAM-folder   
Richard Johansson, Parnasso
 wrote:
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
>> Richard Johansson, Parnasso
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I have a question regarding the SPAM folder in Outlook 2007. I have
>>> an organisation where there are 4 users connected to an SBS2003 with
>>> Exchange 2003 SP2. I have activated the Intelligent Message Filter
>>> but there still are some SPAM slipping through the filter. As one
>>> user needs to be able to access all his emails in the entire email
>>> folder structure, an automatich archiving routine that is located in
>>> one machine, is not an alternative. I know that the archivin routine
>>> for the SPAM-folder could be set up to remove all messages that are
>>> older than one day, but as I want to disable automatic archiving, is
>>> there another way to have the SPAM-folder to empty itself
>>> automatically?
>>
>> You could set up a mailbox management policy (do this in ESM /
>> recipient policies) to empty that folder of items older than X days
>> if you like.
>>
>>
>>
> Hi!
> How do I do this the easiest way?

By setting up a single policy that applies to all users......
>
 Is there perhaps any way of setting
> up archiving alternatives in a mailbox management policy as well?

No, not via policy. It's spam. Users are supposed to review it and empty the 
junk - after whitelisting the stuff that's good.
If you want to archive it, or have another option, don't use the IMF for 
this - look at Postini or MailFoundry or similar services, which will 
scan/scrub the mail before it gets to your server, and users can manage 
their own quarantines on the web.

> My
> client is interested in having all his mails available but do not use
> them all at once.

I don't really understand what that means....

>: Is there any manual for mailbox management policies
> available online?

See http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2005/03/21/399807.aspx
date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:40:04 -0500   author:   Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Re: Emptying the SPAM-folder   
Hi!
So, I went into setting up a policy that would affect my user account only 
within the test phase and I wanted this specific policy to affect my SPAM 
folder. As I am using a Swedish version of the Outlook 2007, then the SPAM 
folder is named "Skräppost" in Outlook. When I look into the creation of the 
policy then there seems to be no means by which I can find the folder 
"Skräppost" nor any folder named "Spam" in the predefined list of folders to 
which a policy could apply.

I wonder if you have got an answer to whether there are any standard names 
to use such that the Exchange server will recognize that it is the Spam 
folder that is to be emptied or are there no "clues" to how to manage this.

Okay, so what do I do when I have configured the policy? How do I make it 
work permanently? Is there some activation of the policy that I need to do in 
order for it to become active?

Thanks for your information!

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> Richard Johansson, Parnasso
>  wrote:
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> >
> >> Richard Johansson, Parnasso
> >>  wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>> I have a question regarding the SPAM folder in Outlook 2007. I have
> >>> an organisation where there are 4 users connected to an SBS2003 with
> >>> Exchange 2003 SP2. I have activated the Intelligent Message Filter
> >>> but there still are some SPAM slipping through the filter. As one
> >>> user needs to be able to access all his emails in the entire email
> >>> folder structure, an automatich archiving routine that is located in
> >>> one machine, is not an alternative. I know that the archivin routine
> >>> for the SPAM-folder could be set up to remove all messages that are
> >>> older than one day, but as I want to disable automatic archiving, is
> >>> there another way to have the SPAM-folder to empty itself
> >>> automatically?
> >>
> >> You could set up a mailbox management policy (do this in ESM /
> >> recipient policies) to empty that folder of items older than X days
> >> if you like.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Hi!
> > How do I do this the easiest way?
> 
> By setting up a single policy that applies to all users......
> >
>  Is there perhaps any way of setting
> > up archiving alternatives in a mailbox management policy as well?
> 
> No, not via policy. It's spam. Users are supposed to review it and empty the 
> junk - after whitelisting the stuff that's good.
> If you want to archive it, or have another option, don't use the IMF for 
> this - look at Postini or MailFoundry or similar services, which will 
> scan/scrub the mail before it gets to your server, and users can manage 
> their own quarantines on the web.
> 
> > My
> > client is interested in having all his mails available but do not use
> > them all at once.
> 
> I don't really understand what that means....
> 
> >: Is there any manual for mailbox management policies
> > available online?
> 
> See http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2005/03/21/399807.aspx
> 
> 
>
date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:36:00 -0800   author:   Richard Johansson, Parnasso

Re: Emptying the SPAM-folder   
Richard Johansson, Parnasso
 wrote:
> Hi!
> So, I went into setting up a policy that would affect my user account
> only within the test phase and I wanted this specific policy to
> affect my SPAM folder. As I am using a Swedish version of the Outlook
> 2007, then the SPAM folder is named "Skräppost" in Outlook. When I
> look into the creation of the policy then there seems to be no means
> by which I can find the folder "Skräppost" nor any folder named
> "Spam" in the predefined list of folders to which a policy could
> apply.

Add the folder manually - you can do this pretty easily.
>
> I wonder if you have got an answer to whether there are any standard
> names to use such that the Exchange server will recognize that it is
> the Spam folder that is to be emptied or are there no "clues" to how
> to manage this.
>
> Okay, so what do I do when I have configured the policy? How do I
> make it work permanently? Is there some activation of the policy that
> I need to do in order for it to become active?

Please check out what the policy can do - it's really quite straightforward. 
Have it set up to report only at first - then in ESM, find the private 
store, right-click, mailbox management ....send results to you via email. 
I'm telling you this from memory....but it should be close.
>
> Thanks for your information!
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
>> Richard Johansson, Parnasso
>>  wrote:
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Richard Johansson, Parnasso
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> I have a question regarding the SPAM folder in Outlook 2007. I
>>>>> have an organisation where there are 4 users connected to an
>>>>> SBS2003 with Exchange 2003 SP2. I have activated the Intelligent
>>>>> Message Filter but there still are some SPAM slipping through the
>>>>> filter. As one user needs to be able to access all his emails in
>>>>> the entire email folder structure, an automatich archiving
>>>>> routine that is located in one machine, is not an alternative. I
>>>>> know that the archivin routine for the SPAM-folder could be set
>>>>> up to remove all messages that are older than one day, but as I
>>>>> want to disable automatic archiving, is there another way to have
>>>>> the SPAM-folder to empty itself automatically?
>>>>
>>>> You could set up a mailbox management policy (do this in ESM /
>>>> recipient policies) to empty that folder of items older than X days
>>>> if you like.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> How do I do this the easiest way?
>>
>> By setting up a single policy that applies to all users......
>>>
>>  Is there perhaps any way of setting
>>> up archiving alternatives in a mailbox management policy as well?
>>
>> No, not via policy. It's spam. Users are supposed to review it and
>> empty the junk - after whitelisting the stuff that's good.
>> If you want to archive it, or have another option, don't use the IMF
>> for this - look at Postini or MailFoundry or similar services, which
>> will scan/scrub the mail before it gets to your server, and users
>> can manage their own quarantines on the web.
>>
>>> My
>>> client is interested in having all his mails available but do not
>>> use them all at once.
>>
>> I don't really understand what that means....
>>
>>>> Is there any manual for mailbox management policies
>>> available online?
>>
>> See http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2005/03/21/399807.aspx
date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:07:26 -0500   author:   Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

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