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date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 03:25:00 -0800,    group: microsoft.public.producer        back       


Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
Hello
After I publish project with Microsoft producer it does work with internet 
Explorer 6 and 7,
but does a lot of problems by displaying the video and the slides and even 
getting black pages and so on.. with FireFox.
Can it be fixed somehow?

Thanks
date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 03:25:00 -0800   author:   מייק אלי @discussions.microsoft.com

Re: Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 03:25:00 -0800, ???? ??? wrote:

> Hello
> After I publish project with Microsoft producer it does work with internet 
> Explorer 6 and 7,
> but does a lot of problems by displaying the video and the slides and even 
> getting black pages and so on.. with FireFox.
> Can it be fixed somehow?
> 
> Thanks

What template(s) are you using?

As far as I know the output was only ever specifically aimed at Netscape 7
--  and even there it is pretty lame anyway. It was never aimed Firefoz so
it may have problems (as you seem to indicate). How did you get it to run
at all -- normally it will refuse to run.






-- 
Brian Sullivan
Courses by Wire (http://www.coursesbywire.com)
date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:49:23 -0500   author:   Brian Sullivan

Re: Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
"Brian Sullivan" wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 03:25:00 -0800, ???? ??? wrote:
> 
> > Hello
> > After I publish project with Microsoft producer it does work with internet 
> > Explorer 6 and 7,
> > but does a lot of problems by displaying the video and the slides and even 
> > getting black pages and so on.. with FireFox.
> > Can it be fixed somehow?
> > 
> > Thanks
> 
> What template(s) are you using?
> 
> As far as I know the output was only ever specifically aimed at Netscape 7
> --  and even there it is pretty lame anyway. It was never aimed Firefoz so
> it may have problems (as you seem to indicate). How did you get it to run
> at all -- normally it will refuse to run.
> Brian Sullivan
> Courses by Wire (http://www.coursesbywire.com)

Hi
I'm using Standard video (320 x 240) template with a resizable slides.
I'm running with IE but When I'm trying to run in with Firefox it display a 
Black page
How come there is no solution to see it with Firfox? as it's one of the 
pipular Browsers, is there any patches or something that I can still see fine 
with fIREfOX? I have a lot of Mac users and windows users who use FireFox and 
I want them to see my pages with the video and slides that I'v made,
hope there is any solution?
date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:06:00 -0800   author:   מייק אלי @discussions.microsoft.com

Re: Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:06:00 -0800, ???? ??? wrote:


> How come there is no solution to see it with Firfox? as it's one of the 
> pipular Browsers,


Producer was released in 2003 and has no update since -- Firefox I think
post dates that. Microsoft has since chosen to abandon Producer -- it is
not supported in PPT 2007 nor will another version be released.

> is there any patches or something that I can still see fine 
> with fIREfOX? 

You could play with the "caps" parameter (search in Producer help for
"caps"). I don't know if anything there will help.

When I try Firefox on the PC it gives an unsupported browser message --
other accommodations will probably have to be made as well.


> I have a lot of Mac users and windows users who use FireFox and 
> I want them to see my pages with the video and slides that I'v made,
> hope there is any solution?

I think on the Mac there is even less hope. I personally have purchased
Articulate -- it produces Flash output that does run on the Mac and non IE
browsers.


-- 
Brian Sullivan
Courses by Wire (http://www.coursesbywire.com)
date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:50:49 -0500   author:   Brian Sullivan

Re: Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
On Mar 4, 8:50 am, Brian Sullivan
 wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:06:00 -0800, ???? ??? wrote:
> > How come there is no solution to see it with Firfox? as it's one of the
> > pipular Browsers,
>
> Producer was released in 2003 and has no update since -- Firefox I think
> post dates that. Microsoft has since chosen to abandon Producer -- it is
> not supported in PPT 2007 nor will another version be released.
>
> > is there any patches or something that I can still see fine
> > with fIREfOX?
>
> You could play with the "caps" parameter (search in Producer help for
> "caps"). I don't know if anything there will help.
>
> When I try Firefox on the PC it gives an unsupported browser message --
> other accommodations will probably have to be made as well.
>
> > I have a lot of Mac users and windows users who use FireFox and
> > I want them to see my pages with the video and slides that I'v made,
> > hope there is any solution?
>
> I think on the Mac there is even less hope. I personally have purchased
> Articulate -- it produces Flash output that does run on the Mac and non IE
> browsers.
>
> --
> Brian Sullivan
> Courses by Wire (http://www.coursesbywire.com)

Yes, as Brian mentions Producer was last updated nearly 5 years ago,
so you're probably not going to have much luck supporting newer
browsers, operating systems, etc.

If you are interested, you can try a new product I recently released
called Presio (http://www.ipresent.net).  Presio allows you to record
audio or video and synchronize it with PowerPoint slides.  You can
also import existing media files and synchronize those with slides as
well.

Presio exports to Flash, Windows Media, Quicktime, and Video Podcast
(MP4) formats so your presentations support virtually all Browser and
Operating System combinations.  Presio also supports Windows XP and
Vista, as well as several version of PowerPoint (XP, 2003, and
2007).

Here are some examples of what published presentations look like using
Presio:
http://ipresent.net/Presio/examples.php

If you're interested you can download a free copy here:
http://ipresent.net/support/presio-download.php

Good luck.

Carmen-
--------------
iPresent Presio
http://www.ipresent.net
date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:37:57 -0800 (PST)   author:   Carmen Ferrara

Re: Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
"Carmen Ferrara" wrote:

> On Mar 4, 8:50 am, Brian Sullivan
>  wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:06:00 -0800, ???? ??? wrote:
> > > How come there is no solution to see it with Firfox? as it's one of the
> > > pipular Browsers,
> >
> > Producer was released in 2003 and has no update since -- Firefox I think
> > post dates that. Microsoft has since chosen to abandon Producer -- it is
> > not supported in PPT 2007 nor will another version be released.
> >
> > > is there any patches or something that I can still see fine
> > > with fIREfOX?
> >
> > You could play with the "caps" parameter (search in Producer help for
> > "caps"). I don't know if anything there will help.
> >
> > When I try Firefox on the PC it gives an unsupported browser message --
> > other accommodations will probably have to be made as well.
> >
> > > I have a lot of Mac users and windows users who use FireFox and
> > > I want them to see my pages with the video and slides that I'v made,
> > > hope there is any solution?
> >
> > I think on the Mac there is even less hope. I personally have purchased
> > Articulate -- it produces Flash output that does run on the Mac and non IE
> > browsers.
> >
> > --
> > Brian Sullivan
> > Courses by Wire (http://www.coursesbywire.com)
> 
> Yes, as Brian mentions Producer was last updated nearly 5 years ago,
> so you're probably not going to have much luck supporting newer
> browsers, operating systems, etc.
> 
> If you are interested, you can try a new product I recently released
> called Presio (http://www.ipresent.net).  Presio allows you to record
> audio or video and synchronize it with PowerPoint slides.  You can
> also import existing media files and synchronize those with slides as
> well.
> 
> Presio exports to Flash, Windows Media, Quicktime, and Video Podcast
> (MP4) formats so your presentations support virtually all Browser and
> Operating System combinations.  Presio also supports Windows XP and
> Vista, as well as several version of PowerPoint (XP, 2003, and
> 2007).
> 
> Here are some examples of what published presentations look like using
> Presio:
> http://ipresent.net/Presio/examples.php
> 
> If you're interested you can download a free copy here:
> http://ipresent.net/support/presio-download.php
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Carmen-
> --------------
> iPresent Presio
> http://www.ipresent.net
> 


OK I'll check it out
thanks a lot
date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:06:00 -0800   author:   mike eli

Re: Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
"Carmen Ferrara" wrote:

> On Mar 4, 8:50 am, Brian Sullivan
>  wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:06:00 -0800, ???? ??? wrote:
> > > How come there is no solution to see it with Firfox? as it's one of the
> > > pipular Browsers,
> >
> > Producer was released in 2003 and has no update since -- Firefox I think
> > post dates that. Microsoft has since chosen to abandon Producer -- it is
> > not supported in PPT 2007 nor will another version be released.
> >
> > > is there any patches or something that I can still see fine
> > > with fIREfOX?
> >
> > You could play with the "caps" parameter (search in Producer help for
> > "caps"). I don't know if anything there will help.
> >
> > When I try Firefox on the PC it gives an unsupported browser message --
> > other accommodations will probably have to be made as well.
> >
> > > I have a lot of Mac users and windows users who use FireFox and
> > > I want them to see my pages with the video and slides that I'v made,
> > > hope there is any solution?
> >
> > I think on the Mac there is even less hope. I personally have purchased
> > Articulate -- it produces Flash output that does run on the Mac and non IE
> > browsers.
> >
> > --
> > Brian Sullivan
> > Courses by Wire (http://www.coursesbywire.com)
> 
> Yes, as Brian mentions Producer was last updated nearly 5 years ago,
> so you're probably not going to have much luck supporting newer
> browsers, operating systems, etc.
> 
> If you are interested, you can try a new product I recently released
> called Presio (http://www.ipresent.net).  Presio allows you to record
> audio or video and synchronize it with PowerPoint slides.  You can
> also import existing media files and synchronize those with slides as
> well.
> 
> Presio exports to Flash, Windows Media, Quicktime, and Video Podcast
> (MP4) formats so your presentations support virtually all Browser and
> Operating System combinations.  Presio also supports Windows XP and
> Vista, as well as several version of PowerPoint (XP, 2003, and
> 2007).
> 
> Here are some examples of what published presentations look like using
> Presio:
> http://ipresent.net/Presio/examples.php
> 
> If you're interested you can download a free copy here:
> http://ipresent.net/support/presio-download.php
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Carmen-
> --------------
> iPresent Presio
> http://www.ipresent.net
> 

Hi  again
I was just looking and exploring your program
It seems very cool.
But I have some questions.
Does it support some media server if so which one?
We use microsoft media server to run the video streaming better - 1) because 
we have a lot of users who can watch the presentations and 2) we can move the 
index of the video streaming forward and save time. 
Does your program support that ? is there any flash server which does that 
maybe?
date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 03:53:01 -0700   author:   mike eli

Re: Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
On Mar 9, 6:53 am, mike eli  wrote:
> "Carmen Ferrara" wrote:
> > On Mar 4, 8:50 am, Brian Sullivan
> >  wrote:
> > > On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:06:00 -0800, ???? ??? wrote:
> > > > How come there is no solution to see it with Firfox? as it's one of the
> > > > pipular Browsers,
>
> > > Producer was released in 2003 and has no update since -- Firefox I think
> > > post dates that. Microsoft has since chosen to abandon Producer -- it is
> > > not supported in PPT 2007 nor will another version be released.
>
> > > > is there any patches or something that I can still see fine
> > > > with fIREfOX?
>
> > > You could play with the "caps" parameter (search in Producer help for
> > > "caps"). I don't know if anything there will help.
>
> > > When I try Firefox on the PC it gives an unsupported browser message --
> > > other accommodations will probably have to be made as well.
>
> > > > I have a lot of Mac users and windows users who use FireFox and
> > > > I want them to see my pages with the video and slides that I'v made,
> > > > hope there is any solution?
>
> > > I think on the Mac there is even less hope. I personally have purchased
> > > Articulate -- it produces Flash output that does run on the Mac and non IE
> > > browsers.
>
> > > --
> > > Brian Sullivan
> > > Courses by Wire (http://www.coursesbywire.com)
>
> > Yes, as Brian mentions Producer was last updated nearly 5 years ago,
> > so you're probably not going to have much luck supporting newer
> > browsers, operating systems, etc.
>
> > If you are interested, you can try a new product I recently released
> > called Presio (http://www.ipresent.net).  Presio allows you to record
> > audio or video and synchronize it with PowerPoint slides.  You can
> > also import existing media files and synchronize those with slides as
> > well.
>
> > Presio exports to Flash, Windows Media, Quicktime, and Video Podcast
> > (MP4) formats so your presentations support virtually all Browser and
> > Operating System combinations.  Presio also supports Windows XP and
> > Vista, as well as several version of PowerPoint (XP, 2003, and
> > 2007).
>
> > Here are some examples of what published presentations look like using
> > Presio:
> >http://ipresent.net/Presio/examples.php
>
> > If you're interested you can download a free copy here:
> >http://ipresent.net/support/presio-download.php
>
> > Good luck.
>
> > Carmen-
> > --------------
> > iPresent Presio
> >http://www.ipresent.net
>


Hi Mike,

Thanks for taking a look at Presio.  Answers below - also if you have
any other questions or comments just let me know.

> Hi  again
> I was just looking and exploring your program
> It seems very cool.
> But I have some questions.
> Does it support some media server if so which one?

Yes, for windows media content, published presentations can be set to
to stream from a streaming server via the mms:// protocol.  However,
to enable this you need to take a few steps:

1. Within Presio Publish your presentation to the Windows Media format
2. Open the folder where the Presio presentation published to (Presio
publishes all the files necessary for web playback to a single
directory that you specify on the Publish tab, there are no sub-
folders)
3. FTP/copy the published .wmv or .wma file to your streaming server
4. Edit a file named 'WM_functions.js' and change one line to point to
the location of the media file - eg. mms://yourserver.com/folder/pres_title/1.wmv
5. Copy the remaining published files (html, slides, images, etc) to
your web server

That's it.  Your presentation will playback through the web and the
media file will be streamed via your streaming server, instead of
progressively downloaded, had you just FTP'd all the published files
directly to your web server.

> We use microsoft media server to run the video streaming better - 1) because
> we have a lot of users who can watch the presentations and 2) we can move the
> index of the video streaming forward and save time.

Yes, absolutely.  For windows media content, using a streaming server
is a great way to go.  Follow the steps I mention above and you
everything should work well.  I may try to automate the process in a
future release (maybe click a checkbox that says "Publish to Windows
Media files to:' or something like that - if folks find it useful.
Right now, the manual process outlined needs to be used.

> Does your program support that ? is there any flash server which does that
> maybe?

As for Flash streaming - it would the exact same way.  Just change one
config file named 'SWF_functions.js' to point to your FLV streaming
server and publish the other files to you web server.  As for an Flash
streaming server - take a look at this Red5 - http://osflash.org/red5

It is a very popular and robust on-demand FLV and MP3 as well live
streaming server.  It works quite well and is open source.

Thanks.
Carmen-
date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:36:08 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Carmen Ferrara

Re: Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
On Mar 9, 6:53 am, mike eli  wrote:
> "Carmen Ferrara" wrote:
> > On Mar 4, 8:50 am, Brian Sullivan
> >  wrote:
> > > On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:06:00 -0800, ???? ??? wrote:
> > > > How come there is no solution to see it with Firfox? as it's one of the
> > > > pipular Browsers,
>
> > > Producer was released in 2003 and has no update since -- Firefox I think
> > > post dates that. Microsoft has since chosen to abandon Producer -- it is
> > > not supported in PPT 2007 nor will another version be released.
>
> > > > is there any patches or something that I can still see fine
> > > > with fIREfOX?
>
> > > You could play with the "caps" parameter (search in Producer help for
> > > "caps"). I don't know if anything there will help.
>
> > > When I try Firefox on the PC it gives an unsupported browser message --
> > > other accommodations will probably have to be made as well.
>
> > > > I have a lot of Mac users and windows users who use FireFox and
> > > > I want them to see my pages with the video and slides that I'v made,
> > > > hope there is any solution?
>
> > > I think on the Mac there is even less hope. I personally have purchased
> > > Articulate -- it produces Flash output that does run on the Mac and non IE
> > > browsers.
>
> > > --
> > > Brian Sullivan
> > > Courses by Wire (http://www.coursesbywire.com)
>
> > Yes, as Brian mentions Producer was last updated nearly 5 years ago,
> > so you're probably not going to have much luck supporting newer
> > browsers, operating systems, etc.
>
> > If you are interested, you can try a new product I recently released
> > called Presio (http://www.ipresent.net).  Presio allows you to record
> > audio or video and synchronize it with PowerPoint slides.  You can
> > also import existing media files and synchronize those with slides as
> > well.
>
> > Presio exports to Flash, Windows Media, Quicktime, and Video Podcast
> > (MP4) formats so your presentations support virtually all Browser and
> > Operating System combinations.  Presio also supports Windows XP and
> > Vista, as well as several version of PowerPoint (XP, 2003, and
> > 2007).
>
> > Here are some examples of what published presentations look like using
> > Presio:
> >http://ipresent.net/Presio/examples.php
>
> > If you're interested you can download a free copy here:
> >http://ipresent.net/support/presio-download.php
>
> > Good luck.
>
> > Carmen-
> > --------------
> > iPresent Presio
> >http://www.ipresent.net
>
> Hi  again
> I was just looking and exploring your program
> It seems very cool.

Thanks for taking a look at Presio.  Answers below - also if you have
any other questions or comments just let me know.


> But I have some questions.
> Does it support some media server if so which one?

Yes, for windows media content, published presentations can be set to
stream from a streaming server via the mms:// protocol.  However,
to enable this you need to take a few steps:

1. Within Presio - Publish your presentation to the Windows Media
format
2. Open the folder where the Presio presentation published to (Presio
publishes all the files necessary for web playback to a single
directory that you specify on the Publish tab, there are no sub-
folders to worry about)
3. FTP/copy the published .wmv or .wma file to your streaming server
4. Edit the file named 'WM_functions.js' and change one line to point
to
the location of the media file - eg. mms://yourserver.com/folder/pres_title/1.wmv
5. Copy the remaining published files (html, slides, images, etc) to
your web server

That's it.  Your presentation will playback through the web and the
media file will be streamed via your streaming server, instead of
progressively downloaded, had you just FTP'd all the published files
directly to your web server.


> We use microsoft media server to run the video streaming better - 1) because
> we have a lot of users who can watch the presentations and 2) we can move the
> index of the video streaming forward and save time.
> Does your program support that ?

Yes, absolutely.  For windows media content, using a streaming server
is a great way to go.  There are many benefits such as the ones you
mention.
Just, follow the steps I outlined above and everything should work
fine.

I may try to automate the process in a future release (maybe click a
checkbox
that says "Publish Windows Media files to:' or something like that -
if folks
find it useful.  Right now, the manual process outlined above needs to
be used.

is there any flash server which does that
> maybe?

To support Flash streaming in Presio - it would work the exact same
way.  Just
change one config file named 'SWF_functions.js' to point to your FLV
streaming
server and publish the other files to your web server.

As for a Flash streaming server - take a look at Red5 - http://osflash.org/red5
It is a very popular and robust on-demand FLV and MP3 streaming
server.  It
does live streaming too.  It works quite well and is open source.

Thanks.
Carmen-
date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:45:54 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Carmen Ferrara

Re: Cannot see publish forms (with video+slides) in FireFox   
On Mar 9, 6:53 am, mike eli  wrote:
> "Carmen Ferrara" wrote:
> > On Mar 4, 8:50 am, Brian Sullivan
> >  wrote:
> > > On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:06:00 -0800, ???? ??? wrote:
> > > > How come there is no solution to see it with Firfox? as it's one of the
> > > > pipular Browsers,
>
> > > Producer was released in 2003 and has no update since -- Firefox I think
> > > post dates that. Microsoft has since chosen to abandon Producer -- it is
> > > not supported in PPT 2007 nor will another version be released.
>
> > > > is there any patches or something that I can still see fine
> > > > with fIREfOX?
>
> > > You could play with the "caps" parameter (search in Producer help for
> > > "caps"). I don't know if anything there will help.
>
> > > When I try Firefox on the PC it gives an unsupported browser message --
> > > other accommodations will probably have to be made as well.
>
> > > > I have a lot of Mac users and windows users who use FireFox and
> > > > I want them to see my pages with the video and slides that I'v made,
> > > > hope there is any solution?
>
> > > I think on the Mac there is even less hope. I personally have purchased
> > > Articulate -- it produces Flash output that does run on the Mac and non IE
> > > browsers.
>
> > > --
> > > Brian Sullivan
> > > Courses by Wire (http://www.coursesbywire.com)
>
> > Yes, as Brian mentions Producer was last updated nearly 5 years ago,
> > so you're probably not going to have much luck supporting newer
> > browsers, operating systems, etc.
>
> > If you are interested, you can try a new product I recently released
> > called Presio (http://www.ipresent.net).  Presio allows you to record
> > audio or video and synchronize it with PowerPoint slides.  You can
> > also import existing media files and synchronize those with slides as
> > well.
>
> > Presio exports to Flash, Windows Media, Quicktime, and Video Podcast
> > (MP4) formats so your presentations support virtually all Browser and
> > Operating System combinations.  Presio also supports Windows XP and
> > Vista, as well as several version of PowerPoint (XP, 2003, and
> 2007).
>
> > Here are some examples of what published presentations look like using
> > Presio:
> >http://ipresent.net/Presio/examples.php
>
> > If you're interested you can download a free copy here:
> >http://ipresent.net/support/presio-download.php
>
> > Good luck.
>
> > Carmen-
> > --------------
> > iPresent Presio
> >http://www.ipresent.net
>
> Hi  again
> I was just looking and exploring your program
> It seems very cool.

Hi Mike,

Thanks for taking a look at Presio.  Answers below - also if you have
any other questions or comments just let me know.

> But I have some questions.
> Does it support some media server if so which one?

Yes, for windows media content, published presentations can be set to
stream from a streaming server via the mms:// protocol.  However, to
enable this you need to take a few steps:

1. Within Presio - Publish your presentation to the Windows Media
format
2. Open the folder where the Presio presentation published to (Presio
publishes all the files necessary for web playback to a single
directory that you specify on the Publish tab, there are no sub-
folders to worry about)
3. FTP/copy the published .wmv or .wma file to your streaming server
4. Edit the file named 'WM_functions.js' and change one line to point
to the location of the media file - eg. mms://yourserver.com/folder/pres_title/1.wmv
5. Copy the remaining published files (html, slides, images, etc) to
your web server

That's it.  Your presentation will playback through the web and the
media file will be streamed via your streaming server, instead of
progressively downloaded, had you just FTP'd all the published files
directly to your web server.


> We use microsoft media server to run the video streaming better - 1) because
> we have a lot of users who can watch the presentations and 2) we can move the
> index of the video streaming forward and save time.
> Does your program support that ?

Yes, absolutely.  For windows media content, using a streaming server
is a great way to go.  There are many benefits such as the ones you've
mentioned.  Just, follow the steps I outlined above and everything
should work fine.

I may try to automate the process in a future release (maybe click a
checkbox that says "Publish Windows Media files to:' or something like
that - if folks find it useful.  Right now, the manual process
outlined above needs to be used.

> is there any flash server which does that
> maybe?

Yes, to support Flash streaming in Presio - it would work the exact
same way.  Just change one config file named 'SWF_functions.js' to
point to your FLV streaming server and publish the other files to your
web server.

As for a Flash streaming server - take a look at Red5
http://osflash.org/red5

It is a very popular and robust on-demand FLV and MP3 streaming
server.  It does live streaming too.  It works quite well and is open
source.

Thanks.
Carmen-
date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:53:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Carmen Ferrara

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