i hae the macros but need a bit of dummy publisher toolbar macro code macro-word-toolbar->alias as publisher toolbar template all i realy want is a macro give word macro template and use as publisher macro and or the ability to use word add ins as publisher addins atm its get special text generated by the addin to type some decrotive special font (ie Ancinet Egiptian etc.) rune font etc and a few other things Any how since the chairs are unicode txt and i hate 1000000+jhjmkkk etc its just eassier to use the toolbar ime , and the chair plus its roman counterpart . A="A font anchent symbol" etc E=M (runic e ) I=(I)(ISA) and you need the fonts. just i have tried to convert etc but no go and publisher is comm add ins i just want the word macro template s to run or be addable under publisher