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date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:42:01 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.excel.misc        back       


Report Format - Pivot Table not working   
I have this report of raw data, I would love to put the data into a pivot 
table as its the best way to present. Problem is that the source data 
precalulates the higher levels of the hiearachy in the raw data so in a pivot 
table 

Ex: Director, team manager and team employees give combined $1000
---------Team mananager gives combined $700 between self and team 
-------------Team members give $500 total

So instead of drilling down
Director          1,000
              Manager 700
                       team 500

I get 
Director         2200
            Manager 1200
                       team 500

Been trying to manipulate the raw data this way and that  to get it to work, 
any thoughts on how to get the data into pivot without all the new 
calculations? Or any other format thoughts?

I just really like the drill down option, I have 5000 employees to show 
detail on
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:42:01 -0700   author:   Melissa

Re: Report Format - Pivot Table not working   
Melissa wrote:
> I have this report of raw data, I would love to put the data into a pivot 
> table as its the best way to present. Problem is that the source data 
> precalulates the higher levels of the hiearachy in the raw data so in a pivot 
> table 
> 
> Ex: Director, team manager and team employees give combined $1000
> ---------Team mananager gives combined $700 between self and team 
> -------------Team members give $500 total
> 
> So instead of drilling down
> Director          1,000
>               Manager 700
>                        team 500
> 
> I get 
> Director         2200
>             Manager 1200
>                        team 500
> 
> Been trying to manipulate the raw data this way and that  to get it to work, 
> any thoughts on how to get the data into pivot without all the new 
> calculations? Or any other format thoughts?
> 
> I just really like the drill down option, I have 5000 employees to show 
> detail on

Hi Melissa,

I get the gist of the problem -- precalculated (aggregated) amounts in 
the source data can make it tricky to do accurate pivots.

Would you provide a few rows of representative source data?
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:58:50 -0400   author:   smartin

Re: Report Format - Pivot Table not working   
Here is few lines of data

Last Name       Relative level         Sup last name          Credit issued  
      Center   
Smith                   0                         Penn                     
1,000,000            WA
Jones                   1                         Smith                     
500,000              CHA
Oswald                 2                        Jones                      
200,000             CHA
Clark                    2                         Jones                     
200,000             CHA
Cortes                  3                         Clark                      
10,000              CHA

So for Smith a total of $1 million was given as credit, total of his credits 
plus his direct report Jones. Jones gave $500,000 between credits issued by 
him and his direct reports Oswald and Clark, and so on. This is just a sample 
of the data (trying not to give to much away online since it is 
confidential). I have been trying to manipulate the raw data to assist with 
the pivot table but just cant get it to go, I tried breaking down each person 
by the center they report to, re-organizing the hiearchy piece.

"smartin" wrote:

> Melissa wrote:
> > I have this report of raw data, I would love to put the data into a pivot 
> > table as its the best way to present. Problem is that the source data 
> > precalulates the higher levels of the hiearachy in the raw data so in a pivot 
> > table 
> > 
> > Ex: Director, team manager and team employees give combined $1000
> > ---------Team mananager gives combined $700 between self and team 
> > -------------Team members give $500 total
> > 
> > So instead of drilling down
> > Director          1,000
> >               Manager 700
> >                        team 500
> > 
> > I get 
> > Director         2200
> >             Manager 1200
> >                        team 500
> > 
> > Been trying to manipulate the raw data this way and that  to get it to work, 
> > any thoughts on how to get the data into pivot without all the new 
> > calculations? Or any other format thoughts?
> > 
> > I just really like the drill down option, I have 5000 employees to show 
> > detail on
> 
> Hi Melissa,
> 
> I get the gist of the problem -- precalculated (aggregated) amounts in 
> the source data can make it tricky to do accurate pivots.
> 
> Would you provide a few rows of representative source data?
>
date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:16:01 -0700   author:   Melissa

Re: Report Format - Pivot Table not working   
Hi Melissa

Does it help if you insert another column in your source data just titled 
"Level"
Copy the values from Relative level to this column.

In the PT
drag Relative Level to the row area, followed by last Name
drag Level to the Column Area
drag Credit to the Data area

Double click on Relative Level>Subtotals>none  Advanced>Sort order>Ascending
Double click on Last name>Subtotals>None
Double Click on Level>Advanced>Sort order>Ascending

Double click on each item in Relative level to Group all the data to a 
single value for that level
You will now get a cascading effect of the Totals at each Level

If you double click on any Relative level, you will get a drill down showing 
the contribution of each person to that level.

If that doesn't provide sufficient for you, then introduce 4 more columns to 
your source table, title Level0, Level1, Level2, and level3
In the Level0 column, copy a 0 down the whole of the range.
In row 2 of Level 1 enter the formula
=IF($B2>=column(A1), column(a1),"")
Copy across through the columns containing Level2 and Level3
Copy all three formulae down through the extent of your data

Drag each of these new Levels to the page area of your PT.
Now you can select to see Just the Level0's or Just the Level 1's etc, by 
leaving the other page fields set to All, but selecting the Level required 
for any one of the others.

I hope this helps.

-- 
Regards
Roger Govier

"Melissa"  wrote in message 
news:F44F302F-45DF-4AD5-81C7-B57B0A4B5FD6@microsoft.com...
> Here is few lines of data
>
> Last Name       Relative level         Sup last name          Credit 
> issued
>      Center
> Smith                   0                         Penn
> 1,000,000            WA
> Jones                   1                         Smith
> 500,000              CHA
> Oswald                 2                        Jones
> 200,000             CHA
> Clark                    2                         Jones
> 200,000             CHA
> Cortes                  3                         Clark
> 10,000              CHA
>
> So for Smith a total of $1 million was given as credit, total of his 
> credits
> plus his direct report Jones. Jones gave $500,000 between credits issued 
> by
> him and his direct reports Oswald and Clark, and so on. This is just a 
> sample
> of the data (trying not to give to much away online since it is
> confidential). I have been trying to manipulate the raw data to assist 
> with
> the pivot table but just cant get it to go, I tried breaking down each 
> person
> by the center they report to, re-organizing the hiearchy piece.
>
> "smartin" wrote:
>
>> Melissa wrote:
>> > I have this report of raw data, I would love to put the data into a 
>> > pivot
>> > table as its the best way to present. Problem is that the source data
>> > precalulates the higher levels of the hiearachy in the raw data so in a 
>> > pivot
>> > table
>> >
>> > Ex: Director, team manager and team employees give combined $1000
>> > ---------Team mananager gives combined $700 between self and team
>> > -------------Team members give $500 total
>> >
>> > So instead of drilling down
>> > Director          1,000
>> >               Manager 700
>> >                        team 500
>> >
>> > I get
>> > Director         2200
>> >             Manager 1200
>> >                        team 500
>> >
>> > Been trying to manipulate the raw data this way and that  to get it to 
>> > work,
>> > any thoughts on how to get the data into pivot without all the new
>> > calculations? Or any other format thoughts?
>> >
>> > I just really like the drill down option, I have 5000 employees to show
>> > detail on
>>
>> Hi Melissa,
>>
>> I get the gist of the problem -- precalculated (aggregated) amounts in
>> the source data can make it tricky to do accurate pivots.
>>
>> Would you provide a few rows of representative source data?
>>
date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:17:21 +0100   author:   Roger Govier roger@technology4unospamdotcodotuk

Re: Report Format - Pivot Table not working   
Melissa wrote:
> Here is few lines of data
> 
> Last Name       Relative level         Sup last name          Credit issued  
>       Center   
> Smith                   0                         Penn                     
> 1,000,000            WA
> Jones                   1                         Smith                     
> 500,000              CHA
> Oswald                 2                        Jones                      
> 200,000             CHA
> Clark                    2                         Jones                     
> 200,000             CHA
> Cortes                  3                         Clark                      
> 10,000              CHA
> 
> So for Smith a total of $1 million was given as credit, total of his credits 
> plus his direct report Jones. Jones gave $500,000 between credits issued by 
> him and his direct reports Oswald and Clark, and so on. This is just a sample 
> of the data (trying not to give to much away online since it is 
> confidential). I have been trying to manipulate the raw data to assist with 
> the pivot table but just cant get it to go, I tried breaking down each person 
> by the center they report to, re-organizing the hiearchy piece.
> 

Hi Melissa,

This is an interesting case because of the recursive nature of the 
logic. I have been working at reverse-engineering your data to get 
amounts per person and have something that works...

I placed your sample data in A1:E6. In G1:I1 I placed values 2, 1, 0. 
These are your [Relative level] values, from [max - 1] to 0 (the order 
of these values does not matter).

Place in G2 and fill through G2:I6
=$D2-SUMPRODUCT(--($A2=$C$2:$C$7),($D$2:$D$7),--($B$2:$B$7=1+G$1))

The result per person is this formula in H2 (fill down):
=MIN(G2:I2)

What this does... well... ask if you would like an explanation.
date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:24:14 -0400   author:   smartin

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