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date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:12:49 +0400,    group: microsoft.public.exchange.admin        back       


EdgeTransport.exe took 98% CPU time   
Hello,

My Exchange HUB Server stopped working with the following symptoms
The process EdgeTransport.exe took 98% CPU time, and 
\TransportRoles\QueueDatabasePath\
file mail.que increases in the amount per minute at approximately 100mb, 
then when the size mail.que reaches  about 4 GB service 
MSExchangeTransport.exe dies, after auto start its stuck at the stage of 
starting.

At the same time, there is a normal activity in mail queue

What could be caused so abnormal behavior?

Configurations Server farm,
local 2 global catalogs in same subnet, 1Gb net link
1 HUB/CAS Server Exchange Server 2007 SP1, UR1,
2 Mailbox in Cluster SCR, Exchange Server 2007 SP1, UR1
Forefront Security for Exchange SP1, on HUB/CAS Server, currently in disable 
stage.


Thanks,

Arman Obosyan.
date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:12:49 +0400   author:   Arman Obosyan am

RE: EdgeTransport.exe took 98% CPU time   
Hello,

Thank you for your post. My name is Robbin Meng, and it is my pleasure to 
work with you on this issue! 

Please allow me to confirm that my understandings are correct. As I 
understand it, the issue is:

The Exchange HUB Server stopped working and the process Exchange Transport 
Service (EdgeTransport.exe) took 98% CPU. The Mai Queue increases in the 
amount per minute at approximately 100mb, then the size of Mail Queue 
reaches  about 4 GB

If I have misunderstood your concerns please feel free to let me know.

The worker process (EdgeTransport.exe) is responsible for receiving the 
SmtpReceive connections from the Process Manager (MSExchangeTransport.exe) 
and performing all of the work associated with message delivery.

Based on the current symptoms and research, I suggest we consider the 
following scenarios:

1. If you have install any anti-virus or anti-spam software like MacAfee or 
Trend, please temporarily disable all of them.

2. Have you install Edge Transport server role? If so, please check if 
there is any recipient filtering/Connection filtering etc. to block some of 
the mails.

3. Check if open relay had been opened on the server that caused many UCE 
messages.

4. If there is any large message(possible zipped file) that was being sent 
through the system. 

At the same time, have you installed the latest Update Rollup 2 for 
Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 1? If not, please apply it from the 
following link: 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948016 


More information, please see:

The Edgetransport.exe process may stop unexpectedly on a Exchange Server 
2007-based edge server
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944321/en-us 

The Edgetransport.exe process may crash intermittently on an Exchange 
Server 2007 Service Pack 1 Edge server
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947551/en-us 


If the issue persists after performing the above steps, please help me to 
collect more information:

Information Need
==============
1.	If possible, please let me know when did this issue begin to occur and 
what you have changed on the HUB/CAS Server or other server that may caused 
this issue to occur.

2.	Check event viewer for related information, if there are anything 
related Transport service, please help save it to *.evt and send to me at: 
v-robmen@microsoft.com. 
  
I look forward to your reply. Also, if you have any questions or concerns, 
please do not hesitate to let me know. 

Thank you for your time and cooperation!


Best regards,

Robbin Meng(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:09:09 GMT   author:   (Robbin Meng [MSFT])

Re: EdgeTransport.exe took 98% CPU time   
The issue solved,

It was found that the problem arose only if the one of mailbox stores has 
been mounted (Mailbox-Q1a, 100Mb Storage quota, a proximal 1000 users)
After dismount store on the mailbox server, stop the service 
MSExchangeTransport  on HUB Server and removing the contents of the folder 
\TransportRoles\QueueDatabasePath\
And then starting the service MSExchangeTransport.exe, without a mount for 
Mailbox-Q1a, everything worked well, in addition there are other 3 Mailbox 
store about 2500 users in it.
All working well, and in the mail queue nothing special, just mails in queue 
because of a letter delivered offline Mailbox-Q1a, all services are working 
normally system works as needed. After mount Mailbox-Q1a all the letters of 
mail queue are delivered to customers all also functioning normally.
In a moment I noticed that just a few seconds, came in a letter size 858452 
KB (~ 830Mb !!!!!!!!!!!!!), first time not having to remove it, HUB server 
starts behave the same increase in mail.que file on HUB transport server in 
folder \TransportRoles\QueueDatabasePath\ , and so on, waiting a bit when 
the file size has reached approximately 2Gb I stopped the service 
MSExchangeTransport and running defrag mail.que (eseutil-d mail.que) and 
here it was! mail.que after defragmentation have 858452 size in KB, I check 
procedure dismount mount defrag a few times, all times repeated each time a 
letter in the mail queue to appear and disappear, even when removing it from 
the mail queue (Delete with NO NDR)
All repeated and repeated, after export senders mailbox to pst (of which was 
a great letter), and removed it from the server mailbox store (Mailbox-Q1a) 
and launch of Online Database Maintenance parameters Retain Deleted Mailbox 
0 days, and subsequent mounting base everything worked!

When viewing extracted pst file were identified as the user tried to send a 
movie(!!!) sizes in 613 Mb sent items in 613 MB, and in the inbox NDR witch 
text The message exceeds the maximum size allowed.

The question arises as a user sitting in Store which has a limit of 100 Mb 
push in himself mailbox 613Mb???
As Exchange has sent him a letter attached to the NDR in 613 Mb, when global 
limit set at 10 mb.
Why every time you mount store its goes to mail.que
Why.



Answers your questions.

1. Antivirus, Microsoft Forefront for Exchange Version: 10.1.0746.0 Service 
Pack: 1, on testing stage it's in disable mode (FSCUtility.exe / disable)
2. No we don't use Edge Server role (messages transferred directly to smtp 
smarthost (Appliance, Baracuda Spam Firewall))
3. No open relay, its internal server
4. Large message, yes as I described above

So far only installed Update Rollup 1 for Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 
1, Update Rollup 2 After testing in test lab planed to install in few days 
on production environment.


Thank you for your attention.


Arman Obosyan.




""Robbin Meng [MSFT]""  wrote in message 
news:XYT7jzztIHA.1784@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your post. My name is Robbin Meng, and it is my pleasure to
> work with you on this issue!
>
> Please allow me to confirm that my understandings are correct. As I
> understand it, the issue is:
>
> The Exchange HUB Server stopped working and the process Exchange Transport
> Service (EdgeTransport.exe) took 98% CPU. The Mai Queue increases in the
> amount per minute at approximately 100mb, then the size of Mail Queue
> reaches  about 4 GB
>
> If I have misunderstood your concerns please feel free to let me know.
>
> The worker process (EdgeTransport.exe) is responsible for receiving the
> SmtpReceive connections from the Process Manager (MSExchangeTransport.exe)
> and performing all of the work associated with message delivery.
>
> Based on the current symptoms and research, I suggest we consider the
> following scenarios:
>
> 1. If you have install any anti-virus or anti-spam software like MacAfee 
> or
> Trend, please temporarily disable all of them.
>
> 2. Have you install Edge Transport server role? If so, please check if
> there is any recipient filtering/Connection filtering etc. to block some 
> of
> the mails.
>
> 3. Check if open relay had been opened on the server that caused many UCE
> messages.
>
> 4. If there is any large message(possible zipped file) that was being sent
> through the system.
>
> At the same time, have you installed the latest Update Rollup 2 for
> Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 1? If not, please apply it from the
> following link:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948016
>
>
> More information, please see:
>
> The Edgetransport.exe process may stop unexpectedly on a Exchange Server
> 2007-based edge server
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944321/en-us
>
> The Edgetransport.exe process may crash intermittently on an Exchange
> Server 2007 Service Pack 1 Edge server
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947551/en-us
>
>
> If the issue persists after performing the above steps, please help me to
> collect more information:
>
> Information Need
> ==============
> 1. If possible, please let me know when did this issue begin to occur and
> what you have changed on the HUB/CAS Server or other server that may 
> caused
> this issue to occur.
>
> 2. Check event viewer for related information, if there are anything
> related Transport service, please help save it to *.evt and send to me at:
> v-robmen@microsoft.com.
>
> I look forward to your reply. Also, if you have any questions or concerns,
> please do not hesitate to let me know.
>
> Thank you for your time and cooperation!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Robbin Meng(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> =====================================================
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check 
> the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In 
> doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> =====================================================
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no 
> rights.
>
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:07:29 +0400   author:   Arman Obosyan am

Re: EdgeTransport.exe took 98% CPU time   
Hi Arman,

Thanks for your response and the detailed description. I am very glad to 
know we have found the root cause and  the issue is resolved.

Regarding restricting the message size, I'd like to explain size limits for 
messages depend on various settings. Settings can vary across users. You 
can customize the settings for the Exchange 2000 or Exchange 2003 
organization, a specific connector, a specific virtual server, and an 
individual user. 

For more information, please check following articles:

How to set size limits for messages in Exchange Server
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322679 

message size limits in Exchange 2007 
https://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3313362&SiteID=17 
 


Again, thank you for your time and cooperation! Please feel free to contact 
us again in the future.


Best regards,

Robbin Meng(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

=====================================================
This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues 
regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding 
newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner. 
You can locate the newsgroup here: 
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx

When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the 
"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are 
any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader, 
please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your 
issue.

Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we 
provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post 
different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing 
so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner. 

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please 
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
=====================================================

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
date: Mon, 19 May 2008 03:56:40 GMT   author:   (Robbin Meng [MSFT])

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