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date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:48:03 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.word.tables        back       


empty paragraphs above below tables   
In Word 2007, are empty paragraphs above/below a table a good thing to 
include? If so, why? I have this nagging feeling that always striking empty 
paragraphs above/below table might get you into trouble..but I cannot cite a 
specific example at the moment. Is it maybe only at the very end of a 
document that you need to let one below a table remain?

Thanks for recommendations on this.
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:48:03 -0700   author:   cayce

Re: empty paragraphs above below tables   
You *cannot* delete the empty paragraph below a table at the end of the 
document. All others are optional. Reasons for empty paragraphs above or 
below tables include:

1. Separating tables from each other. If you don't have an empty paragraph 
between two tables, they will be joined into one table.

2. Separating tables from preceding/following text. If your table doesn't 
have a border, you can add Space Above to the first row or Space Below to 
the last row to create more space between the table text and adjacent body 
text. But if the table has a border, the Space Above/Below is applied inside 
the border rather than outside (just the opposite of what happens with a 
paragraph border), so the alternatives include adding Space Below to a 
paragraph above the table/Space Above to a following paragraph or inserting 
an empty paragraph above/below the table.

-- 
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cayce"  wrote in message 
news:52FE2851-4BCC-4BFC-AB32-EA8B2CF1531C@microsoft.com...
> In Word 2007, are empty paragraphs above/below a table a good thing to
> include? If so, why? I have this nagging feeling that always striking 
> empty
> paragraphs above/below table might get you into trouble..but I cannot cite 
> a
> specific example at the moment. Is it maybe only at the very end of a
> document that you need to let one below a table remain?
>
> Thanks for recommendations on this.
>
>
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:41:37 -0500   author:   Suzanne S. Barnhill

Re: empty paragraphs above below tables   
Thanks Suzanne..this is good information. We do use a LOT of borderless 
tables to simulate wrapped text with images and I do not want ot change the 
table heading style, so, an occasional empty parapgrah it shall be!

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> You *cannot* delete the empty paragraph below a table at the end of the 
> document. All others are optional. Reasons for empty paragraphs above or 
> below tables include:
> 
> 1. Separating tables from each other. If you don't have an empty paragraph 
> between two tables, they will be joined into one table.
> 
> 2. Separating tables from preceding/following text. If your table doesn't 
> have a border, you can add Space Above to the first row or Space Below to 
> the last row to create more space between the table text and adjacent body 
> text. But if the table has a border, the Space Above/Below is applied inside 
> the border rather than outside (just the opposite of what happens with a 
> paragraph border), so the alternatives include adding Space Below to a 
> paragraph above the table/Space Above to a following paragraph or inserting 
> an empty paragraph above/below the table.
> 
> -- 
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> 
> "cayce"  wrote in message 
> news:52FE2851-4BCC-4BFC-AB32-EA8B2CF1531C@microsoft.com...
> > In Word 2007, are empty paragraphs above/below a table a good thing to
> > include? If so, why? I have this nagging feeling that always striking 
> > empty
> > paragraphs above/below table might get you into trouble..but I cannot cite 
> > a
> > specific example at the moment. Is it maybe only at the very end of a
> > document that you need to let one below a table remain?
> >
> > Thanks for recommendations on this.
> >
> > 
> 
> 
>
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:26:10 -0700   author:   cayce

Re: empty paragraphs above below tables   
FWIW, I have a Body Text Space Before style that I use after tables and at 
other points in a document where space as needed (in novels to indicate 
lapse of time, for example).

-- 
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cayce"  wrote in message 
news:A6D976CE-1636-40DF-9258-7A8B06379641@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Suzanne..this is good information. We do use a LOT of borderless
> tables to simulate wrapped text with images and I do not want ot change 
> the
> table heading style, so, an occasional empty parapgrah it shall be!
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>
>> You *cannot* delete the empty paragraph below a table at the end of the
>> document. All others are optional. Reasons for empty paragraphs above or
>> below tables include:
>>
>> 1. Separating tables from each other. If you don't have an empty 
>> paragraph
>> between two tables, they will be joined into one table.
>>
>> 2. Separating tables from preceding/following text. If your table doesn't
>> have a border, you can add Space Above to the first row or Space Below to
>> the last row to create more space between the table text and adjacent 
>> body
>> text. But if the table has a border, the Space Above/Below is applied 
>> inside
>> the border rather than outside (just the opposite of what happens with a
>> paragraph border), so the alternatives include adding Space Below to a
>> paragraph above the table/Space Above to a following paragraph or 
>> inserting
>> an empty paragraph above/below the table.
>>
>> -- 
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "cayce"  wrote in message
>> news:52FE2851-4BCC-4BFC-AB32-EA8B2CF1531C@microsoft.com...
>> > In Word 2007, are empty paragraphs above/below a table a good thing to
>> > include? If so, why? I have this nagging feeling that always striking
>> > empty
>> > paragraphs above/below table might get you into trouble..but I cannot 
>> > cite
>> > a
>> > specific example at the moment. Is it maybe only at the very end of a
>> > document that you need to let one below a table remain?
>> >
>> > Thanks for recommendations on this.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:19:41 -0500   author:   Suzanne S. Barnhill

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