Hello all

I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are running exchange 
full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The backup job 
runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard deleted  this 
twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran on Sunday, 
so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i will not 
see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the transaction log 
files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans files to the 
transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC “G:\Program 
Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the restore operation has 
completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?

Thanks

I forgot to ask

If i am able to copy the transaction log files to the temp directory in 
order to bring the RSG up to date, are those log files still valid so in the 
event i need to do a DB restore i can use these log files for replay into a 
production DB?

thanks

"skip" wrote:

> Hello all
> 
> I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are running exchange 
> full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The backup job 
> runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard deleted  this 
> twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran on Sunday, 
> so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i will not 
> see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the transaction log 
> files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans files to the 
> transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC “G:\Program 
> Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the restore operation has 
> completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
> 
> Thanks
>

see this:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx

-- 
Susan Conkey [MVP]



"skip"  wrote in message 
news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
> Hello all
>
> I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are running 
> exchange
> full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The backup 
> job
> runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard deleted 
> this
> twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran on 
> Sunday,
> so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i will not
> see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the transaction 
> log
> files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans files to 
> the
> transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC 
> “G:\Program
> Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the restore operation has
> completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
>
> Thanks
>

This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the transaction log 
files that had been created since the last full backup and the restore.env 
file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage 
group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to not 
commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the RSG 
completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage 
group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database and was 
able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after the last 
full backup was done (last sunday)

Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction with this?

thanks

"Susan" wrote:

> see this:
> 
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
> 
> -- 
> Susan Conkey [MVP]
> 
> 
> 
> "skip"  wrote in message 
> news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
> > Hello all
> >
> > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are running 
> > exchange
> > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The backup 
> > job
> > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard deleted 
> > this
> > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran on 
> > Sunday,
> > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i will not
> > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the transaction 
> > log
> > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans files to 
> > the
> > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC 
> > “G:\Program
> > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the restore operation has
> > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
> >
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
> 
>

One thing i noticed, i ran a full online backup. and the transaction log 
files that i copied to the RSG didnt get purged when the full backup ran, so 
i am assuming that these log files were commited to the RSG database 
therefore they wont get purged after an online backup runs? if this is 
correct do i still need these log files? again my full online backup 
completed succesfully

Thanks

"skip" wrote:

> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the transaction log 
> files that had been created since the last full backup and the restore.env 
> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage 
> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to not 
> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the RSG 
> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage 
> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database and was 
> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after the last 
> full backup was done (last sunday)
> 
> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction with this?
> 
> thanks
> 
> "Susan" wrote:
> 
> > see this:
> > 
> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
> > 
> > -- 
> > Susan Conkey [MVP]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "skip"  wrote in message 
> > news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
> > > Hello all
> > >
> > > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are running 
> > > exchange
> > > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The backup 
> > > job
> > > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard deleted 
> > > this
> > > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran on 
> > > Sunday,
> > > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i will not
> > > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the transaction 
> > > log
> > > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans files to 
> > > the
> > > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC 
> > > “G:\Program
> > > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the restore operation has
> > > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> >

you ran a full backup on what?  if you mean your production db, then no, the 
log files you copied to your RSG wouldn't have been affected by that...

-- 
Susan Conkey [MVP]



"skip"  wrote in message 
news:243299CF-803B-456C-8A9F-E95E0663DCF5@microsoft.com...
> One thing i noticed, i ran a full online backup. and the transaction log
> files that i copied to the RSG didnt get purged when the full backup ran, 
> so
> i am assuming that these log files were commited to the RSG database
> therefore they wont get purged after an online backup runs? if this is
> correct do i still need these log files? again my full online backup
> completed succesfully
>
> Thanks
>
> "skip" wrote:
>
>> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the transaction log
>> files that had been created since the last full backup and the 
>> restore.env
>> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage
>> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to not
>> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the RSG
>> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery 
>> storage
>> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database and was
>> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after the last
>> full backup was done (last sunday)
>>
>> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction with 
>> this?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> "Susan" wrote:
>>
>> > see this:
>> >
>> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Susan Conkey [MVP]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "skip"  wrote in message
>> > news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
>> > > Hello all
>> > >
>> > > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are running
>> > > exchange
>> > > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The 
>> > > backup
>> > > job
>> > > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard 
>> > > deleted
>> > > this
>> > > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran on
>> > > Sunday,
>> > > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i 
>> > > will not
>> > > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the 
>> > > transaction
>> > > log
>> > > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans files 
>> > > to
>> > > the
>> > > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC
>> > > “G:\Program
>> > > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the restore 
>> > > operation has
>> > > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >

if you hadn't done it the right way, you'd not have been able to recover the 
emails in question...the only thing you have to watch for is not letting the 
transaction log that contained the deletion get replayed to the DB...

-- 
Susan Conkey [MVP]



"skip"  wrote in message 
news:6A09DDAF-3B31-4F39-942D-A0599580B479@microsoft.com...
> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the transaction log
> files that had been created since the last full backup and the restore.env
> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage
> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to not
> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the RSG
> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery 
> storage
> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database and was
> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after the last
> full backup was done (last sunday)
>
> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction with 
> this?
>
> thanks
>
> "Susan" wrote:
>
>> see this:
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
>>
>> -- 
>> Susan Conkey [MVP]
>>
>>
>>
>> "skip"  wrote in message
>> news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello all
>> >
>> > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are running
>> > exchange
>> > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The 
>> > backup
>> > job
>> > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard deleted
>> > this
>> > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran on
>> > Sunday,
>> > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i will 
>> > not
>> > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the 
>> > transaction
>> > log
>> > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans files 
>> > to
>> > the
>> > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC
>> > “G:\Program
>> > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the restore operation 
>> > has
>> > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>>
>>
>>

after i did the restore, and was able to get the emails i needed, i ran a 
full online backup on the production DB, after the backup completed, i 
noticed that all the log files i copied to the RSG (to roll the RSG forward) 
did not get purged by the online backup, i am wondering why this happened?

"Susan" wrote:

> you ran a full backup on what?  if you mean your production db, then no, the 
> log files you copied to your RSG wouldn't have been affected by that...
> 
> -- 
> Susan Conkey [MVP]
> 
> 
> 
> "skip"  wrote in message 
> news:243299CF-803B-456C-8A9F-E95E0663DCF5@microsoft.com...
> > One thing i noticed, i ran a full online backup. and the transaction log
> > files that i copied to the RSG didnt get purged when the full backup ran, 
> > so
> > i am assuming that these log files were commited to the RSG database
> > therefore they wont get purged after an online backup runs? if this is
> > correct do i still need these log files? again my full online backup
> > completed succesfully
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > "skip" wrote:
> >
> >> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the transaction log
> >> files that had been created since the last full backup and the 
> >> restore.env
> >> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage
> >> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to not
> >> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the RSG
> >> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery 
> >> storage
> >> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database and was
> >> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after the last
> >> full backup was done (last sunday)
> >>
> >> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction with 
> >> this?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> "Susan" wrote:
> >>
> >> > see this:
> >> >
> >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
> >> >
> >> > -- 
> >> > Susan Conkey [MVP]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "skip"  wrote in message
> >> > news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
> >> > > Hello all
> >> > >
> >> > > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are running
> >> > > exchange
> >> > > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The 
> >> > > backup
> >> > > job
> >> > > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard 
> >> > > deleted
> >> > > this
> >> > > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran on
> >> > > Sunday,
> >> > > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i 
> >> > > will not
> >> > > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the 
> >> > > transaction
> >> > > log
> >> > > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans files 
> >> > > to
> >> > > the
> >> > > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC
> >> > > “G:\Program
> >> > > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the restore 
> >> > > operation has
> >> > > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> 
> 
>

you backed up only the store?  not the entire storage group?  Transaction 
log files are not purged until/unless you back up the entire storage 
group...

-- 
Susan Conkey [MVP]



"skip"  wrote in message 
news:4B4D3784-3037-4B2C-9973-AD38A5AB159A@microsoft.com...
> after i did the restore, and was able to get the emails i needed, i ran a
> full online backup on the production DB, after the backup completed, i
> noticed that all the log files i copied to the RSG (to roll the RSG 
> forward)
> did not get purged by the online backup, i am wondering why this happened?
>
> "Susan" wrote:
>
>> you ran a full backup on what?  if you mean your production db, then no, 
>> the
>> log files you copied to your RSG wouldn't have been affected by that...
>>
>> -- 
>> Susan Conkey [MVP]
>>
>>
>>
>> "skip"  wrote in message
>> news:243299CF-803B-456C-8A9F-E95E0663DCF5@microsoft.com...
>> > One thing i noticed, i ran a full online backup. and the transaction 
>> > log
>> > files that i copied to the RSG didnt get purged when the full backup 
>> > ran,
>> > so
>> > i am assuming that these log files were commited to the RSG database
>> > therefore they wont get purged after an online backup runs? if this is
>> > correct do i still need these log files? again my full online backup
>> > completed succesfully
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > "skip" wrote:
>> >
>> >> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the transaction 
>> >> log
>> >> files that had been created since the last full backup and the
>> >> restore.env
>> >> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage
>> >> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to not
>> >> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the RSG
>> >> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery
>> >> storage
>> >> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database and 
>> >> was
>> >> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after the 
>> >> last
>> >> full backup was done (last sunday)
>> >>
>> >> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction with
>> >> this?
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> "Susan" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > see this:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
>> >> >
>> >> > -- 
>> >> > Susan Conkey [MVP]
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "skip"  wrote in message
>> >> > news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > Hello all
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are 
>> >> > > running
>> >> > > exchange
>> >> > > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The
>> >> > > backup
>> >> > > job
>> >> > > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard
>> >> > > deleted
>> >> > > this
>> >> > > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran 
>> >> > > on
>> >> > > Sunday,
>> >> > > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i
>> >> > > will not
>> >> > > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the
>> >> > > transaction
>> >> > > log
>> >> > > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans 
>> >> > > files
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC
>> >> > > “G:\Program
>> >> > > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the 
>> >> > > restore
>> >> > > operation has
>> >> > > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>>

yes i did backup the entire storage group, but what i am thinking is those 
log files that i copied to the RSG log path and then replayed into the RSG 
database using esuutil didnt get purged by the online backup because they had 
been replayed into the RSG database? if this is correct then i dont think i 
need these log files anymore, because a full online backup was taken of the 
prodcution DB right after the restore was done to the RSG.

thanks for your help

"Susan" wrote:

> you backed up only the store?  not the entire storage group?  Transaction 
> log files are not purged until/unless you back up the entire storage 
> group...
> 
> -- 
> Susan Conkey [MVP]
> 
> 
> 
> "skip"  wrote in message 
> news:4B4D3784-3037-4B2C-9973-AD38A5AB159A@microsoft.com...
> > after i did the restore, and was able to get the emails i needed, i ran a
> > full online backup on the production DB, after the backup completed, i
> > noticed that all the log files i copied to the RSG (to roll the RSG 
> > forward)
> > did not get purged by the online backup, i am wondering why this happened?
> >
> > "Susan" wrote:
> >
> >> you ran a full backup on what?  if you mean your production db, then no, 
> >> the
> >> log files you copied to your RSG wouldn't have been affected by that...
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Susan Conkey [MVP]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "skip"  wrote in message
> >> news:243299CF-803B-456C-8A9F-E95E0663DCF5@microsoft.com...
> >> > One thing i noticed, i ran a full online backup. and the transaction 
> >> > log
> >> > files that i copied to the RSG didnt get purged when the full backup 
> >> > ran,
> >> > so
> >> > i am assuming that these log files were commited to the RSG database
> >> > therefore they wont get purged after an online backup runs? if this is
> >> > correct do i still need these log files? again my full online backup
> >> > completed succesfully
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > "skip" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the transaction 
> >> >> log
> >> >> files that had been created since the last full backup and the
> >> >> restore.env
> >> >> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage
> >> >> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to not
> >> >> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the RSG
> >> >> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery
> >> >> storage
> >> >> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database and 
> >> >> was
> >> >> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after the 
> >> >> last
> >> >> full backup was done (last sunday)
> >> >>
> >> >> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction with
> >> >> this?
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> "Susan" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > see this:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> > Susan Conkey [MVP]
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "skip"  wrote in message
> >> >> > news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > Hello all
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are 
> >> >> > > running
> >> >> > > exchange
> >> >> > > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The
> >> >> > > backup
> >> >> > > job
> >> >> > > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard
> >> >> > > deleted
> >> >> > > this
> >> >> > > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran 
> >> >> > > on
> >> >> > > Sunday,
> >> >> > > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i
> >> >> > > will not
> >> >> > > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the
> >> >> > > transaction
> >> >> > > log
> >> >> > > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans 
> >> >> > > files
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC
> >> >> > > “G:\Program
> >> >> > > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the 
> >> >> > > restore
> >> >> > > operation has
> >> >> > > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> 
> 
>

I miss spoke i did not backup the entire storage group only the DB, this is 
why the log files didnt get purged. Any question i have for you. If i run 
eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage group\mailbox store" 
how does eseutil know what database it needs to replay the transaction logs 
into? I am assuming it replays in the RSG database because it is dismounted 
and it is set to be over written by a restore, and the database has the same 
name as the prodcution DB?

Is this correct?

Many thanks again

"Susan" wrote:

> you backed up only the store?  not the entire storage group?  Transaction 
> log files are not purged until/unless you back up the entire storage 
> group...
> 
> -- 
> Susan Conkey [MVP]
> 
> 
> 
> "skip"  wrote in message 
> news:4B4D3784-3037-4B2C-9973-AD38A5AB159A@microsoft.com...
> > after i did the restore, and was able to get the emails i needed, i ran a
> > full online backup on the production DB, after the backup completed, i
> > noticed that all the log files i copied to the RSG (to roll the RSG 
> > forward)
> > did not get purged by the online backup, i am wondering why this happened?
> >
> > "Susan" wrote:
> >
> >> you ran a full backup on what?  if you mean your production db, then no, 
> >> the
> >> log files you copied to your RSG wouldn't have been affected by that...
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Susan Conkey [MVP]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "skip"  wrote in message
> >> news:243299CF-803B-456C-8A9F-E95E0663DCF5@microsoft.com...
> >> > One thing i noticed, i ran a full online backup. and the transaction 
> >> > log
> >> > files that i copied to the RSG didnt get purged when the full backup 
> >> > ran,
> >> > so
> >> > i am assuming that these log files were commited to the RSG database
> >> > therefore they wont get purged after an online backup runs? if this is
> >> > correct do i still need these log files? again my full online backup
> >> > completed succesfully
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > "skip" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the transaction 
> >> >> log
> >> >> files that had been created since the last full backup and the
> >> >> restore.env
> >> >> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage
> >> >> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to not
> >> >> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the RSG
> >> >> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery
> >> >> storage
> >> >> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database and 
> >> >> was
> >> >> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after the 
> >> >> last
> >> >> full backup was done (last sunday)
> >> >>
> >> >> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction with
> >> >> this?
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> "Susan" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > see this:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> > Susan Conkey [MVP]
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "skip"  wrote in message
> >> >> > news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > Hello all
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are 
> >> >> > > running
> >> >> > > exchange
> >> >> > > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The
> >> >> > > backup
> >> >> > > job
> >> >> > > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard
> >> >> > > deleted
> >> >> > > this
> >> >> > > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran 
> >> >> > > on
> >> >> > > Sunday,
> >> >> > > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i
> >> >> > > will not
> >> >> > > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the
> >> >> > > transaction
> >> >> > > log
> >> >> > > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans 
> >> >> > > files
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC
> >> >> > > “G:\Program
> >> >> > > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” once the 
> >> >> > > restore
> >> >> > > operation has
> >> >> > > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> 
> 
>

that doesn't really make sense...are you sure none of them were purged? 
replaying them into a store in the RSG should not have any bearing, 
whatsoever, on the transaction log files for the production store...

-- 
Susan Conkey [MVP]



"skip"  wrote in message 
news:B4AB937D-0A0B-458F-91BE-A3A5BCB3C84F@microsoft.com...
> yes i did backup the entire storage group, but what i am thinking is those
> log files that i copied to the RSG log path and then replayed into the RSG
> database using esuutil didnt get purged by the online backup because they 
> had
> been replayed into the RSG database? if this is correct then i dont think 
> i
> need these log files anymore, because a full online backup was taken of 
> the
> prodcution DB right after the restore was done to the RSG.
>
> thanks for your help
>
> "Susan" wrote:
>
>> you backed up only the store?  not the entire storage group?  Transaction
>> log files are not purged until/unless you back up the entire storage
>> group...
>>
>> -- 
>> Susan Conkey [MVP]
>>
>>
>>
>> "skip"  wrote in message
>> news:4B4D3784-3037-4B2C-9973-AD38A5AB159A@microsoft.com...
>> > after i did the restore, and was able to get the emails i needed, i ran 
>> > a
>> > full online backup on the production DB, after the backup completed, i
>> > noticed that all the log files i copied to the RSG (to roll the RSG
>> > forward)
>> > did not get purged by the online backup, i am wondering why this 
>> > happened?
>> >
>> > "Susan" wrote:
>> >
>> >> you ran a full backup on what?  if you mean your production db, then 
>> >> no,
>> >> the
>> >> log files you copied to your RSG wouldn't have been affected by 
>> >> that...
>> >>
>> >> -- 
>> >> Susan Conkey [MVP]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "skip"  wrote in message
>> >> news:243299CF-803B-456C-8A9F-E95E0663DCF5@microsoft.com...
>> >> > One thing i noticed, i ran a full online backup. and the transaction
>> >> > log
>> >> > files that i copied to the RSG didnt get purged when the full backup
>> >> > ran,
>> >> > so
>> >> > i am assuming that these log files were commited to the RSG database
>> >> > therefore they wont get purged after an online backup runs? if this 
>> >> > is
>> >> > correct do i still need these log files? again my full online backup
>> >> > completed succesfully
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > "skip" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the 
>> >> >> transaction
>> >> >> log
>> >> >> files that had been created since the last full backup and the
>> >> >> restore.env
>> >> >> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage
>> >> >> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to 
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the 
>> >> >> RSG
>> >> >> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program 
>> >> >> files\exchsrvr\recovery
>> >> >> storage
>> >> >> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database 
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after 
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> last
>> >> >> full backup was done (last sunday)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction 
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> this?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Susan" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > see this:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -- 
>> >> >> > Susan Conkey [MVP]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "skip"  wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > > Hello all
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are
>> >> >> > > running
>> >> >> > > exchange
>> >> >> > > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. 
>> >> >> > > The
>> >> >> > > backup
>> >> >> > > job
>> >> >> > > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard
>> >> >> > > deleted
>> >> >> > > this
>> >> >> > > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that 
>> >> >> > > ran
>> >> >> > > on
>> >> >> > > Sunday,
>> >> >> > > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming 
>> >> >> > > i
>> >> >> > > will not
>> >> >> > > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the
>> >> >> > > transaction
>> >> >> > > log
>> >> >> > > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans
>> >> >> > > files
>> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC
>> >> >> > > “G:\Program
>> >> >> > > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group” 
>> >> >> > > once the
>> >> >> > > restore
>> >> >> > > operation has
>> >> >> > > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thanks
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

On Jul 3, 9:03 pm, "Susan"  wrote:
> that doesn't really make sense...are you sure none of them were purged?
> replaying them into a store in the RSG should not have any bearing,
> whatsoever, on the transaction log files for the production store...
>
> --
> Susan Conkey [MVP]
>
> "skip"  wrote in message
>
> news:B4AB937D-0A0B-458F-91BE-A3A5BCB3C84F@microsoft.com...
>
>
>
> > yes i did backup the entire storage group, but what i am thinking is those
> > log files that i copied to the RSG log path and then replayed into the RSG
> > database using esuutil didnt get purged by the online backup because they
> > had
> > been replayed into the RSG database? if this is correct then i dont think
> > i
> > need these log files anymore, because a full online backup was taken of
> > the
> > prodcution DB right after the restore was done to the RSG.
>
> > thanks for your help
>
> > "Susan" wrote:
>
> >> you backed up only the store?  not the entire storage group?  Transaction
> >> log files are not purged until/unless you back up the entire storage
> >> group...
>
> >> --
> >> Susan Conkey [MVP]
>
> >> "skip"  wrote in message
> >>news:4B4D3784-3037-4B2C-9973-AD38A5AB159A@microsoft.com...
> >> > after i did the restore, and was able to get the emails i needed, i ran
> >> > a
> >> > full online backup on the production DB, after the backup completed, i
> >> > noticed that all the log files i copied to the RSG (to roll the RSG
> >> > forward)
> >> > did not get purged by the online backup, i am wondering why this
> >> > happened?
>
> >> > "Susan" wrote:
>
> >> >> you ran a full backup on what?  if you mean your production db, then
> >> >> no,
> >> >> the
> >> >> log files you copied to your RSG wouldn't have been affected by
> >> >> that...
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Susan Conkey [MVP]
>
> >> >> "skip"  wrote in message
> >> >>news:243299CF-803B-456C-8A9F-E95E0663DCF5@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > One thing i noticed, i ran a full online backup. and the transaction
> >> >> > log
> >> >> > files that i copied to the RSG didnt get purged when the full backup
> >> >> > ran,
> >> >> > so
> >> >> > i am assuming that these log files were commited to the RSG database
> >> >> > therefore they wont get purged after an online backup runs? if this
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > correct do i still need these log files? again my full online backup
> >> >> > completed succesfully
>
> >> >> > Thanks
>
> >> >> > "skip" wrote:
>
> >> >> >> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the
> >> >> >> transaction
> >> >> >> log
> >> >> >> files that had been created since the last full backup and the
> >> >> >> restore.env
> >> >> >> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage
> >> >> >> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the
> >> >> >> RSG
> >> >> >> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program
> >> >> >> files\exchsrvr\recovery
> >> >> >> storage
> >> >> >> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> was
> >> >> >> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> last
> >> >> >> full backup was done (last sunday)
>
> >> >> >> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction
> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> this?
>
> >> >> >> thanks
>
> >> >> >> "Susan" wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > see this:
>
> >> >> >> >http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
>
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Susan Conkey [MVP]
>
> >> >> >> > "skip"  wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > > Hello all
>
> >> >> >> > > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are
> >> >> >> > > running
> >> >> >> > > exchange
> >> >> >> > > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring.
> >> >> >> > > The
> >> >> >> > > backup
> >> >> >> > > job
> >> >> >> > > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard
> >> >> >> > > deleted
> >> >> >> > > this
> >> >> >> > > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that
> >> >> >> > > ran
> >> >> >> > > on
> >> >> >> > > Sunday,
> >> >> >> > > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming
> >> >> >> > > i
> >> >> >> > > will not
> >> >> >> > > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the
> >> >> >> > > transaction
> >> >> >> > > log
> >> >> >> > > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans
> >> >> >> > > files
> >> >> >> > > to
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC
> >> >> >> > > “G:\Program
> >> >> >> > > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Group† 
> >> >> >> > > once the
> >> >> >> > > restore
> >> >> >> > > operation has
> >> >> >> > > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
>
> >> >> >> > > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If i run eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage group
\mailbox store"
how does eseutil know what database it needs to replay the transaction
logs
into?

First and foremost the command is wrong. Secondly, how the restore
funda works is - you chose to restore a store or on wider scale
storage group - hence, when you have the restore done - it would
create a temp folder (say for eq. C:\Temp\Storage Group Name). Now
this folder would contain restore.env file along with log files that
were backed up. Once you find this in sequence all you require is to
perform the Hard Recovery (Eseutil /cc) keeping in mind that log files
are all in good condition & sequence.

If you have created a RSG - then the restore will first check the RSG
& if the DB location is not mentioned (i.e if you have not added the
concerned store to RSG) it would then look onto the production store.

Wow, that was a long one...hope i cleared the doubt of restore. Do
tell me if you have doubts.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:54:02 -0700, skip
 wrote:

>yes i did backup the entire storage group, but what i am thinking is those 
>log files that i copied to the RSG log path and then replayed into the RSG 
>database using esuutil didnt get purged by the online backup because they had 
>been replayed into the RSG database? if this is correct then i dont think i 
>need these log files anymore, because a full online backup was taken of the 
>prodcution DB right after the restore was done to the RSG.

The RSG is totally separate from the production stuff. You dont backup
the RSG.


>
>thanks for your help
>
>"Susan" wrote:
>
>> you backed up only the store?  not the entire storage group?  Transaction 
>> log files are not purged until/unless you back up the entire storage 
>> group...
>> 
>> -- 
>> Susan Conkey [MVP]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "skip"  wrote in message 
>> news:4B4D3784-3037-4B2C-9973-AD38A5AB159A@microsoft.com...
>> > after i did the restore, and was able to get the emails i needed, i ran a
>> > full online backup on the production DB, after the backup completed, i
>> > noticed that all the log files i copied to the RSG (to roll the RSG 
>> > forward)
>> > did not get purged by the online backup, i am wondering why this happened?
>> >
>> > "Susan" wrote:
>> >
>> >> you ran a full backup on what?  if you mean your production db, then no, 
>> >> the
>> >> log files you copied to your RSG wouldn't have been affected by that...
>> >>
>> >> -- 
>> >> Susan Conkey [MVP]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "skip"  wrote in message
>> >> news:243299CF-803B-456C-8A9F-E95E0663DCF5@microsoft.com...
>> >> > One thing i noticed, i ran a full online backup. and the transaction 
>> >> > log
>> >> > files that i copied to the RSG didnt get purged when the full backup 
>> >> > ran,
>> >> > so
>> >> > i am assuming that these log files were commited to the RSG database
>> >> > therefore they wont get purged after an online backup runs? if this is
>> >> > correct do i still need these log files? again my full online backup
>> >> > completed succesfully
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > "skip" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> This seems to have worked, what i did was copy all of the transaction 
>> >> >> log
>> >> >> files that had been created since the last full backup and the
>> >> >> restore.env
>> >> >> file  and copied them to c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery storage
>> >> >> group\mailbostore, i then ran a restore to the RSG and selected to not
>> >> >> commint after restore complets. After the restore of the DB to the RSG
>> >> >> completed, i then ran eseutil /cc "c:\program files\exchsrvr\recovery
>> >> >> storage
>> >> >> group" once this completed succesfully i mounted the RSG database and 
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> able to restore the missing emails that were shift deleted after the 
>> >> >> last
>> >> >> full backup was done (last sunday)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can somone please let me know if i went down the right direction with
>> >> >> this?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Susan" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > see this:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998097(EXCHG.65).aspx
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -- 
>> >> >> > Susan Conkey [MVP]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "skip"  wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:8D383DE4-365D-4748-A48F-04C7637AE65D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > > Hello all
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I am running Exchange 2003 sp2 server, at the moment we are 
>> >> >> > > running
>> >> >> > > exchange
>> >> >> > > full backups once a week, no incremental backups are occuring. The
>> >> >> > > backup
>> >> >> > > job
>> >> >> > > runs every sunday. I now need to recover emails that were hard
>> >> >> > > deleted
>> >> >> > > this
>> >> >> > > twesday, I no these emails are not part of the backup job that ran 
>> >> >> > > on
>> >> >> > > Sunday,
>> >> >> > > so by creating a RSG restoring the DB to the RSG, i am assuming i
>> >> >> > > will not
>> >> >> > > see these emails that i am looking for? I do however have the
>> >> >> > > transaction
>> >> >> > > log
>> >> >> > > files on disk from the last full backup, can i copy these trans 
>> >> >> > > files
>> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > transaction file location of the RSG, and then run ESEUTIL /CC
>> >> >> > > “G:\Program
>> >> >> > > Files\Exchsrvr\Recovery Storage Groupâ€ÂÂ? once the 
>> >> >> > > restore
>> >> >> > > operation has
>> >> >> > > completed, will this bring the RSG DB up to date?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thanks
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 
>> 
>> 
>>