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date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:52:25 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server        back       


Maintenance Plan Logging.   
I have a SQL 2005 (Enterprise 9.0.3042) cluster that is having problems in 
the "Rebuild Index" section of the maintenance plan. So, I turned on logging 
to get to the bottom of it, but that section is not logged. Even if I 
disable all the other parts it still does not show anything in the log file. 
This is not a problem on my other SQL Servers.
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:52:25 -0400   author:   Shawn

Re: Maintenance Plan Logging.   
Can you be more specific on what kind of problems you are having?  Have you 
tried running a trace?

-- 
Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
Solid Quality Mentors


"Shawn"  wrote in message 
news:eKvjukYJJHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I have a SQL 2005 (Enterprise 9.0.3042) cluster that is having problems in 
>the "Rebuild Index" section of the maintenance plan. So, I turned on 
>logging to get to the bottom of it, but that section is not logged. Even if 
>I disable all the other parts it still does not show anything in the log 
>file. This is not a problem on my other SQL Servers.
>
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:19:57 -0400   author:   Andrew J. Kelly

Re: Maintenance Plan Logging.   
I am planning on doing that next, but I do want to know why that part of the 
job is not being logged as well.

"Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
news:%23veptYaJJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Can you be more specific on what kind of problems you are having?  Have 
> you tried running a trace?
>
> -- 
> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
> Solid Quality Mentors
>
>
> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
> news:eKvjukYJJHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I have a SQL 2005 (Enterprise 9.0.3042) cluster that is having problems in 
>>the "Rebuild Index" section of the maintenance plan. So, I turned on 
>>logging to get to the bottom of it, but that section is not logged. Even 
>>if I disable all the other parts it still does not show anything in the 
>>log file. This is not a problem on my other SQL Servers.
>>
>
date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:16:44 -0400   author:   Shawn

Re: Maintenance Plan Logging.   
What exactly do you mean by "turning on Logging"?  And what is the actual 
problem?

-- 
Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
Solid Quality Mentors


"Shawn"  wrote in message 
news:eP1NKX7JJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I am planning on doing that next, but I do want to know why that part of 
>the job is not being logged as well.
>
> "Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
> news:%23veptYaJJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Can you be more specific on what kind of problems you are having?  Have 
>> you tried running a trace?
>>
>> -- 
>> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
>> Solid Quality Mentors
>>
>>
>> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
>> news:eKvjukYJJHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I have a SQL 2005 (Enterprise 9.0.3042) cluster that is having problems 
>>>in the "Rebuild Index" section of the maintenance plan. So, I turned on 
>>>logging to get to the bottom of it, but that section is not logged. Even 
>>>if I disable all the other parts it still does not show anything in the 
>>>log file. This is not a problem on my other SQL Servers.
>>>
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:30:29 -0400   author:   Andrew J. Kelly

Re: Maintenance Plan Logging.   
When I set the log path in the maintenance plan, all the steps in the job 
are output to the log file, but not the rebuild index step. It is just 
blank.

"Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
news:%23FJiYA8JJHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> What exactly do you mean by "turning on Logging"?  And what is the actual 
> problem?
>
> -- 
> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
> Solid Quality Mentors
>
>
> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
> news:eP1NKX7JJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I am planning on doing that next, but I do want to know why that part of 
>>the job is not being logged as well.
>>
>> "Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
>> news:%23veptYaJJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Can you be more specific on what kind of problems you are having?  Have 
>>> you tried running a trace?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
>>> Solid Quality Mentors
>>>
>>>
>>> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
>>> news:eKvjukYJJHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have a SQL 2005 (Enterprise 9.0.3042) cluster that is having problems 
>>>>in the "Rebuild Index" section of the maintenance plan. So, I turned on 
>>>>logging to get to the bottom of it, but that section is not logged. Even 
>>>>if I disable all the other parts it still does not show anything in the 
>>>>log file. This is not a problem on my other SQL Servers.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:44:39 -0400   author:   Shawn

Re: Maintenance Plan Logging.   
OK I get that part, but what is the core problem you are having. You say you 
are "having problems on the rebuild index". What kind of problems? What are 
the symptoms. If there is no logging the step may not have anything to do 
but we need details of why you think there is a problem.

-- 
Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
Solid Quality Mentors


"Shawn"  wrote in message 
news:%23YuNA2AKJHA.5336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> When I set the log path in the maintenance plan, all the steps in the job 
> are output to the log file, but not the rebuild index step. It is just 
> blank.
>
> "Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
> news:%23FJiYA8JJHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> What exactly do you mean by "turning on Logging"?  And what is the actual 
>> problem?
>>
>> -- 
>> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
>> Solid Quality Mentors
>>
>>
>> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
>> news:eP1NKX7JJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I am planning on doing that next, but I do want to know why that part of 
>>>the job is not being logged as well.
>>>
>>> "Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
>>> news:%23veptYaJJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Can you be more specific on what kind of problems you are having?  Have 
>>>> you tried running a trace?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
>>>> Solid Quality Mentors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:eKvjukYJJHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I have a SQL 2005 (Enterprise 9.0.3042) cluster that is having problems 
>>>>>in the "Rebuild Index" section of the maintenance plan. So, I turned on 
>>>>>logging to get to the bottom of it, but that section is not logged. 
>>>>>Even if I disable all the other parts it still does not show anything 
>>>>>in the log file. This is not a problem on my other SQL Servers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:47:31 -0400   author:   Andrew J. Kelly

Re: Maintenance Plan Logging.   
I get a failed job message with no real detail, so I was going to rely on 
the log to get down to the problem. If I disable all of the step except the 
index rebuild it works. If I only enable that, it fails. I can run some 
traces or run the rebuilds manually, but I really want to know why that step 
is not logging at all when the others do. I am actually less concerned (at 
this point) with the job failure than the lack of logging for testing it.

"Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
news:OA3PMZBKJHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> OK I get that part, but what is the core problem you are having. You say 
> you are "having problems on the rebuild index". What kind of problems? 
> What are the symptoms. If there is no logging the step may not have 
> anything to do but we need details of why you think there is a problem.
>
> -- 
> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
> Solid Quality Mentors
>
>
> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
> news:%23YuNA2AKJHA.5336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> When I set the log path in the maintenance plan, all the steps in the job 
>> are output to the log file, but not the rebuild index step. It is just 
>> blank.
>>
>> "Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
>> news:%23FJiYA8JJHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> What exactly do you mean by "turning on Logging"?  And what is the 
>>> actual problem?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
>>> Solid Quality Mentors
>>>
>>>
>>> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
>>> news:eP1NKX7JJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>I am planning on doing that next, but I do want to know why that part of 
>>>>the job is not being logged as well.
>>>>
>>>> "Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:%23veptYaJJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Can you be more specific on what kind of problems you are having? 
>>>>> Have you tried running a trace?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
>>>>> Solid Quality Mentors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:eKvjukYJJHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I have a SQL 2005 (Enterprise 9.0.3042) cluster that is having 
>>>>>>problems in the "Rebuild Index" section of the maintenance plan. So, I 
>>>>>>turned on logging to get to the bottom of it, but that section is not 
>>>>>>logged. Even if I disable all the other parts it still does not show 
>>>>>>anything in the log file. This is not a problem on my other SQL 
>>>>>>Servers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:05:24 -0400   author:   Shawn

Re: Maintenance Plan Logging.   
It is hard to say why the MP's do anything as they are so poorly designed in 
many cases and just one reason why I avoid them.  I suspect the logging may 
have something to do with the severity of the error is so high that it exits 
before it can even log.  I would definitely recommend tracing that step and 
make sure to include the beginning and ending events along with the errors 
and exceptions ones as well. If the trace doesn't tell you enough you can 
take the actual command it is sending to SQL Server and paste that into the 
Query Editor where you should get a decent error message and idea of what is 
going on.

-- 
Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
Solid Quality Mentors


"Shawn"  wrote in message 
news:eaSZMECKJHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I get a failed job message with no real detail, so I was going to rely on 
>the log to get down to the problem. If I disable all of the step except the 
>index rebuild it works. If I only enable that, it fails. I can run some 
>traces or run the rebuilds manually, but I really want to know why that 
>step is not logging at all when the others do. I am actually less concerned 
>(at this point) with the job failure than the lack of logging for testing 
>it.
>
> "Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
> news:OA3PMZBKJHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> OK I get that part, but what is the core problem you are having. You say 
>> you are "having problems on the rebuild index". What kind of problems? 
>> What are the symptoms. If there is no logging the step may not have 
>> anything to do but we need details of why you think there is a problem.
>>
>> -- 
>> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
>> Solid Quality Mentors
>>
>>
>> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
>> news:%23YuNA2AKJHA.5336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> When I set the log path in the maintenance plan, all the steps in the 
>>> job are output to the log file, but not the rebuild index step. It is 
>>> just blank.
>>>
>>> "Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
>>> news:%23FJiYA8JJHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> What exactly do you mean by "turning on Logging"?  And what is the 
>>>> actual problem?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
>>>> Solid Quality Mentors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:eP1NKX7JJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I am planning on doing that next, but I do want to know why that part 
>>>>>of the job is not being logged as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andrew J. Kelly"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:%23veptYaJJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Can you be more specific on what kind of problems you are having? 
>>>>>> Have you tried running a trace?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Andrew J. Kelly    SQL MVP
>>>>>> Solid Quality Mentors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Shawn"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:eKvjukYJJHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>I have a SQL 2005 (Enterprise 9.0.3042) cluster that is having 
>>>>>>>problems in the "Rebuild Index" section of the maintenance plan. So, 
>>>>>>>I turned on logging to get to the bottom of it, but that section is 
>>>>>>>not logged. Even if I disable all the other parts it still does not 
>>>>>>>show anything in the log file. This is not a problem on my other SQL 
>>>>>>>Servers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:46:02 -0400   author:   Andrew J. Kelly

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