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date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:39:56 -0700 (PDT),    group: microsoft.public.visio.database.modeling        back       


tables dropped from ERD diagram also get dropped from "tables and views"   
JRough
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	 More options Jun 5, 3:32 pm
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From: JRough 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 5 2008 3:32 pm
Subject: can't delete table shapes from an ERD without loosing base
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I have problem.  When I have a duplicate table on my ERD diagram and
go to delete one of them it deletes both of them and even worse it
deletes the base table in "tables and views".  I got all those tables
from reverse engineering a SQL database and I don't want them to be
deleted just because I delete a table shape from my diagram.  I cannot
figure out what the "options" would be to change it.  The options
don't make sense to me:

*Always drop from model
*drop from model only if last occurrence on diagram
*never drop from model
*ask user what to do

I have chosen "never drop from model" but as I said if I happen to
delete a table shape from my ERD then that base table in "tables and
views" is gone forever.  I just want to move it to a 2nd page.  What
is going on here?

There are some other options:
*Sync conceptual and physical names in new tables and columns when
typing

I'm not exactly sure what this does.  I want all my tables from the
SQL SErver datasource to stay in the "tables and views".  Visio does
not need to sync with SQL Server at this point since I already reverse
engineered  all the tables I wanted into Visio.
If I uncheck this will it allow me to remove tables from the diagram
and leave the tables in "tables and views" so I can add them to a 2nd
page or move them around?  If I uncheck will I just loose
tia
date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:39:56 -0700 (PDT)   author:   JRough

RE: tables dropped from ERD diagram also get dropped from "tables and views"   
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\viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs26 See my response below for the question of the Model versus the shapes on the page.
\par 
\par On the question of  Syncing Conceptual and Physical names:  This allows you to type one name, and force the other one to update automatically to match. I like this option, but many modelers prefer to keep their physical name formats completely separate from the conceptual ones, and we allow that by unchecking the Sync box.  If you don't use Conceptual names, then keeping them synchronized is best.
\par 
\par Barb Way
\par Product Support - Visio
\par Microsoft Corporation
\par [This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.]
\par \pard\li720 --------------------
\par 
\par 
\par JRough
\par View profile
\par \tab  More options Jun 5, 3:32 pm
\par Newsgroups: microsoft.public.visio.database.modeling
\par From: JRough 
\par Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
\par Local: Thurs, Jun 5 2008 3:32 pm
\par Subject: can't delete table shapes from an ERD without loosing base
\par tables
\par Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show
\par original | Remove | Report this message | Find messages by this author
\par I have problem.  When I have a duplicate table on my ERD diagram and
\par go to delete one of them it deletes both of them and even worse it
\par deletes the base table in "tables and views".  I got all those tables
\par from reverse engineering a SQL database and I don't want them to be
\par deleted just because I delete a table shape from my diagram.  I cannot
\par figure out what the "options" would be to change it.  The options
\par don't make sense to me:
\par 
\par *Always drop from model
\par *drop from model only if last occurrence on diagram
\par *never drop from model
\par *ask user what to do
\par 
\par I have chosen "never drop from model" but as I said if I happen to
\par delete a table shape from my ERD then that base table in "tables and
\par views" is gone forever.  I just want to move it to a 2nd page.  What
\par is going on here?
\par 
\par There are some other options:
\par *Sync conceptual and physical names in new tables and columns when
\par typing
\par 
\par I'm not exactly sure what this does.  I want all my tables from the
\par SQL SErver datasource to stay in the "tables and views".  Visio does
\par not need to sync with SQL Server at this point since I already reverse
\par engineered  all the tables I wanted into Visio.
\par If I uncheck this will it allow me to remove tables from the diagram
\par and leave the tables in "tables and views" so I can add them to a 2nd
\par page or move them around?  If I uncheck will I just loose
\par tia
\par \pard 
\par 
\par }
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:40:46 GMT   author:   (Barb Way)

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