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date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:33:08 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.admin        back       


OWA doesn't work for some migrated user E2K3 -> E2K7   
Another issue I'm encountering when migrating some users, OWA does not work 
for some of them. It says they do not have permission to access the mailbox 
from OWA but Outlook works fine. When I go in and put "self" as having full 
mailbox access, it starts to work. The thiing is I don't know if it is 
simply the act of changing the permissions that is making it work because 
other users that don't have "self" in the permissions list work fine and 
taking the "self" permission back out after OWA starts working does not 
bring back the OWA error.

I'm moving user mailboxes from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2007 using the 2007 
EMC.

Has anyone experienced this issue and come up with a resolution?
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:33:08 -0700   author:   am

RE: OWA doesn't work for some migrated user E2K3 -> E2K7   
Hello,

Thank you for your post. My name is Robbin Meng, and it is my pleasure to 
work with you on this issue! 

Please allow me to confirm that my understandings are correct. As I 
understand it, the issue is:

After moving some users' mailboxes from Exchange 2003 server to Exchange 
2007 server, some users cannot log on OWA and error is received that says 
they do not have permission to access the mailbox from OWA. When you add 
"Self" to the Full Access Control list, OWA began to work and even after 
you removed the "Self" back, OWA still works. Outlook always works fine for 
all users. Since other people do not have "Self" permission, you'd like to 
know if this is a solution or not.

If I have misunderstood your concerns please feel free to let me know.

Theoretically speaking, if the replication is complete after you moved the 
mailbox server, this issue won't occur. No mater Exchange 2003 mailbox or 
Exchange 2007 mailbox, the Self permission is listed in the Full Access 
Permission list. If you remove it manually, both OWA and Outlook should not 
be able to log on due to lacking of log on permission.

However, there is a time difference among the following components: 

o The front-end Exchange computers  
o The back-end Exchange computers  
o The global catalog servers  
o The domain controllers  

By default, the permitted time difference is five minutes. Authentication 
fails if the time difference exceeds five minutes.

Based on the current situation, I suggest we monitor this issue for some 
days. At the same time, after moving mailbox, please wait for some time 
(more than 5 mins)for Exchange server replication and then log on OWA 
again. And be careful to use the Exchange server name instead of the old 
Exchange 2003 server name when typing http URL address. 


Hope those information helps. I look forward to your reply. Also, if you 
have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to let me know.

Thank you for your time and cooperation!


Best regards,
Robbin Meng(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:35 GMT   author:   (Robbin Meng [MSFT])

Re: OWA doesn't work for some migrated user E2K3 -> E2K7   
Hi Robbin,

Your understading is correct but I've found something new as I'll explain 
below. The times are in sync between all the servers. Let me explain a 
little history on how the "self" permission has been excluded for some 
users. Back when we migrated from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003, we 
performed an intraorg migration. The accounts on Exchange 5.5 did not have 
the self permission and instead had "domain\username" as the account with 
full access rights the the mailbox. This carried over to Exchange 2003 
during the migration. When "domain\username" attempted to log into his/her 
mailbox through OWA and Outlook in Exchange 2003, everything worked fine. 
New users that are configured have the "self" permission assigned as 
automatically.

I'm looking at my mailbox permissions in ADUC and don't have "self" but have 
my upn credentials (myusername@domain.org). OWA and Outlook work fine for 
me.

Also, when I migrated myself over to Exchange 2007, I never had any issues 
with OWA or Outlook. It just worked like it should. I am really baffled at 
what could cause this error.




OK, I just found a live one. This is the exact error I'm getting when 
attempting to log into OWA as that user:

You do not have permission to open this mailbox. For access or for more 
information, contact technical support for your organization.

Looking at the user's mailbox permission yields:

Self - full mailbox rights
users UPN name - no rights (not listed in mailbox permissions)
Other exchange groups - various rights
Exchange backup account - full mailbox rights

I'm going to try to assign another user rights to this user's mailbox to see 
if the simple act of assigning a permission to the mailbox makes it start 
working in OWA. By the way, the user hasn't complainted and is working in 
Outlook fine.

Wow, I'm really getting to know that Powershell command 
(add-mailboxpermission). Ok, I added full mailbox rights for another user 
(user has nothing to do with the backup account) and OWA started working but 
it seems the problem has evolved and I should redefine it. I remember this 
user changing his theme to XBOX 360 right after I migrated him so I'm sure 
he was able to log in through OWA. It looks like I'm having a problem 
logging into their account with the "Exchange backup account" mentioned 
above and after making a change to mailbox rights, I can then log into the 
user's mailbox with that account. It should be noted that I have already 
added the AD-permission at the database level to give "receive-as" rights to 
the "Exchange backup account" and that I can log into any user's account on 
that database using Outlook but I get the error I mentioned above when 
logging into their account via OWA after a migration. This user has been 
migrtated for more than a week so i'm sure A/D replication has taken place.

redefinded issue: Can't log into user's account via OWA using an account 
that has full mailbox access rights (prior to the migration) after migrating 
them from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2007. After making any addition to the 
user's mailbox rights, the account again has access to log in through OWA. 
"receive-as" permissions have aleady been assign to this account via 
powershell at the database level.

This is much information. I hope you can help me.

Thank you in advanced.








""Robbin Meng [MSFT]""  wrote in message 
news:g%23gwoef0IHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your post. My name is Robbin Meng, and it is my pleasure to
> work with you on this issue!
>
> Please allow me to confirm that my understandings are correct. As I
> understand it, the issue is:
>
> After moving some users' mailboxes from Exchange 2003 server to Exchange
> 2007 server, some users cannot log on OWA and error is received that says
> they do not have permission to access the mailbox from OWA. When you add
> "Self" to the Full Access Control list, OWA began to work and even after
> you removed the "Self" back, OWA still works. Outlook always works fine 
> for
> all users. Since other people do not have "Self" permission, you'd like to
> know if this is a solution or not.
>
> If I have misunderstood your concerns please feel free to let me know.
>
> Theoretically speaking, if the replication is complete after you moved the
> mailbox server, this issue won't occur. No mater Exchange 2003 mailbox or
> Exchange 2007 mailbox, the Self permission is listed in the Full Access
> Permission list. If you remove it manually, both OWA and Outlook should 
> not
> be able to log on due to lacking of log on permission.
>
> However, there is a time difference among the following components:
>
> o The front-end Exchange computers
> o The back-end Exchange computers
> o The global catalog servers
> o The domain controllers
>
> By default, the permitted time difference is five minutes. Authentication
> fails if the time difference exceeds five minutes.
>
> Based on the current situation, I suggest we monitor this issue for some
> days. At the same time, after moving mailbox, please wait for some time
> (more than 5 mins)for Exchange server replication and then log on OWA
> again. And be careful to use the Exchange server name instead of the old
> Exchange 2003 server name when typing http URL address.
>
>
> Hope those information helps. I look forward to your reply. Also, if you
> have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to let me know.
>
> Thank you for your time and cooperation!
>
>
> Best regards,
> Robbin Meng(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> =====================================================
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check 
> the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In 
> doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> =====================================================
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no 
> rights.
>
date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:31:05 -0700   author:   am

Re: OWA doesn't work for some migrated user E2K3 -> E2K7   
Hi,

Glad to hear from you.

I just replied to you in our another issue about "Send Permission". These 
two issues are definitely related. As I have indicated earlier, this is 
actually an AD user object permission issue rather than a pure Exchange  
mailbox issue. 

User Exchange permissions are configured and stored in AD database and 
doesn't matter where user's mailbox is located. These two issues occur just 
because the previous Exchange Org upgrade and migration didn't completely 
and thoroughly that caused  Legacy Exchange Permissions problems.  So 
please refer to my last emails for more information.

At the same time, to get this issue resolved  more efficiently, you are 
also welcome to post it in our Windows Security news group for more 
information.

Thank you for your time and cooperation!


Best regards,
Robbin Meng(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:00:22 GMT   author:   (Robbin Meng [MSFT])

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