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date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:25:17 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.admin        back       


Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange 2007   
We sometimes get some domains that say we are rejecting messages on our 
front-end  Exchange 2007 server (fully patched to the latest avialable). 
We worked with microsoft and our connectors were configured by them but we 
still get domains that cannot send to us.

We known that there is an issue with Exchange 2003 
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/818222)

Does anyone know how to correct this issue?

Thanks,
Eric Sabo
date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:25:17 -0400   author:   Sabo, Eric

RE: Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange   
Hi Eric can you provide a bit more details of your setup.

Do you have a EDge Server?

can you post the log entry?

"Sabo, Eric" wrote:

> We sometimes get some domains that say we are rejecting messages on our 
> front-end  Exchange 2007 server (fully patched to the latest avialable). 
> We worked with microsoft and our connectors were configured by them but we 
> still get domains that cannot send to us.
> 
> We known that there is an issue with Exchange 2003 
> (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/818222)
> 
> Does anyone know how to correct this issue?
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric Sabo
>
date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:29:00 -0700   author:   Roan Daley

Re: Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange 2007   
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:25:17 -0400, "Sabo, Eric" 
wrote:

>We sometimes get some domains that say we are rejecting messages on our 
>front-end  Exchange 2007 server (fully patched to the latest avialable). 
>We worked with microsoft and our connectors were configured by them but we 
>still get domains that cannot send to us.
>
>We known that there is an issue with Exchange 2003 
>(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/818222)

That's for messages yo send, not for messages sent to you.

>Does anyone know how to correct this issue?

Before you do anything, ask them to examine their log files and tell
you what they see in there. Is it your IP addres they connect to? Is
it your server that sends them something other than 2xx and 3xx status
values?

What does your SMTP log tell you about this? Do you see any
connections fromthem in your logs?
date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:43:12 -0400   author:   Rich Matheisen

Re: Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange   
No edge servers in our environment.

The strange thing is nothing is logged either in terms of event log or SMTP 
logging.




"Roan Daley"  wrote in message 
news:0C54581B-D1B5-46B0-83FC-F168D2F1DDA8@microsoft.com...
> Hi Eric can you provide a bit more details of your setup.
>
> Do you have a EDge Server?
>
> can you post the log entry?
>
> "Sabo, Eric" wrote:
>
>> We sometimes get some domains that say we are rejecting messages on our
>> front-end  Exchange 2007 server (fully patched to the latest avialable).
>> We worked with microsoft and our connectors were configured by them but 
>> we
>> still get domains that cannot send to us.
>>
>> We known that there is an issue with Exchange 2003
>> (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/818222)
>>
>> Does anyone know how to correct this issue?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric Sabo
>>
date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:34:58 -0400   author:   Sabo, Eric

Re: Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange   
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:34:58 -0400, "Sabo, Eric" 
wrote:

>No edge servers in our environment.
>
>The strange thing is nothing is logged either in terms of event log or SMTP 
>logging.
>

What is the exact NDR  senders get?


>
>
>
>"Roan Daley"  wrote in message 
>news:0C54581B-D1B5-46B0-83FC-F168D2F1DDA8@microsoft.com...
>> Hi Eric can you provide a bit more details of your setup.
>>
>> Do you have a EDge Server?
>>
>> can you post the log entry?
>>
>> "Sabo, Eric" wrote:
>>
>>> We sometimes get some domains that say we are rejecting messages on our
>>> front-end  Exchange 2007 server (fully patched to the latest avialable).
>>> We worked with microsoft and our connectors were configured by them but 
>>> we
>>> still get domains that cannot send to us.
>>>
>>> We known that there is an issue with Exchange 2003
>>> (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/818222)
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to correct this issue?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eric Sabo
>>>
date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:50:48 -0400   author:   Andy David {MVP}

Re: Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange 2007   
Rich,

Messages being sent by other domains (incoming SMTP)

the only thing is we get a lot of Event ID: 1035 in the application log.



"Rich Matheisen"  wrote in message 
news:r8fq541feeohb1u584qre78gs22cpklb2k@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:25:17 -0400, "Sabo, Eric" 
> wrote:
>
>>We sometimes get some domains that say we are rejecting messages on our
>>front-end  Exchange 2007 server (fully patched to the latest avialable).
>>We worked with microsoft and our connectors were configured by them but we
>>still get domains that cannot send to us.
>>
>>We known that there is an issue with Exchange 2003
>>(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/818222)
>
> That's for messages yo send, not for messages sent to you.
>
>>Does anyone know how to correct this issue?
>
> Before you do anything, ask them to examine their log files and tell
> you what they see in there. Is it your IP addres they connect to? Is
> it your server that sends them something other than 2xx and 3xx status
> values?
>
> What does your SMTP log tell you about this? Do you see any
> connections fromthem in your logs?
date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:46:24 -0400   author:   Sabo, Eric

Re: Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange 2007   
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:46:24 -0400, "Sabo, Eric" 
wrote:

>Messages being sent by other domains (incoming SMTP)

That was clear in your original post. But you need to ask the admins
of the sending domains to tell you why they think you're rejecting
their ail -- and it's best to get the parts of theor SMTP log file
that shows you what the problem is rather ten relying on their written
description.

>the only thing is we get a lot of Event ID: 1035 in the application log.

Wrong log. You want to look in the SMTP log files, not the
Applications even log.
date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:38:10 -0400   author:   Rich Matheisen

Re: Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange 2007   
Rich,

SMTP logs are not clear either why that are being rejected.    That is why I 
am posting.   There are thousands on these events in a 24 hour period. 
This issue was suppose to be resolve in Service Pack 1 but was never 
address.



"Rich Matheisen"  wrote in message 
news:aag064pgv4i808moogbk9elbgt3ls5nvbb@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:46:24 -0400, "Sabo, Eric" 
> wrote:
>
>>Messages being sent by other domains (incoming SMTP)
>
> That was clear in your original post. But you need to ask the admins
> of the sending domains to tell you why they think you're rejecting
> their ail -- and it's best to get the parts of theor SMTP log file
> that shows you what the problem is rather ten relying on their written
> description.
>
>>the only thing is we get a lot of Event ID: 1035 in the application log.
>
> Wrong log. You want to look in the SMTP log files, not the
> Applications even log.
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:16:46 -0400   author:   Sabo, Eric

Re: Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange 2007   
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Sabo, Eric" 
wrote:

>SMTP logs are not clear either why that are being rejected.    

I guess we'll never know what the problem is, then. If your server is
rejecting the message it's in the SMTP log. But if you just say "it's
not clear" then there's nothing more I can offer.

>That is why I 
>am posting.   

But you've provided no useful information. "Event id 1035" by itself
is meaningless. The KB article you cited is for mail you send, not for
mail you receive.

>There are thousands on these events in a 24 hour period. 

Wonderful. Whatever "these" are only you know.

>This issue was suppose to be resolve in Service Pack 1 but was never 
>address.

If you say so.
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:33:30 -0400   author:   Rich Matheisen

Re: Internet Messages sometimes get rejected on our Front-End Exchange 2007   
Rich,

I had a call opened with Microsoft for this particular issue, they know 
about and they never fixed in Exchange 2007 Service pack 1 - nor any rollup 
after that.

I don't know what else to tell you.    It seems that we have uncovered lots 
of issues with Exchange 2007 so far and the hotfix turnaround has been 
months of waiting.

With no hotfixes for our issues.


"Rich Matheisen"  wrote in message 
news:2b4364d0efek23dg1utreipkr56tq1pk1h@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Sabo, Eric" 
> wrote:
>
>>SMTP logs are not clear either why that are being rejected.
>
> I guess we'll never know what the problem is, then. If your server is
> rejecting the message it's in the SMTP log. But if you just say "it's
> not clear" then there's nothing more I can offer.
>
>>That is why I
>>am posting.
>
> But you've provided no useful information. "Event id 1035" by itself
> is meaningless. The KB article you cited is for mail you send, not for
> mail you receive.
>
>>There are thousands on these events in a 24 hour period.
>
> Wonderful. Whatever "these" are only you know.
>
>>This issue was suppose to be resolve in Service Pack 1 but was never
>>address.
>
> If you say so.
date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:55:56 -0400   author:   Sabo, Eric

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