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date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:17:00 -0700 (PDT),    group: microsoft.public.outlook.program_forms        back       


Task Form: Unlock/clone/copy first page, or where to get prebuilt custom form?   
I want a custom task form which closely resembles the standard task
form, but has some fields replaced by user-defined fields. As probably
everyone here knows, the first page is locked and can only be hidden,
not customized.

So here are my questions:

(1) Is there a way to unlock the first page? (From what I've read here
so far, no.)
(2) If not, is there a way to clone/copy the first page and have the
copy editable?
(3) If not, is there a (fully editable) custom task form out there
that's as identical to the standard one as possible which would save
me the hassle to rebuild a nearly identical form?

I don't know much about forms so far, and it would be a great help to
find one of the above solutions.

Oh, and:
(4) If not, is it even possible to rebuild the first page with allmost
all the same fields?

This is for Outlook 2003.

TIA
Alex
date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:17:00 -0700 (PDT)   author:   alexw

RE: Task Form: Unlock/clone/copy first page, or where to get prebuilt   
1, 2) No.
3) None that I know of.
4) Not with Outlook 2003. You can do it or come pretty close with a form 
region in Outlook 2007. 

See http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=60 for more on task forms. 
-- 
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
   Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
      for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
      http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx



"alexw" wrote:

> I want a custom task form which closely resembles the standard task
> form, but has some fields replaced by user-defined fields. As probably
> everyone here knows, the first page is locked and can only be hidden,
> not customized.
> 
> So here are my questions:
> 
> (1) Is there a way to unlock the first page? (From what I've read here
> so far, no.)
> (2) If not, is there a way to clone/copy the first page and have the
> copy editable?
> (3) If not, is there a (fully editable) custom task form out there
> that's as identical to the standard one as possible which would save
> me the hassle to rebuild a nearly identical form?
> 
> I don't know much about forms so far, and it would be a great help to
> find one of the above solutions.
> 
> Oh, and:
> (4) If not, is it even possible to rebuild the first page with allmost
> all the same fields?
> 
> This is for Outlook 2003.
date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 05:05:03 -0700   author:   Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]

Re: Task Form: Unlock/clone/copy first page, or where to get prebuilt   
On Jul 2, 2:05 pm, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] 
wrote:

> 4) Not with Outlook 2003. You can do it or come pretty close with a form
> region in Outlook 2007.
>
> Seehttp://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=60for more on task forms.

Sue, thank you.

I was afraid to get that answer.
For (4), I understand that the problem is the date picker.
I could live without it (barely use it anyway) as long as I can type
in a date (German localized format, preferrably).
But I'm afraid that natural language entry ("tomorrow", "in one week"
etc.) won't work, either.
And are there other elements that are impossible to rebuild?

And while I'm at it: A while ago, I bought your book (the old, OL 2002
edition of "Outlook Programming"). I remember having seen some
information/update about the differences that came with OL 2003. I
can't find it anymore. Could I get a pointer?

--
Alex
date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:14:51 -0700 (PDT)   author:   alexw

Re: Task Form: Unlock/clone/copy first page, or where to get prebu   
Other things that would be hard, if not impossible,  to duplicate -- the 
reminder sound popup and the checkboxes for assigned task options. 

The main change for Outlook 2003 is how security is handled; see 
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=55
-- 
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
   Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
      for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
      http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx



"alexw" wrote:

> On Jul 2, 2:05 pm, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] 
> wrote:
> 
> > 4) Not with Outlook 2003. You can do it or come pretty close with a form
> > region in Outlook 2007.
> >
> > See http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=60 for more on task forms.
> 
> Sue, thank you.
> 
> I was afraid to get that answer.
> For (4), I understand that the problem is the date picker.
> I could live without it (barely use it anyway) as long as I can type
> in a date (German localized format, preferrably).
> But I'm afraid that natural language entry ("tomorrow", "in one week"
> etc.) won't work, either.
> And are there other elements that are impossible to rebuild?
> 
> And while I'm at it: A while ago, I bought your book (the old, OL 2002
> edition of "Outlook Programming"). I remember having seen some
> information/update about the differences that came with OL 2003. I
> can't find it anymore. Could I get a pointer?
date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:38:02 -0700   author:   Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]

Re: Task Form: Unlock/clone/copy first page, or where to get prebu   
Sue, thanks again.

What about the natural language entry for dates ("tomorrow", "in one
week" etc.)?
On second reading the article(s) on your site, I think I got it wrong
the first time.
Looks like it will work on all date entry fields. Am I right? Will it
work on a localized system with the foreign language's expressions?

I don't need reminders or checkboxes for assigned task options.

--
Alex
date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:30:16 -0700 (PDT)   author:   alexw

Re: Task Form: Unlock/clone/copy first page, or where to get prebu   
I have no experience with natural language entry in non-English systems. I 
would expect it to work, though. You might want to ask in one of the general 
Outlook usage newsgroups, such as microsoft.public.outlook.general.
-- 
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
   Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
      for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
      http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"alexw" wrote:

> What about the natural language entry for dates ("tomorrow", "in one
> week" etc.)?
> On second reading the article(s) on your site, I think I got it wrong
> the first time.
> Looks like it will work on all date entry fields. Am I right? Will it
> work on a localized system with the foreign language's expressions?
date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:43:04 -0700   author:   Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]

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