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date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:07:12 -0700,
group: microsoft.public.word.web.authoring
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Re: How to prevent overwriting of simple HTML in Word
I downloaded NVU and tried it on a HTML file created by MS Word 2000. It
changed lines like
<p class=MsoNormal><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></p>
to
<p class="MsoNormal"><!--[if
!supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p></p>
Because there is no space following "<!--" these constructs show up in the
browser (IE 6). If the spaces had been present, would the construct work as
intended?
"PopS" wrote:
> NVU at nvu.com is an excellent tool for creating web
> pages and is similar enough to Word to use out of the
> box, but does have a learning curve. It's also free
> and open source. It's just been released after a long
> development cycle at 1.0.
>
>
> "lostinspace" wrote in
> message
> news:Kj3ve.5954$Y75.138@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Betty J" <>
> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.word.web.authoring
> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:07 PM
> > Subject: How to prevent overwriting of simple HTML in
> > Word
> >
> >
> >>I like using Word for developing web pages, but it
> >>seems that when I copy into Word some simple HTML
> >>commands from pages created with text/other HTML
> >>editors, Word changes the lines into more complicated
> >>info. This leads to unpredictable results at times
> >>when I display the pages in IE or AOL.
> >>
> >> Is there a way to prevent this? Thanks.
> >>
> >> BJ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > BJ,
> > If you manually edit html from Word created web
> > pages with a text editor?
> > That should be the end of your use of Word on that
> > completed HTML page.
> >
> > If you go back an edit the Word file and create a new
> > page than the text editor inserted changes will no
> > longer be active.
> >
> > There is no way to prevent this from within Words
> > settings.
> > You may reduce it (by changing the Word Web options
> > [see below], however never eliminate it.
> >
> > To access Word Web options:
> > Tools / General / Web Options / Files / untick the
> > following:
> >
> > Organize files in supporting Folder
> >
> > Update links on save
> >
> > Check if Word is default
> >
> > Tools / General / Web Options / Pictures /untick all
> >
> >
> > Word was NEVER intended to be used as a medium to
> > create web pages, rather a TRANSPORT medium to return
> > html formatted Word doc to their original state.
> > You'd best be advised to find a more effective tool
> > for creating web pages. The initial aggravation will
> > save you endless hours in attempting to understand
> > and correct inefficiencies in Word created HTML.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:02:04 -0700
author: Alan
Re: How to prevent overwriting of simple HTML in Word
Hi Alan,
Actually, you've hit on a serious issue with NVU that many people
are complaining about on their forums. If you'd like words from
the designer's mouths, I suggest their forums are good places to
go.
NVU has a very bad habit of reformatting the code. I don't
think I've seen anyone say it breaks the code, but it does look
pretty odd to them at first. The true value of NVU, IMO, is
using it as a turn-key design tool. I don't like writing in XML
and quickly reinstalled word97 when I saw what 2002 and its
bretheren were doing. IMO 2000 and up aren't really intended for
writing web pages; it's more of an intranet tool. The files are
huge and contain too much personal information unless you
remember to strip them each time, plus Word refuses to let you
use hex or ascii codes without interpreting them for you, and a
host of other things I didn't like.
Prior to NVU I used Word97, Front Page Express and NoteTAB
plus ftp to do my site work. I was about to go for Dreamweaver
when I discovered NVU and tried it out. I like NVU because I can
do everything I need to do in one application if I want to, from
layout to upload, but I still use my ftp client for uploads. It
has a few bugs but the bugs are listed and advertised on the site
and in the forums, and except for the reformatting of code, they
all seem to have workarounds. BTW, checking the "Do Not Reformat
Code" box doesn't turn it off; it does nothing for the problem.
It's a known bug. I particularly like the way it offers to
create anchor names, target names, filenames, etc etc if you want
it to; lots less memory work.
The only other "feature" I don't like is that it doesn't let
you mouse-select a bookmark when you link to another file; you
have to type it into the box, but that will be fixed too, and it
does keep the bookmark name onscreen most of the time, so you can
see it to copy it.
Word 2000 and up is great, but wasn't intended for doing web
pages.
HTH,
"Alan" wrote in message
news:560C2816-EC12-43D5-BD5F-CBE72F158CD3@microsoft.com...
:I downloaded NVU and tried it on a HTML file created by MS Word
2000. It
: changed lines like
:
: <p class=MsoNormal><![if !supportEmptyParas]>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></p>
:
: to
:
: <p class="MsoNormal"><!--[if
: !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p></p>
:
: Because there is no space following "<!--" these constructs
show up in the
: browser (IE 6). If the spaces had been present, would the
construct work as
: intended?
:
: "PopS" wrote:
:
: > NVU at nvu.com is an excellent tool for creating web
: > pages and is similar enough to Word to use out of the
: > box, but does have a learning curve. It's also free
: > and open source. It's just been released after a long
: > development cycle at 1.0.
: >
: >
: > "lostinspace" wrote in
: > message
: > news:Kj3ve.5954$Y75.138@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
: > > ----- Original Message -----
: > > From: "Betty J" <>
: > > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.word.web.authoring
: > > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:07 PM
: > > Subject: How to prevent overwriting of simple HTML in
: > > Word
: > >
: > >
: > >>I like using Word for developing web pages, but it
: > >>seems that when I copy into Word some simple HTML
: > >>commands from pages created with text/other HTML
: > >>editors, Word changes the lines into more complicated
: > >>info. This leads to unpredictable results at times
: > >>when I display the pages in IE or AOL.
: > >>
: > >> Is there a way to prevent this? Thanks.
: > >>
: > >> BJ
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>
: > >
: > > BJ,
: > > If you manually edit html from Word created web
: > > pages with a text editor?
: > > That should be the end of your use of Word on that
: > > completed HTML page.
: > >
: > > If you go back an edit the Word file and create a new
: > > page than the text editor inserted changes will no
: > > longer be active.
: > >
: > > There is no way to prevent this from within Words
: > > settings.
: > > You may reduce it (by changing the Word Web options
: > > [see below], however never eliminate it.
: > >
: > > To access Word Web options:
: > > Tools / General / Web Options / Files / untick the
: > > following:
: > >
: > > Organize files in supporting Folder
: > >
: > > Update links on save
: > >
: > > Check if Word is default
: > >
: > > Tools / General / Web Options / Pictures /untick all
: > >
: > >
: > > Word was NEVER intended to be used as a medium to
: > > create web pages, rather a TRANSPORT medium to return
: > > html formatted Word doc to their original state.
: > > You'd best be advised to find a more effective tool
: > > for creating web pages. The initial aggravation will
: > > save you endless hours in attempting to understand
: > > and correct inefficiencies in Word created HTML.
: > >
: > >
: > >
: >
: >
: >
date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 09:31:46 -0400
author: PopS
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