Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help again...

So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum i find 
out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is Javascript 
links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny the 
Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option "enable 
javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is that in 
all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only those 
two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the javascript from 
the links?? 

URL: www.europe-hotels.gr

The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by country " 
above the map..

Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate


Panos

Those links don't work in FF or IE


-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






"Panos"  wrote in message 
news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help again...
>
> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum i 
> find
> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is Javascript
> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny the
> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option 
> "enable
> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is that 
> in
> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only those
> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the javascript 
> from
> the links??
>
> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
>
> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by country 
> "
> above the map..
>
> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
>
>
> Panos
>
>
>
>

Thank you Rob, 

So thats mean that i have to change the current design in those links.



Best regards
Panos

The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only javascript you 
have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the page, view 
the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for "search by city", 
and you will see there is nothing in there about javascript. But if you 
search for javascript, it is associated with the google stuff.

The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It appears 
that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup them, or pull 
the text outside the "design" you have them in, or perhaps make sure that 
those designs don't overlap the map below it.

Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I wouldn't 
be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of cities at the 
bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this practice is a no no these 
days....but I could be wrong.

DavidF

"Panos"  wrote in message 
news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help again...
>
> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum i 
> find
> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is Javascript
> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny the
> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option 
> "enable
> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is that 
> in
> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only those
> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the javascript 
> from
> the links??
>
> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
>
> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by country 
> "
> above the map..
>
> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
>
>
> Panos
>
>
>
>

IE7,  FF2, Safari 2

home page behaves identically in all three browsers:

The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no search as 
it suggests)
The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to be a 
link.

The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is REALLY 
annoying.

This is different than it  was this morning.




-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






"DavidF"  wrote in message 
news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only javascript you 
> have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the page, view 
> the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for "search by 
> city", and you will see there is nothing in there about javascript. But if 
> you search for javascript, it is associated with the google stuff.
>
> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It 
> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup 
> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or perhaps 
> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
>
> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I 
> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of cities 
> at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this practice is a no no 
> these days....but I could be wrong.
>
> DavidF
>
> "Panos"  wrote in message 
> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help again...
>>
>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum i 
>> find
>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is Javascript
>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny the
>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option 
>> "enable
>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is that 
>> in
>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only 
>> those
>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the javascript 
>> from
>> the links??
>>
>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
>>
>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by 
>> country "
>> above the map..
>>
>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
>>
>>
>> Panos
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Hi Rob,

I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it the first 
time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now that XP isn't 
available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I do like it...

I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. It took 
me a while to sort out, but if you go to http://www.europe-hotels.gr/ that 
page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by Country link, it 
displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and City links are 
deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active links now work in 
FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on the maps.

In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as to how 
to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over the map 
that there are links that will search the different cities and the different 
countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what to do once they 
find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole process, and possible 
remove the link to the City page when on the city page, and the link to the 
Country page when on the country page.... I am not sure what exactly he 
should do, but right now it is too confusing and he needs to add directions. 
My two cents worth...

DavidF


"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message 
news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
>
> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
>
> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no search 
> as it suggests)
> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to be a 
> link.
>
> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is REALLY 
> annoying.
>
> This is different than it  was this morning.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Rob Giordano
> Microsoft MVP Expression
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "DavidF"  wrote in message 
> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only javascript 
>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the page, 
>> view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for "search 
>> by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about javascript. 
>> But if you search for javascript, it is associated with the google stuff.
>>
>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It 
>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup 
>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or perhaps 
>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
>>
>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I 
>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of 
>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this practice is 
>> a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
>>
>> DavidF
>>
>> "Panos"  wrote in message 
>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help again...
>>>
>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum i 
>>> find
>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is 
>>> Javascript
>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny the
>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option 
>>> "enable
>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is that 
>>> in
>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only 
>>> those
>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the javascript 
>>> from
>>> the links??
>>>
>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
>>>
>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by 
>>> country "
>>> above the map..
>>>
>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
>>>
>>>
>>> Panos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change too.

Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out - 
especially with that strange music blasting.



-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






"DavidF"  wrote in message 
news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Rob,
>
> I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it the 
> first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now that XP 
> isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I do 
> like it...
>
> I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. It 
> took me a while to sort out, but if you go to http://www.europe-hotels.gr/ 
> that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by Country 
> link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and City 
> links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active links 
> now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on the 
> maps.
>
> In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as to how 
> to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over the 
> map that there are links that will search the different cities and the 
> different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what to do 
> once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole process, 
> and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page, and 
> the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not sure 
> what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he needs 
> to add directions. My two cents worth...
>
> DavidF
>
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
>> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
>>
>> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
>>
>> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no search 
>> as it suggests)
>> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to be a 
>> link.
>>
>> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is REALLY 
>> annoying.
>>
>> This is different than it  was this morning.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Rob Giordano
>> Microsoft MVP Expression
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "DavidF"  wrote in message 
>> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only javascript 
>>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the 
>>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for 
>>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about 
>>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated with the 
>>> google stuff.
>>>
>>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It 
>>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup 
>>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or perhaps 
>>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
>>>
>>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I 
>>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of 
>>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this practice 
>>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> DavidF
>>>
>>> "Panos"  wrote in message 
>>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help again...
>>>>
>>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum i 
>>>> find
>>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is 
>>>> Javascript
>>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny the
>>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option 
>>>> "enable
>>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is 
>>>> that in
>>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only 
>>>> those
>>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the javascript 
>>>> from
>>>> the links??
>>>>
>>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
>>>>
>>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by 
>>>> country "
>>>> above the map..
>>>>
>>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Panos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Dear David, Rob,

First of all thank you for the time you spending looking my site and your 
suggestions, i agree with you and i will process in the following changes:

1) i will remove the "search by city" button from the city page
2) i will remove the "search by country" button in the country page

i am thinking to  remove the huge text at the bottom of the first page but 
the big disadvantage with that is that because i dont have any text in my 
first page, the search engines, would not catch my page when someone search 
for ex. Athens hotels ( because there will not be a text about Athens ) 
Also in keywords i cannot add all the cities i want because there are 
limitations in number of words. Any suggestion?

What do you think to keep the video in the "search by country" page without 
the music? do you think is it nice? or better to remove it completely?

Again thanks a lot for your support
Panos


"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change too.
> 
> Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out - 
> especially with that strange music blasting.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Rob Giordano
> Microsoft MVP Expression
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "DavidF"  wrote in message 
> news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it the 
> > first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now that XP 
> > isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I do 
> > like it...
> >
> > I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. It 
> > took me a while to sort out, but if you go to http://www.europe-hotels.gr/ 
> > that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by Country 
> > link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and City 
> > links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active links 
> > now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on the 
> > maps.
> >
> > In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as to how 
> > to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over the 
> > map that there are links that will search the different cities and the 
> > different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what to do 
> > once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole process, 
> > and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page, and 
> > the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not sure 
> > what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he needs 
> > to add directions. My two cents worth...
> >
> > DavidF
> >
> >
> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message 
> > news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
> >> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
> >>
> >> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
> >>
> >> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no search 
> >> as it suggests)
> >> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to be a 
> >> link.
> >>
> >> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is REALLY 
> >> annoying.
> >>
> >> This is different than it  was this morning.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Rob Giordano
> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message 
> >> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only javascript 
> >>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the 
> >>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for 
> >>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about 
> >>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated with the 
> >>> google stuff.
> >>>
> >>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It 
> >>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup 
> >>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or perhaps 
> >>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
> >>>
> >>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I 
> >>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of 
> >>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this practice 
> >>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
> >>>
> >>> DavidF
> >>>
> >>> "Panos"  wrote in message 
> >>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
> >>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help again...
> >>>>
> >>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum i 
> >>>> find
> >>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is 
> >>>> Javascript
> >>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny the
> >>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option 
> >>>> "enable
> >>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is 
> >>>> that in
> >>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only 
> >>>> those
> >>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the javascript 
> >>>> from
> >>>> the links??
> >>>>
> >>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
> >>>>
> >>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by 
> >>>> country "
> >>>> above the map..
> >>>>
> >>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Panos
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > 
>

Rob, can you also explain me what you mean" the search button positions 
change too" which buttons you mean? in which page?

Thanks
Panos


"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change too.
> 
> Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out - 
> especially with that strange music blasting.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Rob Giordano
> Microsoft MVP Expression
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "DavidF"  wrote in message 
> news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it the 
> > first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now that XP 
> > isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I do 
> > like it...
> >
> > I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. It 
> > took me a while to sort out, but if you go to http://www.europe-hotels.gr/ 
> > that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by Country 
> > link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and City 
> > links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active links 
> > now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on the 
> > maps.
> >
> > In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as to how 
> > to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over the 
> > map that there are links that will search the different cities and the 
> > different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what to do 
> > once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole process, 
> > and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page, and 
> > the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not sure 
> > what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he needs 
> > to add directions. My two cents worth...
> >
> > DavidF
> >
> >
> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message 
> > news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
> >> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
> >>
> >> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
> >>
> >> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no search 
> >> as it suggests)
> >> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to be a 
> >> link.
> >>
> >> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is REALLY 
> >> annoying.
> >>
> >> This is different than it  was this morning.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Rob Giordano
> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message 
> >> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only javascript 
> >>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the 
> >>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for 
> >>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about 
> >>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated with the 
> >>> google stuff.
> >>>
> >>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It 
> >>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup 
> >>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or perhaps 
> >>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
> >>>
> >>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I 
> >>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of 
> >>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this practice 
> >>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
> >>>
> >>> DavidF
> >>>
> >>> "Panos"  wrote in message 
> >>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
> >>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help again...
> >>>>
> >>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum i 
> >>>> find
> >>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is 
> >>>> Javascript
> >>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny the
> >>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option 
> >>>> "enable
> >>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is 
> >>>> that in
> >>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only 
> >>>> those
> >>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the javascript 
> >>>> from
> >>>> the links??
> >>>>
> >>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
> >>>>
> >>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by 
> >>>> country "
> >>>> above the map..
> >>>>
> >>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Panos
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > 
>

I think that removing the appropriate button makes sense....but perhaps 
there is a better way. I would add some text above the map that explains to 
the viewer how to use the map to search for hotels and the reason for the 
page. It is not clear what the viewer is supposed to do. Within that text 
you can give the people the option of searching by country or by city, and 
then provide the link to the appropriate map. I don't know exactly what I 
would do...I just think you need to work on making things more clear to the 
viewer.

It is up to you to decide what to do about the keywords and the list of 
cities. I only offered an observation, and a thought about how this might be 
the reason you were being penalized. I am not an SEO expert.

The page loads very slowly. I am not a fan of music on a web page in 
general. I think that you would alienate more people than attract. They 
don't come to that page to listen to music...or even to watch a slide 
show...they want to search for a hotel. I personally like clean fast loading 
pages without a lot of bells and whistles. Ask yourself if adding a design 
element will contribute to the goal and reason for that page, or is a 
distraction. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. 
But, once again, this is your site, not mine.

DavidF

"Panos"  wrote in message 
news:0ABCC44B-7C1B-424A-9DF3-A7B4F8625454@microsoft.com...
> Dear David, Rob,
>
> First of all thank you for the time you spending looking my site and your
> suggestions, i agree with you and i will process in the following changes:
>
> 1) i will remove the "search by city" button from the city page
> 2) i will remove the "search by country" button in the country page
>
> i am thinking to  remove the huge text at the bottom of the first page but
> the big disadvantage with that is that because i dont have any text in my
> first page, the search engines, would not catch my page when someone 
> search
> for ex. Athens hotels ( because there will not be a text about Athens )
> Also in keywords i cannot add all the cities i want because there are
> limitations in number of words. Any suggestion?
>
> What do you think to keep the video in the "search by country" page 
> without
> the music? do you think is it nice? or better to remove it completely?
>
> Again thanks a lot for your support
> Panos
>
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
>
>> Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change too.
>>
>> Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out -
>> especially with that strange music blasting.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Rob Giordano
>> Microsoft MVP Expression
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "DavidF"  wrote in message
>> news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi Rob,
>> >
>> > I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it the
>> > first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now that 
>> > XP
>> > isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I do
>> > like it...
>> >
>> > I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. It
>> > took me a while to sort out, but if you go to 
>> > http://www.europe-hotels.gr/
>> > that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by 
>> > Country
>> > link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and 
>> > City
>> > links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active 
>> > links
>> > now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on the
>> > maps.
>> >
>> > In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as to 
>> > how
>> > to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over the
>> > map that there are links that will search the different cities and the
>> > different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what to 
>> > do
>> > once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole 
>> > process,
>> > and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page, 
>> > and
>> > the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not sure
>> > what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he 
>> > needs
>> > to add directions. My two cents worth...
>> >
>> > DavidF
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in 
>> > message
>> > news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
>> >> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
>> >>
>> >> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
>> >>
>> >> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no 
>> >> search
>> >> as it suggests)
>> >> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to be 
>> >> a
>> >> link.
>> >>
>> >> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is REALLY
>> >> annoying.
>> >>
>> >> This is different than it  was this morning.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- 
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> Rob Giordano
>> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
>> >> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only 
>> >>> javascript
>> >>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the
>> >>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for
>> >>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about
>> >>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated with 
>> >>> the
>> >>> google stuff.
>> >>>
>> >>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It
>> >>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup
>> >>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or 
>> >>> perhaps
>> >>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I
>> >>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of
>> >>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this 
>> >>> practice
>> >>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
>> >>>
>> >>> DavidF
>> >>>
>> >>> "Panos"  wrote in message
>> >>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
>> >>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help 
>> >>>> again...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum 
>> >>>> i
>> >>>> find
>> >>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is
>> >>>> Javascript
>> >>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny 
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option
>> >>>> "enable
>> >>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is
>> >>>> that in
>> >>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only
>> >>>> those
>> >>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the 
>> >>>> javascript
>> >>>> from
>> >>>> the links??
>> >>>>
>> >>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by
>> >>>> country "
>> >>>> above the map..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Panos
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>

Keywords are not as important as they used to be, meaningful text content is 
what you want.

As far as the video goes, just don't make it auto-play (sorry I don't know 
how to do this but I'm sure you can)



-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






"Panos"  wrote in message 
news:0ABCC44B-7C1B-424A-9DF3-A7B4F8625454@microsoft.com...
> Dear David, Rob,
>
> First of all thank you for the time you spending looking my site and your
> suggestions, i agree with you and i will process in the following changes:
>
> 1) i will remove the "search by city" button from the city page
> 2) i will remove the "search by country" button in the country page
>
> i am thinking to  remove the huge text at the bottom of the first page but
> the big disadvantage with that is that because i dont have any text in my
> first page, the search engines, would not catch my page when someone 
> search
> for ex. Athens hotels ( because there will not be a text about Athens )
> Also in keywords i cannot add all the cities i want because there are
> limitations in number of words. Any suggestion?
>
> What do you think to keep the video in the "search by country" page 
> without
> the music? do you think is it nice? or better to remove it completely?
>
> Again thanks a lot for your support
> Panos
>
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
>
>> Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change too.
>>
>> Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out -
>> especially with that strange music blasting.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Rob Giordano
>> Microsoft MVP Expression
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "DavidF"  wrote in message
>> news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi Rob,
>> >
>> > I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it the
>> > first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now that 
>> > XP
>> > isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I do
>> > like it...
>> >
>> > I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. It
>> > took me a while to sort out, but if you go to 
>> > http://www.europe-hotels.gr/
>> > that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by 
>> > Country
>> > link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and 
>> > City
>> > links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active 
>> > links
>> > now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on the
>> > maps.
>> >
>> > In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as to 
>> > how
>> > to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over the
>> > map that there are links that will search the different cities and the
>> > different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what to 
>> > do
>> > once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole 
>> > process,
>> > and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page, 
>> > and
>> > the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not sure
>> > what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he 
>> > needs
>> > to add directions. My two cents worth...
>> >
>> > DavidF
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in 
>> > message
>> > news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
>> >> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
>> >>
>> >> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
>> >>
>> >> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no 
>> >> search
>> >> as it suggests)
>> >> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to be 
>> >> a
>> >> link.
>> >>
>> >> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is REALLY
>> >> annoying.
>> >>
>> >> This is different than it  was this morning.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- 
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> Rob Giordano
>> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
>> >> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only 
>> >>> javascript
>> >>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the
>> >>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for
>> >>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about
>> >>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated with 
>> >>> the
>> >>> google stuff.
>> >>>
>> >>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It
>> >>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup
>> >>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or 
>> >>> perhaps
>> >>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I
>> >>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of
>> >>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this 
>> >>> practice
>> >>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
>> >>>
>> >>> DavidF
>> >>>
>> >>> "Panos"  wrote in message
>> >>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
>> >>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help 
>> >>>> again...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum 
>> >>>> i
>> >>>> find
>> >>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is
>> >>>> Javascript
>> >>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny 
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option
>> >>>> "enable
>> >>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is
>> >>>> that in
>> >>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only
>> >>>> those
>> >>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the 
>> >>>> javascript
>> >>>> from
>> >>>> the links??
>> >>>>
>> >>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by
>> >>>> country "
>> >>>> above the map..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Panos
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>

Yah... if you click on Search by Country (on the left) and are taken to that 
page then the Search by Country switches positions with Search by City so 
it's now on the right.

It'd be much better if it was just one button that toggled the 
searches...but really it's NOT a search. When I pushed the Search xxx button 
I was expecting a regular search box to open - Maybe it should be a Display 
Cities / Country button?

Another thing that was confusing to me - because those little red  dots on 
the map are animated I was trying to select them to be taken to those pages 
but the red dots are not part of the hyperlink. Personally, I'd not use 
animated dots anyway, but at least make the dots part of the hyperlink.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






"Panos"  wrote in message 
news:09189C12-AAA3-4320-A69E-2693A9B31DEC@microsoft.com...
> Rob, can you also explain me what you mean" the search button positions
> change too" which buttons you mean? in which page?
>
> Thanks
> Panos
>
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
>
>> Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change too.
>>
>> Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out -
>> especially with that strange music blasting.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Rob Giordano
>> Microsoft MVP Expression
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "DavidF"  wrote in message
>> news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi Rob,
>> >
>> > I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it the
>> > first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now that 
>> > XP
>> > isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I do
>> > like it...
>> >
>> > I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. It
>> > took me a while to sort out, but if you go to 
>> > http://www.europe-hotels.gr/
>> > that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by 
>> > Country
>> > link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and 
>> > City
>> > links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active 
>> > links
>> > now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on the
>> > maps.
>> >
>> > In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as to 
>> > how
>> > to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over the
>> > map that there are links that will search the different cities and the
>> > different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what to 
>> > do
>> > once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole 
>> > process,
>> > and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page, 
>> > and
>> > the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not sure
>> > what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he 
>> > needs
>> > to add directions. My two cents worth...
>> >
>> > DavidF
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in 
>> > message
>> > news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
>> >> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
>> >>
>> >> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
>> >>
>> >> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no 
>> >> search
>> >> as it suggests)
>> >> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to be 
>> >> a
>> >> link.
>> >>
>> >> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is REALLY
>> >> annoying.
>> >>
>> >> This is different than it  was this morning.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- 
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> Rob Giordano
>> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
>> >> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only 
>> >>> javascript
>> >>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the
>> >>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for
>> >>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about
>> >>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated with 
>> >>> the
>> >>> google stuff.
>> >>>
>> >>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It
>> >>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup
>> >>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or 
>> >>> perhaps
>> >>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I
>> >>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of
>> >>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this 
>> >>> practice
>> >>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
>> >>>
>> >>> DavidF
>> >>>
>> >>> "Panos"  wrote in message
>> >>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
>> >>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help 
>> >>>> again...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum 
>> >>>> i
>> >>>> find
>> >>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is
>> >>>> Javascript
>> >>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny 
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option
>> >>>> "enable
>> >>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is
>> >>>> that in
>> >>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only
>> >>>> those
>> >>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the 
>> >>>> javascript
>> >>>> from
>> >>>> the links??
>> >>>>
>> >>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by
>> >>>> country "
>> >>>> above the map..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Panos
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>

I make some tests with adding only one button above the map, but the true is 
that i didnt like much because it was not symetric..I decided another option 
to keep both buttons, and activate only the one in each page and keep the 
other coloured ( like it is selected ). I also change the text like you 
suggested Rob, "display cities" and " display countries"

I also remove the huge text at the bottom of the page and replace it with 
something that will look more natural to the Google.

I also remove the video in the " by country page" as you mentioned, it was 
true that it was too much, and also i notice that it caused some problems in 
the whole page.

The only small problem i have now is that in the "by country page" at the 
bottom text box i get all the text in bold but in the publisher file all the 
text are selected like regular ( not bold ). I suppose that happen because 
the above links " hotels in london, hotels in paris etc. " are placed with 
html code fragment and i have choose the text to be bold, so maybe the bold 
color remain and at the textbox in the bottom of the page. Do you know how i 
can remove it?





"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> Yah... if you click on Search by Country (on the left) and are taken to that 
> page then the Search by Country switches positions with Search by City so 
> it's now on the right.
> 
> It'd be much better if it was just one button that toggled the 
> searches...but really it's NOT a search. When I pushed the Search xxx button 
> I was expecting a regular search box to open - Maybe it should be a Display 
> Cities / Country button?
> 
> Another thing that was confusing to me - because those little red  dots on 
> the map are animated I was trying to select them to be taken to those pages 
> but the red dots are not part of the hyperlink. Personally, I'd not use 
> animated dots anyway, but at least make the dots part of the hyperlink.
> 
> -- 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Rob Giordano
> Microsoft MVP Expression
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Panos"  wrote in message 
> news:09189C12-AAA3-4320-A69E-2693A9B31DEC@microsoft.com...
> > Rob, can you also explain me what you mean" the search button positions
> > change too" which buttons you mean? in which page?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Panos
> >
> >
> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> >
> >> Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change too.
> >>
> >> Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out -
> >> especially with that strange music blasting.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Rob Giordano
> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
> >> news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi Rob,
> >> >
> >> > I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it the
> >> > first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now that 
> >> > XP
> >> > isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I do
> >> > like it...
> >> >
> >> > I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. It
> >> > took me a while to sort out, but if you go to 
> >> > http://www.europe-hotels.gr/
> >> > that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by 
> >> > Country
> >> > link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and 
> >> > City
> >> > links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active 
> >> > links
> >> > now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on the
> >> > maps.
> >> >
> >> > In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as to 
> >> > how
> >> > to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over the
> >> > map that there are links that will search the different cities and the
> >> > different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what to 
> >> > do
> >> > once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole 
> >> > process,
> >> > and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page, 
> >> > and
> >> > the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not sure
> >> > what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he 
> >> > needs
> >> > to add directions. My two cents worth...
> >> >
> >> > DavidF
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in 
> >> > message
> >> > news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
> >> >> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
> >> >>
> >> >> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
> >> >>
> >> >> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no 
> >> >> search
> >> >> as it suggests)
> >> >> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to be 
> >> >> a
> >> >> link.
> >> >>
> >> >> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is REALLY
> >> >> annoying.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is different than it  was this morning.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> >> Rob Giordano
> >> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
> >> >> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only 
> >> >>> javascript
> >> >>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open the
> >> >>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look for
> >> >>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about
> >> >>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated with 
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> google stuff.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. It
> >> >>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. Ungroup
> >> >>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or 
> >> >>> perhaps
> >> >>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I
> >> >>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list of
> >> >>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this 
> >> >>> practice
> >> >>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> DavidF
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Panos"  wrote in message
> >> >>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
> >> >>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help 
> >> >>>> again...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's forum 
> >> >>>> i
> >> >>>> find
> >> >>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is
> >> >>>> Javascript
> >> >>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny 
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the option
> >> >>>> "enable
> >> >>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange is
> >> >>>> that in
> >> >>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, only
> >> >>>> those
> >> >>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the 
> >> >>>> javascript
> >> >>>> from
> >> >>>> the links??
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search by
> >> >>>> country "
> >> >>>> above the map..
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Panos
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 
>

Online that very bottom textbox that begins with "EUROPE-HOTELS.GR..." is 
not displaying here as Bold. Try refreshing your browser F5. Also that 
textbox has been converted to an image so it won't show up in Google.

The Display Countries Display Cities seems better...at least to me :-)



-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






"Panos"  wrote in message 
news:CEBEEEE1-62F3-4628-A45F-A3E2D67282D6@microsoft.com...
> I make some tests with adding only one button above the map, but the true 
> is
> that i didnt like much because it was not symetric..I decided another 
> option
> to keep both buttons, and activate only the one in each page and keep the
> other coloured ( like it is selected ). I also change the text like you
> suggested Rob, "display cities" and " display countries"
>
> I also remove the huge text at the bottom of the page and replace it with
> something that will look more natural to the Google.
>
> I also remove the video in the " by country page" as you mentioned, it was
> true that it was too much, and also i notice that it caused some problems 
> in
> the whole page.
>
> The only small problem i have now is that in the "by country page" at the
> bottom text box i get all the text in bold but in the publisher file all 
> the
> text are selected like regular ( not bold ). I suppose that happen because
> the above links " hotels in london, hotels in paris etc. " are placed with
> html code fragment and i have choose the text to be bold, so maybe the 
> bold
> color remain and at the textbox in the bottom of the page. Do you know how 
> i
> can remove it?
>
>
>
>
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
>
>> Yah... if you click on Search by Country (on the left) and are taken to 
>> that
>> page then the Search by Country switches positions with Search by City so
>> it's now on the right.
>>
>> It'd be much better if it was just one button that toggled the
>> searches...but really it's NOT a search. When I pushed the Search xxx 
>> button
>> I was expecting a regular search box to open - Maybe it should be a 
>> Display
>> Cities / Country button?
>>
>> Another thing that was confusing to me - because those little red  dots 
>> on
>> the map are animated I was trying to select them to be taken to those 
>> pages
>> but the red dots are not part of the hyperlink. Personally, I'd not use
>> animated dots anyway, but at least make the dots part of the hyperlink.
>>
>> -- 
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Rob Giordano
>> Microsoft MVP Expression
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Panos"  wrote in message
>> news:09189C12-AAA3-4320-A69E-2693A9B31DEC@microsoft.com...
>> > Rob, can you also explain me what you mean" the search button positions
>> > change too" which buttons you mean? in which page?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Panos
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change 
>> >> too.
>> >>
>> >> Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out -
>> >> especially with that strange music blasting.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- 
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> Rob Giordano
>> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
>> >> news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hi Rob,
>> >> >
>> >> > I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it 
>> >> > the
>> >> > first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now 
>> >> > that
>> >> > XP
>> >> > isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I 
>> >> > do
>> >> > like it...
>> >> >
>> >> > I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. 
>> >> > It
>> >> > took me a while to sort out, but if you go to
>> >> > http://www.europe-hotels.gr/
>> >> > that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by
>> >> > Country
>> >> > link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and
>> >> > City
>> >> > links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active
>> >> > links
>> >> > now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on 
>> >> > the
>> >> > maps.
>> >> >
>> >> > In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as 
>> >> > to
>> >> > how
>> >> > to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over 
>> >> > the
>> >> > map that there are links that will search the different cities and 
>> >> > the
>> >> > different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what 
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole
>> >> > process,
>> >> > and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page,
>> >> > and
>> >> > the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not 
>> >> > sure
>> >> > what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he
>> >> > needs
>> >> > to add directions. My two cents worth...
>> >> >
>> >> > DavidF
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
>> >> > message
>> >> > news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
>> >> >>
>> >> >> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no
>> >> >> search
>> >> >> as it suggests)
>> >> >> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to 
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> link.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is 
>> >> >> REALLY
>> >> >> annoying.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is different than it  was this morning.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- 
>> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> >> Rob Giordano
>> >> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
>> >> >> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only
>> >> >>> javascript
>> >> >>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open 
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look 
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about
>> >> >>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated 
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> google stuff.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. 
>> >> >>> It
>> >> >>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. 
>> >> >>> Ungroup
>> >> >>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or
>> >> >>> perhaps
>> >> >>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I
>> >> >>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list 
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this
>> >> >>> practice
>> >> >>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> DavidF
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Panos"  wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help
>> >> >>>> again...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's 
>> >> >>>> forum
>> >> >>>> i
>> >> >>>> find
>> >> >>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is
>> >> >>>> Javascript
>> >> >>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the 
>> >> >>>> option
>> >> >>>> "enable
>> >> >>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange 
>> >> >>>> is
>> >> >>>> that in
>> >> >>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, 
>> >> >>>> only
>> >> >>>> those
>> >> >>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the
>> >> >>>> javascript
>> >> >>>> from
>> >> >>>> the links??
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search 
>> >> >>>> by
>> >> >>>> country "
>> >> >>>> above the map..
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Panos
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>

In Firefox its diplayed like an image but in IE7 its correct displayed like 
text. Do you know why that happen and what i can do ? 

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> Online that very bottom textbox that begins with "EUROPE-HOTELS.GR..." is 
> not displaying here as Bold. Try refreshing your browser F5. Also that 
> textbox has been converted to an image so it won't show up in Google.
> 
> The Display Countries Display Cities seems better...at least to me :-)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Rob Giordano
> Microsoft MVP Expression
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Panos"  wrote in message 
> news:CEBEEEE1-62F3-4628-A45F-A3E2D67282D6@microsoft.com...
> > I make some tests with adding only one button above the map, but the true 
> > is
> > that i didnt like much because it was not symetric..I decided another 
> > option
> > to keep both buttons, and activate only the one in each page and keep the
> > other coloured ( like it is selected ). I also change the text like you
> > suggested Rob, "display cities" and " display countries"
> >
> > I also remove the huge text at the bottom of the page and replace it with
> > something that will look more natural to the Google.
> >
> > I also remove the video in the " by country page" as you mentioned, it was
> > true that it was too much, and also i notice that it caused some problems 
> > in
> > the whole page.
> >
> > The only small problem i have now is that in the "by country page" at the
> > bottom text box i get all the text in bold but in the publisher file all 
> > the
> > text are selected like regular ( not bold ). I suppose that happen because
> > the above links " hotels in london, hotels in paris etc. " are placed with
> > html code fragment and i have choose the text to be bold, so maybe the 
> > bold
> > color remain and at the textbox in the bottom of the page. Do you know how 
> > i
> > can remove it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> >
> >> Yah... if you click on Search by Country (on the left) and are taken to 
> >> that
> >> page then the Search by Country switches positions with Search by City so
> >> it's now on the right.
> >>
> >> It'd be much better if it was just one button that toggled the
> >> searches...but really it's NOT a search. When I pushed the Search xxx 
> >> button
> >> I was expecting a regular search box to open - Maybe it should be a 
> >> Display
> >> Cities / Country button?
> >>
> >> Another thing that was confusing to me - because those little red  dots 
> >> on
> >> the map are animated I was trying to select them to be taken to those 
> >> pages
> >> but the red dots are not part of the hyperlink. Personally, I'd not use
> >> animated dots anyway, but at least make the dots part of the hyperlink.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Rob Giordano
> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Panos"  wrote in message
> >> news:09189C12-AAA3-4320-A69E-2693A9B31DEC@microsoft.com...
> >> > Rob, can you also explain me what you mean" the search button positions
> >> > change too" which buttons you mean? in which page?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Panos
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change 
> >> >> too.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out -
> >> >> especially with that strange music blasting.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> >> Rob Giordano
> >> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
> >> >> news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Hi Rob,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it 
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now 
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > XP
> >> >> > isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I 
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > like it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. 
> >> >> > It
> >> >> > took me a while to sort out, but if you go to
> >> >> > http://www.europe-hotels.gr/
> >> >> > that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by
> >> >> > Country
> >> >> > link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and
> >> >> > City
> >> >> > links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active
> >> >> > links
> >> >> > now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on 
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > maps.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as 
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > how
> >> >> > to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over 
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > map that there are links that will search the different cities and 
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what 
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole
> >> >> > process,
> >> >> > and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page,
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not 
> >> >> > sure
> >> >> > what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he
> >> >> > needs
> >> >> > to add directions. My two cents worth...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > DavidF
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> > message
> >> >> > news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no
> >> >> >> search
> >> >> >> as it suggests)
> >> >> >> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to 
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> link.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is 
> >> >> >> REALLY
> >> >> >> annoying.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This is different than it  was this morning.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -- 
> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> >> >> Rob Giordano
> >> >> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only
> >> >> >>> javascript
> >> >> >>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open 
> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look 
> >> >> >>> for
> >> >> >>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about
> >> >> >>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated 
> >> >> >>> with
> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >>> google stuff.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. 
> >> >> >>> It
> >> >> >>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. 
> >> >> >>> Ungroup
> >> >> >>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or
> >> >> >>> perhaps
> >> >> >>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I
> >> >> >>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list 
> >> >> >>> of
> >> >> >>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this
> >> >> >>> practice
> >> >> >>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> DavidF
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> "Panos"  wrote in message
> >> >> >>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help
> >> >> >>>> again...
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's 
> >> >> >>>> forum
> >> >> >>>> i
> >> >> >>>> find
> >> >> >>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is
> >> >> >>>> Javascript
> >> >> >>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny
> >> >> >>>> the
> >> >> >>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the 
> >> >> >>>> option
> >> >> >>>> "enable
> >> >> >>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange 
> >> >> >>>> is
> >> >> >>>> that in
> >> >> >>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, 
> >> >> >>>> only
> >> >> >>>> those
> >> >> >>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the
> >> >> >>>> javascript
> >> >> >>>> from
> >> >> >>>> the links??
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search 
> >> >> >>>> by
> >> >> >>>> country "
> >> >> >>>> above the map..
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Panos
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> 
>

Ok i fix it by adding the outline of the box in different box

"Panos" wrote:

> In Firefox its diplayed like an image but in IE7 its correct displayed like 
> text. Do you know why that happen and what i can do ? 
> 
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> 
> > Online that very bottom textbox that begins with "EUROPE-HOTELS.GR..." is 
> > not displaying here as Bold. Try refreshing your browser F5. Also that 
> > textbox has been converted to an image so it won't show up in Google.
> > 
> > The Display Countries Display Cities seems better...at least to me :-)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Rob Giordano
> > Microsoft MVP Expression
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Panos"  wrote in message 
> > news:CEBEEEE1-62F3-4628-A45F-A3E2D67282D6@microsoft.com...
> > > I make some tests with adding only one button above the map, but the true 
> > > is
> > > that i didnt like much because it was not symetric..I decided another 
> > > option
> > > to keep both buttons, and activate only the one in each page and keep the
> > > other coloured ( like it is selected ). I also change the text like you
> > > suggested Rob, "display cities" and " display countries"
> > >
> > > I also remove the huge text at the bottom of the page and replace it with
> > > something that will look more natural to the Google.
> > >
> > > I also remove the video in the " by country page" as you mentioned, it was
> > > true that it was too much, and also i notice that it caused some problems 
> > > in
> > > the whole page.
> > >
> > > The only small problem i have now is that in the "by country page" at the
> > > bottom text box i get all the text in bold but in the publisher file all 
> > > the
> > > text are selected like regular ( not bold ). I suppose that happen because
> > > the above links " hotels in london, hotels in paris etc. " are placed with
> > > html code fragment and i have choose the text to be bold, so maybe the 
> > > bold
> > > color remain and at the textbox in the bottom of the page. Do you know how 
> > > i
> > > can remove it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yah... if you click on Search by Country (on the left) and are taken to 
> > >> that
> > >> page then the Search by Country switches positions with Search by City so
> > >> it's now on the right.
> > >>
> > >> It'd be much better if it was just one button that toggled the
> > >> searches...but really it's NOT a search. When I pushed the Search xxx 
> > >> button
> > >> I was expecting a regular search box to open - Maybe it should be a 
> > >> Display
> > >> Cities / Country button?
> > >>
> > >> Another thing that was confusing to me - because those little red  dots 
> > >> on
> > >> the map are animated I was trying to select them to be taken to those 
> > >> pages
> > >> but the red dots are not part of the hyperlink. Personally, I'd not use
> > >> animated dots anyway, but at least make the dots part of the hyperlink.
> > >>
> > >> -- 
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> Rob Giordano
> > >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Panos"  wrote in message
> > >> news:09189C12-AAA3-4320-A69E-2693A9B31DEC@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Rob, can you also explain me what you mean" the search button positions
> > >> > change too" which buttons you mean? in which page?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> > Panos
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Ack! You're right about that, and the search button positions change 
> > >> >> too.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Sorry Panos, but that is totally goofy! No one will figure that out -
> > >> >> especially with that strange music blasting.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -- 
> > >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> >> Rob Giordano
> > >> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
> > >> >> news:eudNOKK4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >> >> > Hi Rob,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I guess I am going to have to install IE7 again. I didn't like it 
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > first time I used it, but there won't be any new users of IE6 now 
> > >> >> > that
> > >> >> > XP
> > >> >> > isn't available anymore. I did install the new version of FF, and I 
> > >> >> > do
> > >> >> > like it...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I think you discovered an overall navigation problem with the site. 
> > >> >> > It
> > >> >> > took me a while to sort out, but if you go to
> > >> >> > http://www.europe-hotels.gr/
> > >> >> > that page displays a map with cities. If you click the Search by
> > >> >> > Country
> > >> >> > link, it displays a page with a map with countries. The Country and
> > >> >> > City
> > >> >> > links are deactivated on their corresponding pages, but the active
> > >> >> > links
> > >> >> > now work in FF3 and IE6. The actual "search" is from the links on 
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > maps.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > In my opinion, Panos needs to add some directions above each map as 
> > >> >> > to
> > >> >> > how
> > >> >> > to "search" the cities...or the countries. I know from mousing over 
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > map that there are links that will search the different cities and 
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > different countries, but many viewers will get confused as to what 
> > >> >> > to
> > >> >> > do
> > >> >> > once they find the map. Panos needs to better explain the whole
> > >> >> > process,
> > >> >> > and possible remove the link to the City page when on the city page,
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > the link to the Country page when on the country page.... I am not 
> > >> >> > sure
> > >> >> > what exactly he should do, but right now it is too confusing and he
> > >> >> > needs
> > >> >> > to add directions. My two cents worth...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > DavidF
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> > >> >> > message
> > >> >> > news:1048D46E-D639-4A50-8B17-4E8EA1B1FB50@microsoft.com...
> > >> >> >> IE7,  FF2, Safari 2
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> home page behaves identically in all three browsers:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> The Search by Country is active but just reloads the same page (no
> > >> >> >> search
> > >> >> >> as it suggests)
> > >> >> >> The Search by City is dead, doesn't do anything, does not appear to 
> > >> >> >> be
> > >> >> >> a
> > >> >> >> link.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> The auto-play audio from the video on the bottom of the page is 
> > >> >> >> REALLY
> > >> >> >> annoying.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> This is different than it  was this morning.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> -- 
> > >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> >> >> Rob Giordano
> > >> >> >> Microsoft MVP Expression
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> "DavidF"  wrote in message
> > >> >> >> news:#CpHIKH4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > >> >> >>> The two links you quoted are not javascript links. The only
> > >> >> >>> javascript
> > >> >> >>> you have on that page is associated with the google stuff. Open 
> > >> >> >>> the
> > >> >> >>> page, view the Source code, and then use the find feature to look 
> > >> >> >>> for
> > >> >> >>> "search by city", and you will see there is nothing in there about
> > >> >> >>> javascript. But if you search for javascript, it is associated 
> > >> >> >>> with
> > >> >> >>> the
> > >> >> >>> google stuff.
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> The links work ok in IE6 but not FF3.0. Rob might be running IE7. 
> > >> >> >>> It
> > >> >> >>> appears that the links have been converted to an image in FF. 
> > >> >> >>> Ungroup
> > >> >> >>> them, or pull the text outside the "design" you have them in, or
> > >> >> >>> perhaps
> > >> >> >>> make sure that those designs don't overlap the map below it.
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Bye the way, you asked about being penalized by google before... I
> > >> >> >>> wouldn't be surprised if you were being docked for the huge list 
> > >> >> >>> of
> > >> >> >>> cities at the bottom of this page. I am pretty sure that this
> > >> >> >>> practice
> > >> >> >>> is a no no these days....but I could be wrong.
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> DavidF
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> "Panos"  wrote in message
> > >> >> >>> news:8FA7EA7D-9A59-4E34-9CCA-B4AAFB8D6242@microsoft.com...
> > >> >> >>>> Hello David, i am here again i think i need your valuable help
> > >> >> >>>> again...
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> So i had a problem in my website and with the help of Google's 
> > >> >> >>>> forum
> > >> >> >>>> i
> > >> >> >>>> find
> > >> >> >>>> out that in the main page of my website i have 2 links that is
> > >> >> >>>> Javascript
> > >> >> >>>> links ( i really dont know how i created these ). This links deny
> > >> >> >>>> the
> > >> >> >>>> Googlebot to catch my page. When i turned off in Firefox the 
> > >> >> >>>> option
> > >> >> >>>> "enable
> > >> >> >>>> javascript" i saw that i couldnt access these links. The strange 
> > >> >> >>>> is
> > >> >> >>>> that in
> > >> >> >>>> all my website i have many many links and eveything works fine, 
> > >> >> >>>> only
> > >> >> >>>> those
> > >> >> >>>> two links has this problem, do you know how can i remove the
> > >> >> >>>> javascript
> > >> >> >>>> from
> > >> >> >>>> the links??
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> URL: www.europe-hotels.gr
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> The problematic links are those " Search by city " and " Search 
> > >> >> >>>> by
> > >> >> >>>> country "
> > >> >> >>>> above the map..
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> Any reccomendation would be highly appreciate
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> Panos
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> 
> >