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date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:08:44 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.access.macros        back       


My form won't open since I created a macro   
Hi:
I created a macro (based on one that worked perfectly in Word) and set it to
run in Access when a particular field was filled in....or so I thought.

I can no longer open the form.

Is there a way to stop all macros/modules from operating in a form so I can
open it.

This is the first time I have attempted using macros in an Access database
and am very new to coding.

Is my form a lost cause?  I have put so many hours into it, I hate to have
to start over.

Thank you in advance for any assistance offered.

Linda
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:08:44 -0700   author:   Morgaine

Re: My form won't open since I created a macro   
Linda,

First of all, the woird "macro" in Access referes to a completely 
different entity than macro in Word.  It sounds like you are referring 
to a VBA procedure rather than a macro.

Do you mean you are not even able to open the form in Design view?  What 
exactly happens when you try?

-- 
Steve Schapel, Microsoft Access MVP


Morgaine wrote:
> Hi:
> I created a macro (based on one that worked perfectly in Word) and set it to
> run in Access when a particular field was filled in....or so I thought.
> 
> I can no longer open the form.
> 
> Is there a way to stop all macros/modules from operating in a form so I can
> open it.
> 
> This is the first time I have attempted using macros in an Access database
> and am very new to coding.
> 
> Is my form a lost cause?  I have put so many hours into it, I hate to have
> to start over.
> 
> Thank you in advance for any assistance offered.
> 
> Linda
> 
>
date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:30:28 +1200   author:   Steve Schapel

Re: My form won't open since I created a macro   
Hi Steve:
Sorry for the delay in responding. I hope you see this.

I open the database and under the FORM section, I click on the name of the
form and nothing happens.  It won't allow me to even change it to design
view.  I have tried everyway I can think of to open it...right click open,
double click, use the open icon...it doesn absolutely nothing except
highlights.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Linda


"Steve Schapel"  wrote in message
news:ufhrEcFEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Linda,
>
> First of all, the woird "macro" in Access referes to a completely
> different entity than macro in Word.  It sounds like you are referring
> to a VBA procedure rather than a macro.
>
> Do you mean you are not even able to open the form in Design view?  What
> exactly happens when you try?
>
> --
> Steve Schapel, Microsoft Access MVP
>
>
> Morgaine wrote:
> > Hi:
> > I created a macro (based on one that worked perfectly in Word) and set
it to
> > run in Access when a particular field was filled in....or so I thought.
> >
> > I can no longer open the form.
> >
> > Is there a way to stop all macros/modules from operating in a form so I
can
> > open it.
> >
> > This is the first time I have attempted using macros in an Access
database
> > and am very new to coding.
> >
> > Is my form a lost cause?  I have put so many hours into it, I hate to
have
> > to start over.
> >
> > Thank you in advance for any assistance offered.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:39:11 -0700   author:   Morgaine

Re: My form won't open since I created a macro   
Linda,

I am sorry for the delay in getting back to you here.  And I am sorry to 
say that I don't know what the problem is, it is not a normal thing to 
happen.  Perhaps some corruption in your database project.  It sounds to 
me like you need to investigate it by checking the form in a backup copy 
of the database, or create a new database and try importing the form 
into it.  Or else delete the form, copmpact/repair tha database, and 
then re-build the form from scratch.

Let us know if you need any help with any of these ideas.

-- 
Steve Schapel, Microsoft Access MVP

Morgaine wrote:
> Hi Steve:
> Sorry for the delay in responding. I hope you see this.
> 
> I open the database and under the FORM section, I click on the name of the
> form and nothing happens.  It won't allow me to even change it to design
> view.  I have tried everyway I can think of to open it...right click open,
> double click, use the open icon...it doesn absolutely nothing except
> highlights.
>
date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:28:30 +1200   author:   Steve Schapel

Re: My form won't open since I created a macro   
Steve:

I will try what you suggest. At this point I think it would be fastest to
reconstruct the form.  I think I must have corrupted the file when I cut and
pasted the Word macro into Access.

Is it possible to have Access automatically populate fields?  For example, I
want to have the date entered in a field on the form automatically populate
12 fields below it by month.  If 5/2/08 was entered in the inital field,
then May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December,
January, February, March, April  would be automatically populated in the 12
field below.?

I do not know Visual Basic yet.  A VB course is on my upcoming agenda.  I am
great at cutting and pasting code though. :)

Thank you for your input.

Linda




"Steve Schapel"  wrote in message
news:Ooh4USEFJHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Linda,
>
> I am sorry for the delay in getting back to you here.  And I am sorry to
> say that I don't know what the problem is, it is not a normal thing to
> happen.  Perhaps some corruption in your database project.  It sounds to
> me like you need to investigate it by checking the form in a backup copy
> of the database, or create a new database and try importing the form
> into it.  Or else delete the form, copmpact/repair tha database, and
> then re-build the form from scratch.
>
> Let us know if you need any help with any of these ideas.
>
> --
> Steve Schapel, Microsoft Access MVP
>
> Morgaine wrote:
> > Hi Steve:
> > Sorry for the delay in responding. I hope you see this.
> >
> > I open the database and under the FORM section, I click on the name of
the
> > form and nothing happens.  It won't allow me to even change it to design
> > view.  I have tried everyway I can think of to open it...right click
open,
> > double click, use the open icon...it doesn absolutely nothing except
> > highlights.
> >
date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:32:58 -0700   author:   Morgaine

Re: My form won't open since I created a macro   
Linda,

Are you talking about entering this data in the same field in 12 
records, or do you literally mean you have 12 separate fields in each 
record?

Warning: If it's the latter, I will almost certainly be telling you it 
is an invalid database design! :-)

By the way, in the interests of clarity of communication, note that 
forms do not have fields.  Fields are in tables or queries.  And the 
data stored in those fields can be accessed via *controls* on forms or 
reports.

-- 
Steve Schapel, Microsoft Access MVP

Morgaine wrote:
> Steve:
> 
> I will try what you suggest. At this point I think it would be fastest to
> reconstruct the form.  I think I must have corrupted the file when I cut and
> pasted the Word macro into Access.
> 
> Is it possible to have Access automatically populate fields?  For example, I
> want to have the date entered in a field on the form automatically populate
> 12 fields below it by month.  If 5/2/08 was entered in the inital field,
> then May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December,
> January, February, March, April  would be automatically populated in the 12
> field below.?
> 
> I do not know Visual Basic yet.  A VB course is on my upcoming agenda.  I am
> great at cutting and pasting code though. :)
> 
> Thank you for your input.
date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:19:57 +1200   author:   Steve Schapel

Re: My form won't open since I created a macro   
Hi Steve:

I was going to have 12 fields per record in the table and 12 cooresponding
controls on my form.  The idea was that the "Initial" entry would populate
the data into the twelve field in the table and show on the form.  It is for
a dialysis unit where there are monthly, semi-annual, and annual reports
due, all starting from each individual's admission date.  So Month 1 for
each person may be different.  If I am understanding you correctly, this
can't be done with a data base form.  I have attached a couple of graphics
(if the newsgroup will allow it) in case I am not explaining it clearly.

Linda

"Steve Schapel"  wrote in message
news:edQuwZIFJHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Linda,
>
> Are you talking about entering this data in the same field in 12
> records, or do you literally mean you have 12 separate fields in each
> record?
>
> Warning: If it's the latter, I will almost certainly be telling you it
> is an invalid database design! :-)
>
> By the way, in the interests of clarity of communication, note that
> forms do not have fields.  Fields are in tables or queries.  And the
> data stored in those fields can be accessed via *controls* on forms or
> reports.
>
> --
> Steve Schapel, Microsoft Access MVP
>
> Morgaine wrote:
> > Steve:
> >
> > I will try what you suggest. At this point I think it would be fastest
to
> > reconstruct the form.  I think I must have corrupted the file when I cut
and
> > pasted the Word macro into Access.
> >
> > Is it possible to have Access automatically populate fields?  For
example, I
> > want to have the date entered in a field on the form automatically
populate
> > 12 fields below it by month.  If 5/2/08 was entered in the inital field,
> > then May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December,
> > January, February, March, April  would be automatically populated in the
12
> > field below.?
> >
> > I do not know Visual Basic yet.  A VB course is on my upcoming agenda.
I am
> > great at cutting and pasting code though. :)
> >
> > Thank you for your input.
date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:41:44 -0700   author:   Morgaine

Re: My form won't open since I created a macro   
Linda,

Well, it's not exactly that it *can't* be done.  Just that it 
*shouldn't*.  It's the kind of thing you would see in a spreadsheet and 
stuff like that.  But in a database such a design is called 
un-normalised.  In a databse, we would recognise that there is a 
one-to-many relationship between the entity of the person, and the 
entity of whatever is represented by the M1-M12 fields, and as such 
needs a separate related table.  As for the presentation of this data on 
a form, the standard approach would be a main form for the data on the 
"one" side (i.e. person specific) and a continuous view subform based on 
the "many" side table(s).

Hope you understand.

-- 
Steve Schapel, Microsoft Access MVP

Morgaine wrote:
> Hi Steve:
> 
> I was going to have 12 fields per record in the table and 12 cooresponding
> controls on my form.  The idea was that the "Initial" entry would populate
> the data into the twelve field in the table and show on the form.  It is for
> a dialysis unit where there are monthly, semi-annual, and annual reports
> due, all starting from each individual's admission date.  So Month 1 for
> each person may be different.  If I am understanding you correctly, this
> can't be done with a data base form.  I have attached a couple of graphics
> (if the newsgroup will allow it) in case I am not explaining it clearly.
>
date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:27:21 +1200   author:   Steve Schapel

Re: My form won't open since I created a macro   
I think I understand.  The patient would have a one-to-one relationship with
his name, his medical record number, his birthdate, his admission date and
his discharge date.   Month 1 would have a one-to-one relationship with  the
different due dates for that month only.  Month 2 would have a one-to-one
relationship with the due dates entered for that second month only, etc.  So
there would have to be a table for the patient, another table for Month 1,
another table for Month 2, etc.

It seems then that an Excel spreadsheet might be more appropriate.  I was
hoping to do queries and create reports from the data which is why I thought
of Access.  Plus I never learned Excel. Perhaps it is time that I did.

Thank you, Steve for your time and consideration of my proposed project.  I
appreciate your help.

"Steve Schapel"  wrote in message
news:OdjrhzwFJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Linda,
>
> Well, it's not exactly that it *can't* be done.  Just that it
> *shouldn't*.  It's the kind of thing you would see in a spreadsheet and
> stuff like that.  But in a database such a design is called
> un-normalised.  In a databse, we would recognise that there is a
> one-to-many relationship between the entity of the person, and the
> entity of whatever is represented by the M1-M12 fields, and as such
> needs a separate related table.  As for the presentation of this data on
> a form, the standard approach would be a main form for the data on the
> "one" side (i.e. person specific) and a continuous view subform based on
> the "many" side table(s).
>
> Hope you understand.
>
> --
> Steve Schapel, Microsoft Access MVP
>
> Morgaine wrote:
> > Hi Steve:
> >
> > I was going to have 12 fields per record in the table and 12
cooresponding
> > controls on my form.  The idea was that the "Initial" entry would
populate
> > the data into the twelve field in the table and show on the form.  It is
for
> > a dialysis unit where there are monthly, semi-annual, and annual reports
> > due, all starting from each individual's admission date.  So Month 1 for
> > each person may be different.  If I am understanding you correctly, this
> > can't be done with a data base form.  I have attached a couple of
graphics
> > (if the newsgroup will allow it) in case I am not explaining it clearly.
> >
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:59:01 -0700   author:   Morgaine

Re: My form won't open since I created a macro   
Linda,

No.  You would not have a separate tabgle for each month.  I am not able 
to comment explicitly, since I have no details at all about the data you 
are working with, or the place occupied in the grand scheme of things by 
these dates you are referring to.  But I can absolutely say for definite 
sure that you will not have a separate table for each month.

If you would care to explain the purpose of the data, and the meaning in 
particular of the dates, I would be happy to explore further with you.

-- 
Steve Schapel, Microsoft Access MVP

Morgaine wrote:
> I think I understand.  The patient would have a one-to-one relationship with
> his name, his medical record number, his birthdate, his admission date and
> his discharge date.   Month 1 would have a one-to-one relationship with  the
> different due dates for that month only.  Month 2 would have a one-to-one
> relationship with the due dates entered for that second month only, etc.  So
> there would have to be a table for the patient, another table for Month 1,
> another table for Month 2, etc.
> 
> It seems then that an Excel spreadsheet might be more appropriate.  I was
> hoping to do queries and create reports from the data which is why I thought
> of Access.  Plus I never learned Excel. Perhaps it is time that I did.
> 
> Thank you, Steve for your time and consideration of my proposed project.  I
> appreciate your help.
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:10:06 +1200   author:   Steve Schapel

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