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date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:18:41 +0200,
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Re: [Sql Server 2008 RCO]Where is SSMS ?
Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP] (ten.xoc@dnartreb.noraa) writes:
>> There is absolutely no reason to uninstall anything of SQL 2005.
>
> I have one machine where I have both SSMS tools installed, but to be
> honest, I don't know how I did it. On another machine I was unable to
> install 2008 SSMS without uninstalling the 2005 tools.
I've two machines with both of them there. On my laptop, I don't recall
in which order I originally installed them, as I installed both SQL 2005
and SQL 2008 when I set up the machine. But I've uninstalled CTP6 and
installed RC0 since them.
On the other machine, I upgraded an SQL 2000 instance, and I already both
the SQL 2000 and the SQL 2005 tools there. Now, this upgrade has still not
completed successfully, but that's an issue with the engine. The tools
are there just fine, as are the SQL 2005 tools.
--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@sommarskog.se
Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:12:58 -0700
author: Erland Sommarskog
Re: [Sql Server 2008 RCO]Where is SSMS ?
Hey guys! See below what I've found in the SQL Server Setup Help (RC0' s
"F:\x86\help\1033\s10ch_setup.chm" Check out for "Considerations for
Installing SQL Server Management Tools" under the "Installing SQL Server
2008" topic)
"SQL Server 2008 Management Tools can run side-by-side on the same computer
with earlier versions of SQL Server Management Tools."
It seems that this behaviour has changed since it was not possible to
install the Client Tools of 2005 and 2008 side by side in earlier CTPs and
this was declared in the Readme file in the root of the media.
--
Ekrem Önsoy
"Erland Sommarskog" wrote in message
news:Xns9AD123DB6625Yazorman@127.0.0.1...
> Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP] (ten.xoc@dnartreb.noraa) writes:
>>> There is absolutely no reason to uninstall anything of SQL 2005.
>>
>> I have one machine where I have both SSMS tools installed, but to be
>> honest, I don't know how I did it. On another machine I was unable to
>> install 2008 SSMS without uninstalling the 2005 tools.
>
> I've two machines with both of them there. On my laptop, I don't recall
> in which order I originally installed them, as I installed both SQL 2005
> and SQL 2008 when I set up the machine. But I've uninstalled CTP6 and
> installed RC0 since them.
>
> On the other machine, I upgraded an SQL 2000 instance, and I already both
> the SQL 2000 and the SQL 2005 tools there. Now, this upgrade has still not
> completed successfully, but that's an issue with the engine. The tools
> are there just fine, as are the SQL 2005 tools.
>
>
> --
> Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@sommarskog.se
>
> Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books.mspx
> Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:03:06 +0300
author: Ekrem Önsoy
Re: [Sql Server 2008 RCO]Where is SSMS ?
Hi Ekrem,
"Ekrem Önsoy" a écrit dans le message de
news:209012C3-3109-46C6-9802-99DDC10650CC@microsoft.com...
[...]
>
> I asked you how and from where have you had this copy of the Setup? And
> you didn't reply to this question. Because I'm not sure if it's RC0. For
> example, what's the setup's file size? Is this the Express Edition or
> what?
I've downloaded two setups, the first is SQLEXPR2008_x86_FRA, size is 118
432 Kb (Express Edition for French language), the second is SQLFULL_ENU_x86,
size is 952 213 Kb. They were downloaded from download.microsoft.com.
I 've successfully installed the server with one new instance of SQL Express
2008 (SQLEXPR2008_x86_FRA,) on two machines:
- one w2k3 server, which already has two instances of Sql 2005 (one for
MOSS), SSMS 2005 and SSMS 2008 CTP6.
- the second server is on Vista SP1 Ultimate, which already has Sql 2005
Express server and SSMS 2005 Express.
Then I've tried to install SSMS 2008 RC0 with SQLEXPR2008_x86_FRA and
SQLFULL_ENU_x86 on both machines. Then I've uninstalled SSMS 2005 Express on
Vista and try to install again SSMS 2008 RC0, unsuccessfully.
> For instance the SQL Server 2008 RC0 Express Edition that I've downloaded
> is 100.693KB and it's file name is "SQLEXPR_x86_ENU.exe" and the one that
> I work on for test porpuses is the Evaluation Edition
> "SQLFULL_ENU_x86.iso" and its file size is 1.247.982KB
I don't see why the RC0 from Microsoft download site should be different for
you and me. Moreover, if by chance the file has been incorrectly downloaded,
I doubt that I could have succeeded in running the set up.
> Also, do you have a change to install this setup in another test machine?
I've also tried on XP SP1 machine, unsuccessfully.
> Or will you be able to set up a Virtual Machine to test it?
No
Thanks again for your support !
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:51:19 +0200
author: Oriane ail
Re: [Sql Server 2008 RCO]Where is SSMS ?
Our Setup files' sizes are different because of the languages. The setup
files I mentioned were in English and you say that yours are French. I don't
exactly know what cause these size differences but it happens and I don't
think your files are corrupt either otherwise they would not be running and
even if they'd run they'd crashed with weird error messages...
As far as I understand, you have three machines that you are trying to
install SQL Server 2008 X (whichever) Edition instance.
First, you successfully install it on your W2k3 and Vista SP1. Then you try
again and it failes or you can't find Management Tools on the Features List
or what? If there is an error, let us know the error message (as it is pls)
Also, I'm not sure if you are aware or not but the RC0 version of SQL Server
2008 should be used only for test purposes. This version of SQL Server 2008
is not appropriate for production environments. Somehow I feel these are not
test machines that you are trying to install this version of SQL Server? But
somehow you are using those machines just like a test machine because you
continually are installing and uninstalling SQL Server things?
--
Ekrem Önsoy
"Oriane" <oriane@noemail.noemail> wrote in message
news:2340F05E-C7AF-475F-A62C-DCED838D4B8D@microsoft.com...
> Hi Ekrem,
> "Ekrem Önsoy" a écrit dans le message de
> news:209012C3-3109-46C6-9802-99DDC10650CC@microsoft.com...
> [...]
>>
>> I asked you how and from where have you had this copy of the Setup? And
>> you didn't reply to this question. Because I'm not sure if it's RC0. For
>> example, what's the setup's file size? Is this the Express Edition or
>> what?
> I've downloaded two setups, the first is SQLEXPR2008_x86_FRA, size is 118
> 432 Kb (Express Edition for French language), the second is
> SQLFULL_ENU_x86, size is 952 213 Kb. They were downloaded from
> download.microsoft.com.
>
> I 've successfully installed the server with one new instance of SQL
> Express 2008 (SQLEXPR2008_x86_FRA,) on two machines:
> - one w2k3 server, which already has two instances of Sql 2005 (one for
> MOSS), SSMS 2005 and SSMS 2008 CTP6.
> - the second server is on Vista SP1 Ultimate, which already has Sql 2005
> Express server and SSMS 2005 Express.
>
> Then I've tried to install SSMS 2008 RC0 with SQLEXPR2008_x86_FRA and
> SQLFULL_ENU_x86 on both machines. Then I've uninstalled SSMS 2005 Express
> on Vista and try to install again SSMS 2008 RC0, unsuccessfully.
>
>> For instance the SQL Server 2008 RC0 Express Edition that I've downloaded
>> is 100.693KB and it's file name is "SQLEXPR_x86_ENU.exe" and the one that
>> I work on for test porpuses is the Evaluation Edition
>> "SQLFULL_ENU_x86.iso" and its file size is 1.247.982KB
> I don't see why the RC0 from Microsoft download site should be different
> for you and me. Moreover, if by chance the file has been incorrectly
> downloaded, I doubt that I could have succeeded in running the set up.
>
>> Also, do you have a change to install this setup in another test machine?
> I've also tried on XP SP1 machine, unsuccessfully.
>> Or will you be able to set up a Virtual Machine to test it?
> No
>
> Thanks again for your support !
>
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:41:14 +0300
author: Ekrem Önsoy
Re: [Sql Server 2008 RCO]Where is SSMS ?
Hi Ekrem,
"Ekrem Önsoy" a écrit dans le message de
news:364CDD19-DAFE-4005-A607-0FCA10F21ECC@microsoft.com...
[...]
> Also, I'm not sure if you are aware or not but the RC0 version of SQL
> Server 2008 should be used only for test purposes. This version of SQL
> Server 2008 is not appropriate for production environments.
I'm no using it on a production env, but on a dev machine, since I need asap
the FILESTREAM functionality.
> Somehow I feel these are not test machines that you are trying to install
> this version of SQL Server?
No since my company is rather small, I don't have the opportunity to test on
a test machine since we are not really outnumbered with our Windows
servers... On the other side, I could use virtual server but it is requiring
RAM and CPU and we don't have much of both.
> But somehow you are using those machines just like a test machine because
> you continually are installing and uninstalling SQL Server things?
No the point is the lack of documentation. If I had read this two days ago:
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2008/06/10/sql-server-2008-express-rc0.aspx, I
would have had no problem. I would have understood that the Express version
does not contain SSMS but that is is available on the "Advanced Services"
Express one.
But as you say, it is only a release candidate and I can't complain.
Now I've installed SSMS 2008 RC0 on my Vista and on my dev server, so it is
a happy ending.
Thanks again for your help.
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:47:57 +0200
author: Oriane ail
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