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date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:15:02 -0800,    group: microsoft.public.word.web.authoring        back       


HTML pages, Word 07   
I can't find any help at all for details of Web page creation in Word 2007. 
Does anyone know where to find it? A search in their Help box turns up zero 
applicable hits. Thanks in advance.

Arlene
date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:15:02 -0800   author:   Arlene

Re: HTML pages, Word 07   
Hi Arlene,

The Save as Web Page and Web Page preview features in Word 2007 are the ones from prior versions. MS left them in for compatability,
but is no longer actively promoting them, instead recommending working with MS Office Sharepoint libraries, or using the Word
blogging feature (Office Button=>New=>New Blog Post features.

 To save in Word 2007 to either the filtered (smaller) or unfiltered web document version use
  Office Button=>Save|> Other Formats and choose either
   Web Page
   Web Page, filtered
as needed.

To add the Web page preview to the Quick Access Toolbar, right click on the quick access toolbar and choose
  Customize Quick Access Toolbar
In the 'Choose Commands from' dropdown select 'All Commands' then scroll down to the Web Page Preview choice and 'Add' it to the QAT
list.

===================
  <<"Arlene"  wrote in message news:399EEF22-8B7A-448C-B90F-8A1D4B931392@microsoft.com...
I can't find any help at all for details of Web page creation in Word 2007.
Does anyone know where to find it? A search in their Help box turns up zero
applicable hits. Thanks in advance.

Arlene <<
-- 

Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

  *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:19:32 -0800   author:   Bob Buckland ?:-\) 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com

Re: HTML pages, Word 07   
I had no idea! It's not the good news for me as I write textbooks and am 
trying to revise steps for Web page creation from a Word 2003 manual and make 
them work in Word 2007 in the sameway. Do you recommend anywhere I can go to 
get more in-depth information?

"Bob   Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

> Hi Arlene,
> 
> The Save as Web Page and Web Page preview features in Word 2007 are the ones from prior versions. MS left them in for compatability,
> but is no longer actively promoting them, instead recommending working with MS Office Sharepoint libraries, or using the Word
> blogging feature (Office Button=>New=>New Blog Post features.
> 
>  To save in Word 2007 to either the filtered (smaller) or unfiltered web document version use
>   Office Button=>Save|> Other Formats and choose either
>    Web Page
>    Web Page, filtered
> as needed.
> 
> To add the Web page preview to the Quick Access Toolbar, right click on the quick access toolbar and choose
>   Customize Quick Access Toolbar
> In the 'Choose Commands from' dropdown select 'All Commands' then scroll down to the Web Page Preview choice and 'Add' it to the QAT
> list.
> 
> ===================
>   <<"Arlene"  wrote in message news:399EEF22-8B7A-448C-B90F-8A1D4B931392@microsoft.com...
> I can't find any help at all for details of Web page creation in Word 2007.
> Does anyone know where to find it? A search in their Help box turns up zero
> applicable hits. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Arlene <<
> -- 
> 
> Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
> 
>   *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
> 
> 
>
date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:10:00 -0800   author:   Arlene

Re: HTML pages, Word 07   
Hi Arlene,

The two changes mentioned in the last message get you setup to do basically what you could do in Word 2003 as far as saving the
files and previewing them.  You are no longer able to view the HTML source from within Word's use of the MS Script Editor (that has
been disconnected).

To view and edit the source in Word you'd need to reopen the HTML file in Word after turning on the Word option to
 [x] Confirm Word file format conversion on open
(Alt, T, O, A  then scroll down to the 'General section')
and when you open the Word HTML file choose
 'Plain text'
as the file type.

What features are you looking for from prior versions.  Items such as the Frames Pages have to be added to the Quick Action Toolbar,
but others are on the Ribbon.

=================
  <<"Arlene"  wrote in message news:CBAC71B9-4EA2-41D5-A112-B3CCEE356E25@microsoft.com...
I had no idea! It's not the good news for me as I write textbooks and am
trying to revise steps for Web page creation from a Word 2003 manual and make
them work in Word 2007 in the sameway. Do you recommend anywhere I can go to
get more in-depth information? <<
-- 

Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

  *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:48:30 -0800   author:   Bob Buckland ?:-\) 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com

Re: HTML pages, Word 07   
Basically, I'm just wanting to figure out how to save a Web page intact and 
generate the smalles number of addtional files. The Web page will include a 
table and clip art and eventually, a theme. I was playing around and it seems 
like after I saved the Web page and found all of the files below in the 
folder I created, that I could delete all these files except the .htm file 
and the wmz file and the WEb page opened fine in both the browser and in 
Word. Any ideas in that regard? (BTW, I've been reading your posts to other 
questions--you're excellent!)

*.htm
*_colorschememapping.xml
*_filelist.xml
*_image001.wmz
*_image003.gif
*_themedata.thmx


"Bob   Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

> Hi Arlene,
> 
> The two changes mentioned in the last message get you setup to do basically what you could do in Word 2003 as far as saving the
> files and previewing them.  You are no longer able to view the HTML source from within Word's use of the MS Script Editor (that has
> been disconnected).
> 
> To view and edit the source in Word you'd need to reopen the HTML file in Word after turning on the Word option to
>  [x] Confirm Word file format conversion on open
> (Alt, T, O, A  then scroll down to the 'General section')
> and when you open the Word HTML file choose
>  'Plain text'
> as the file type.
> 
> What features are you looking for from prior versions.  Items such as the Frames Pages have to be added to the Quick Action Toolbar,
> but others are on the Ribbon.
> 
> =================
>   <<"Arlene"  wrote in message news:CBAC71B9-4EA2-41D5-A112-B3CCEE356E25@microsoft.com...
> I had no idea! It's not the good news for me as I write textbooks and am
> trying to revise steps for Web page creation from a Word 2003 manual and make
> them work in Word 2007 in the sameway. Do you recommend anywhere I can go to
> get more in-depth information? <<
> -- 
> 
> Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
> 
>   *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
> 
> 
>
date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:33:00 -0800   author:   Arlene

Re: HTML pages, Word 07   
Hi Arlene,

Whether you use Word's Save As Web Page or Save as Web Page filtered none of the content should be deleted manually and all of it
should be uploaded to the web host (the .htm file and its supporting folder).  If you insert pictures, resize them before inserting
in your Word document or for a Web document Word tends to save both the original and the 'resized' copy for reuse.

The Filtered Web Pages will be smaller than the 'regular' Word Web pages, but usually larger than those produced in a 'standalone'
web page editor.

===============
  <<"Arlene"  wrote in message news:F3140744-729A-4DF9-B6A4-8DCA3B699ECB@microsoft.com...
Basically, I'm just wanting to figure out how to save a Web page intact and
generate the smalles number of addtional files. The Web page will include a
table and clip art and eventually, a theme. I was playing around and it seems
like after I saved the Web page and found all of the files below in the
folder I created, that I could delete all these files except the .htm file
and the wmz file and the WEb page opened fine in both the browser and in
Word. Any ideas in that regard? (BTW, I've been reading your posts to other
questions--you're excellent!)

*.htm
*_colorschememapping.xml
*_filelist.xml
*_image001.wmz
*_image003.gif
*_themedata.thmx >>
-- 

Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

  *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:11:56 -0800   author:   Bob Buckland ?:-\) 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com

Re: HTML pages, Word 07   
Thanks, Bob--exactly what is the definition of a filtered Web page? It will 
not be possible to resize the clip art before inserting it in the Web page. 
Does resizing it after cause a big problem?

Arlene

"Bob   Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

> Hi Arlene,
> 
> Whether you use Word's Save As Web Page or Save as Web Page filtered none of the content should be deleted manually and all of it
> should be uploaded to the web host (the .htm file and its supporting folder).  If you insert pictures, resize them before inserting
> in your Word document or for a Web document Word tends to save both the original and the 'resized' copy for reuse.
> 
> The Filtered Web Pages will be smaller than the 'regular' Word Web pages, but usually larger than those produced in a 'standalone'
> web page editor.
> 
> ===============
>   <<"Arlene"  wrote in message news:F3140744-729A-4DF9-B6A4-8DCA3B699ECB@microsoft.com...
> Basically, I'm just wanting to figure out how to save a Web page intact and
> generate the smalles number of addtional files. The Web page will include a
> table and clip art and eventually, a theme. I was playing around and it seems
> like after I saved the Web page and found all of the files below in the
> folder I created, that I could delete all these files except the .htm file
> and the wmz file and the WEb page opened fine in both the browser and in
> Word. Any ideas in that regard? (BTW, I've been reading your posts to other
> questions--you're excellent!)
> 
> *.htm
> *_colorschememapping.xml
> *_filelist.xml
> *_image001.wmz
> *_image003.gif
> *_themedata.thmx >>
> -- 
> 
> Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
> 
>   *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
> 
> 
>
date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:51:01 -0800   author:   Arlene

Re: HTML pages, Word 07   
Hi Arlene,

MS Word's Save As Web Page feature was intended to allow folks to save a Word document as a web page (largely in corporate/closed
environments) without needing to know anything more about web pages and HTML than how to use 'Save As'.  Each of these documents was
setup to be able to 'round trip' it back into a Word document without any loss of content, while producing a more limited version
that web browsers could use.  For the folks who create carefully crafted web pages, streamlined to load faster in browsers, the
'code' that Word produces is considered to be 'bloated' (slow).

MS added the Save As Web Page, Filtered option, to try to allow users to produce web documents for public web pages that would still
look as much as possible as the original Word document, but removing the extra content that allowed it to be 'round tripped' back to
Word by the original author or others visiting a web site.  If you're using the 'filtered' version, it's a good practice to save
first as .DOC file so that you have an original to update later.  While the 'filtered' version cuts back on the 'code' size, but
it's still considered 'bloated' by afficianados of web design.  However, the goal from Microsoft was the same -  be able to create a
web page from a document without knowing much more than how to use 'Save As'.  This allows Word users to create something useful,
with minimal extra effort and in rapid time.


======================
  <<"Arlene"  wrote in message news:87947958-495B-4C93-9E03-B7646555C1DB@microsoft.com...
Thanks, Bob--exactly what is the definition of a filtered Web page? It will
not be possible to resize the clip art before inserting it in the Web page.
Does resizing it after cause a big problem?

Arlene >>
-- 

Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

  *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:54:26 -0800   author:   Bob Buckland ?:-\) 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com

Re: HTML pages, Word 07   
Thanks--extrememly helpful information on this cryptic feature.

"Bob   Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

> Hi Arlene,
> 
> MS Word's Save As Web Page feature was intended to allow folks to save a Word document as a web page (largely in corporate/closed
> environments) without needing to know anything more about web pages and HTML than how to use 'Save As'.  Each of these documents was
> setup to be able to 'round trip' it back into a Word document without any loss of content, while producing a more limited version
> that web browsers could use.  For the folks who create carefully crafted web pages, streamlined to load faster in browsers, the
> 'code' that Word produces is considered to be 'bloated' (slow).
> 
> MS added the Save As Web Page, Filtered option, to try to allow users to produce web documents for public web pages that would still
> look as much as possible as the original Word document, but removing the extra content that allowed it to be 'round tripped' back to
> Word by the original author or others visiting a web site.  If you're using the 'filtered' version, it's a good practice to save
> first as .DOC file so that you have an original to update later.  While the 'filtered' version cuts back on the 'code' size, but
> it's still considered 'bloated' by afficianados of web design.  However, the goal from Microsoft was the same -  be able to create a
> web page from a document without knowing much more than how to use 'Save As'.  This allows Word users to create something useful,
> with minimal extra effort and in rapid time.
> 
> 
> ======================
>   <<"Arlene"  wrote in message news:87947958-495B-4C93-9E03-B7646555C1DB@microsoft.com...
> Thanks, Bob--exactly what is the definition of a filtered Web page? It will
> not be possible to resize the clip art before inserting it in the Web page.
> Does resizing it after cause a big problem?
> 
> Arlene >>
> -- 
> 
> Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
> 
>   *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
> 
> 
>
date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:01:00 -0800   author:   Arlene

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