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date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:30:02 -0700,
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Re: Line/printing issues in tables
Since you haven't really defined "evenly" or "lined up," it's hard to offer
further advice.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
"Janelle" wrote in message
news:B38F932D-723A-4F48-96D9-FDD23A4B4F0D@microsoft.com...
>I have tried to do what you have said but for some reason I can't get these
> lines to print right. No matter what I do I can't get the lines to print
> evenly. I am not Word savvy so I am wondering if there is anything else
> that
> can be done.
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>
>> The lines above totals? I usually use underlines, typing as many extra
>> spaces at the beginning as required to make the line as wide as the
>> total.
>> In a table, you can also apply a bottom border to the cell. If you want
>> to
>> get really fancy, you can apply a bottom border to the paragraph in the
>> cell
>> instead, using paragraph indents to make the border the right width.
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "Janelle" wrote in message
>> news:8FF90DC6-A24B-4279-B829-06181EC805DF@microsoft.com...
>> > No the dashes indicating no value are not the issue. The line or lines
>> > in
>> > question are the equals line or lines. It isn't easy to explain
>> > because I
>> > have no way of showing you.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
>> >
>> >> By "lines" do you mean dashes indicating no value? If so, have you
>> >> tried
>> >> aligning the numbers on a decimal tab and separately centering the
>> >> dashes or
>> >> other nonnumeric entries?
>> >>
>> >> PamC
>> >>
>> >> Janelle wrote:
>> >> >I am creating financial statements in Word 2007 using tables.
>> >> >
>> >> >I am able to create a table with 4 to 5 columns and numerous rows. In
>> >> >the
>> >> >last two columns I key numbers and dollar signs or lines. I am able
>> >> >to
>> >> >get
>> >> >my numbers, lines and dollar signs to line up on my computer screen.
>> >> >Once I
>> >> >print the financial statement, I am able to get the numbers and
>> >> >dollar
>> >> >signs
>> >> >to line up but not the lines. This is an ongoing problem that I am
>> >> >hoping to
>> >> >get cleared up soon. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Any
>> >> >suggestions
>> >> >would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Message posted via OfficeKB.com
>> >> http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/word-tables/200808/1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:29:36 -0500
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: Line/printing issues in tables
There are approximately 25 rows and 4 to 5 columns in my table. The last two
columns of my table contain amounts. The amounts can range from 30 to
4,598,999. I can get the amounts to line up evenly by aligning them to the
left of the cell. And I can get the dollar sign and lines above the totals
to line up evenly on my computer screen. So everything is in neat columns.
But the minute I print the table to paper the lines above the totals print in
different lengths. They do not line up evenly. The numbers and dollar signs
are fine though. Hope this helps more.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> Since you haven't really defined "evenly" or "lined up," it's hard to offer
> further advice.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "Janelle" wrote in message
> news:B38F932D-723A-4F48-96D9-FDD23A4B4F0D@microsoft.com...
> >I have tried to do what you have said but for some reason I can't get these
> > lines to print right. No matter what I do I can't get the lines to print
> > evenly. I am not Word savvy so I am wondering if there is anything else
> > that
> > can be done.
> >
> > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >
> >> The lines above totals? I usually use underlines, typing as many extra
> >> spaces at the beginning as required to make the line as wide as the
> >> total.
> >> In a table, you can also apply a bottom border to the cell. If you want
> >> to
> >> get really fancy, you can apply a bottom border to the paragraph in the
> >> cell
> >> instead, using paragraph indents to make the border the right width.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> Words into Type
> >> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >>
> >> "Janelle" wrote in message
> >> news:8FF90DC6-A24B-4279-B829-06181EC805DF@microsoft.com...
> >> > No the dashes indicating no value are not the issue. The line or lines
> >> > in
> >> > question are the equals line or lines. It isn't easy to explain
> >> > because I
> >> > have no way of showing you.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> By "lines" do you mean dashes indicating no value? If so, have you
> >> >> tried
> >> >> aligning the numbers on a decimal tab and separately centering the
> >> >> dashes or
> >> >> other nonnumeric entries?
> >> >>
> >> >> PamC
> >> >>
> >> >> Janelle wrote:
> >> >> >I am creating financial statements in Word 2007 using tables.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I am able to create a table with 4 to 5 columns and numerous rows. In
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >last two columns I key numbers and dollar signs or lines. I am able
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >get
> >> >> >my numbers, lines and dollar signs to line up on my computer screen.
> >> >> >Once I
> >> >> >print the financial statement, I am able to get the numbers and
> >> >> >dollar
> >> >> >signs
> >> >> >to line up but not the lines. This is an ongoing problem that I am
> >> >> >hoping to
> >> >> >get cleared up soon. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Any
> >> >> >suggestions
> >> >> >would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Message posted via OfficeKB.com
> >> >> http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/word-tables/200808/1
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:52:01 -0700
author: Janelle
Re: Line/printing issues in tables
Why are you not right-aligning or decimal-aligning them?
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
"Janelle" wrote in message
news:4DE18E14-B61A-4695-A341-1C6B28707B2E@microsoft.com...
> There are approximately 25 rows and 4 to 5 columns in my table. The last
> two
> columns of my table contain amounts. The amounts can range from 30 to
> 4,598,999. I can get the amounts to line up evenly by aligning them to
> the
> left of the cell. And I can get the dollar sign and lines above the
> totals
> to line up evenly on my computer screen. So everything is in neat
> columns.
> But the minute I print the table to paper the lines above the totals print
> in
> different lengths. They do not line up evenly. The numbers and dollar
> signs
> are fine though. Hope this helps more.
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>
>> Since you haven't really defined "evenly" or "lined up," it's hard to
>> offer
>> further advice.
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "Janelle" wrote in message
>> news:B38F932D-723A-4F48-96D9-FDD23A4B4F0D@microsoft.com...
>> >I have tried to do what you have said but for some reason I can't get
>> >these
>> > lines to print right. No matter what I do I can't get the lines to
>> > print
>> > evenly. I am not Word savvy so I am wondering if there is anything
>> > else
>> > that
>> > can be done.
>> >
>> > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The lines above totals? I usually use underlines, typing as many extra
>> >> spaces at the beginning as required to make the line as wide as the
>> >> total.
>> >> In a table, you can also apply a bottom border to the cell. If you
>> >> want
>> >> to
>> >> get really fancy, you can apply a bottom border to the paragraph in
>> >> the
>> >> cell
>> >> instead, using paragraph indents to make the border the right width.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> Words into Type
>> >> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >>
>> >> "Janelle" wrote in message
>> >> news:8FF90DC6-A24B-4279-B829-06181EC805DF@microsoft.com...
>> >> > No the dashes indicating no value are not the issue. The line or
>> >> > lines
>> >> > in
>> >> > question are the equals line or lines. It isn't easy to explain
>> >> > because I
>> >> > have no way of showing you.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> By "lines" do you mean dashes indicating no value? If so, have
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> tried
>> >> >> aligning the numbers on a decimal tab and separately centering the
>> >> >> dashes or
>> >> >> other nonnumeric entries?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> PamC
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Janelle wrote:
>> >> >> >I am creating financial statements in Word 2007 using tables.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I am able to create a table with 4 to 5 columns and numerous rows.
>> >> >> >In
>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >last two columns I key numbers and dollar signs or lines. I am
>> >> >> >able
>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >get
>> >> >> >my numbers, lines and dollar signs to line up on my computer
>> >> >> >screen.
>> >> >> >Once I
>> >> >> >print the financial statement, I am able to get the numbers and
>> >> >> >dollar
>> >> >> >signs
>> >> >> >to line up but not the lines. This is an ongoing problem that I
>> >> >> >am
>> >> >> >hoping to
>> >> >> >get cleared up soon. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Any
>> >> >> >suggestions
>> >> >> >would be greatly appreciated.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Message posted via OfficeKB.com
>> >> >> http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/word-tables/200808/1
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:26:57 -0500
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: Line/printing issues in tables
We don't use decimals. We use only whole numbers. And all the rows in the
last 2 columns are right aligned. I gave you the wrong information the last
time around, I am sorry.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> Why are you not right-aligning or decimal-aligning them?
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "Janelle" wrote in message
> news:4DE18E14-B61A-4695-A341-1C6B28707B2E@microsoft.com...
> > There are approximately 25 rows and 4 to 5 columns in my table. The last
> > two
> > columns of my table contain amounts. The amounts can range from 30 to
> > 4,598,999. I can get the amounts to line up evenly by aligning them to
> > the
> > left of the cell. And I can get the dollar sign and lines above the
> > totals
> > to line up evenly on my computer screen. So everything is in neat
> > columns.
> > But the minute I print the table to paper the lines above the totals print
> > in
> > different lengths. They do not line up evenly. The numbers and dollar
> > signs
> > are fine though. Hope this helps more.
> >
> > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >
> >> Since you haven't really defined "evenly" or "lined up," it's hard to
> >> offer
> >> further advice.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> Words into Type
> >> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >>
> >> "Janelle" wrote in message
> >> news:B38F932D-723A-4F48-96D9-FDD23A4B4F0D@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have tried to do what you have said but for some reason I can't get
> >> >these
> >> > lines to print right. No matter what I do I can't get the lines to
> >> > print
> >> > evenly. I am not Word savvy so I am wondering if there is anything
> >> > else
> >> > that
> >> > can be done.
> >> >
> >> > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The lines above totals? I usually use underlines, typing as many extra
> >> >> spaces at the beginning as required to make the line as wide as the
> >> >> total.
> >> >> In a table, you can also apply a bottom border to the cell. If you
> >> >> want
> >> >> to
> >> >> get really fancy, you can apply a bottom border to the paragraph in
> >> >> the
> >> >> cell
> >> >> instead, using paragraph indents to make the border the right width.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> >> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> >> Words into Type
> >> >> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> >>
> >> >> "Janelle" wrote in message
> >> >> news:8FF90DC6-A24B-4279-B829-06181EC805DF@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > No the dashes indicating no value are not the issue. The line or
> >> >> > lines
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > question are the equals line or lines. It isn't easy to explain
> >> >> > because I
> >> >> > have no way of showing you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> By "lines" do you mean dashes indicating no value? If so, have
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> tried
> >> >> >> aligning the numbers on a decimal tab and separately centering the
> >> >> >> dashes or
> >> >> >> other nonnumeric entries?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> PamC
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Janelle wrote:
> >> >> >> >I am creating financial statements in Word 2007 using tables.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I am able to create a table with 4 to 5 columns and numerous rows.
> >> >> >> >In
> >> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >last two columns I key numbers and dollar signs or lines. I am
> >> >> >> >able
> >> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> >get
> >> >> >> >my numbers, lines and dollar signs to line up on my computer
> >> >> >> >screen.
> >> >> >> >Once I
> >> >> >> >print the financial statement, I am able to get the numbers and
> >> >> >> >dollar
> >> >> >> >signs
> >> >> >> >to line up but not the lines. This is an ongoing problem that I
> >> >> >> >am
> >> >> >> >hoping to
> >> >> >> >get cleared up soon. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Any
> >> >> >> >suggestions
> >> >> >> >would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Message posted via OfficeKB.com
> >> >> >> http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/word-tables/200808/1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:14:10 -0700
author: Janelle
Re: Line/printing issues in tables
You don't have to have a decimal point to decimal-align figures. The beauty
of decimal alignment is that it aligns figures on the first non-numeric
character (other than the thousands separator) after a series of numbers,
which means that if you have some numbers in parentheses or some with a note
reference mark following, they will still align perfectly. And in tables you
don't even need a tab character for decimal alignment.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
"Janelle" wrote in message
news:AA8EA4EE-C042-4E97-8BDC-D71F24BE5018@microsoft.com...
> We don't use decimals. We use only whole numbers. And all the rows in
> the
> last 2 columns are right aligned. I gave you the wrong information the
> last
> time around, I am sorry.
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>
>> Why are you not right-aligning or decimal-aligning them?
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "Janelle" wrote in message
>> news:4DE18E14-B61A-4695-A341-1C6B28707B2E@microsoft.com...
>> > There are approximately 25 rows and 4 to 5 columns in my table. The
>> > last
>> > two
>> > columns of my table contain amounts. The amounts can range from 30 to
>> > 4,598,999. I can get the amounts to line up evenly by aligning them to
>> > the
>> > left of the cell. And I can get the dollar sign and lines above the
>> > totals
>> > to line up evenly on my computer screen. So everything is in neat
>> > columns.
>> > But the minute I print the table to paper the lines above the totals
>> > print
>> > in
>> > different lengths. They do not line up evenly. The numbers and dollar
>> > signs
>> > are fine though. Hope this helps more.
>> >
>> > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Since you haven't really defined "evenly" or "lined up," it's hard to
>> >> offer
>> >> further advice.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> Words into Type
>> >> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >>
>> >> "Janelle" wrote in message
>> >> news:B38F932D-723A-4F48-96D9-FDD23A4B4F0D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have tried to do what you have said but for some reason I can't get
>> >> >these
>> >> > lines to print right. No matter what I do I can't get the lines to
>> >> > print
>> >> > evenly. I am not Word savvy so I am wondering if there is anything
>> >> > else
>> >> > that
>> >> > can be done.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The lines above totals? I usually use underlines, typing as many
>> >> >> extra
>> >> >> spaces at the beginning as required to make the line as wide as the
>> >> >> total.
>> >> >> In a table, you can also apply a bottom border to the cell. If you
>> >> >> want
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> get really fancy, you can apply a bottom border to the paragraph in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> cell
>> >> >> instead, using paragraph indents to make the border the right
>> >> >> width.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> >> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> >> Words into Type
>> >> >> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Janelle" wrote in message
>> >> >> news:8FF90DC6-A24B-4279-B829-06181EC805DF@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > No the dashes indicating no value are not the issue. The line or
>> >> >> > lines
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > question are the equals line or lines. It isn't easy to explain
>> >> >> > because I
>> >> >> > have no way of showing you.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> By "lines" do you mean dashes indicating no value? If so, have
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> tried
>> >> >> >> aligning the numbers on a decimal tab and separately centering
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> dashes or
>> >> >> >> other nonnumeric entries?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> PamC
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Janelle wrote:
>> >> >> >> >I am creating financial statements in Word 2007 using tables.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >I am able to create a table with 4 to 5 columns and numerous
>> >> >> >> >rows.
>> >> >> >> >In
>> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >last two columns I key numbers and dollar signs or lines. I am
>> >> >> >> >able
>> >> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> >get
>> >> >> >> >my numbers, lines and dollar signs to line up on my computer
>> >> >> >> >screen.
>> >> >> >> >Once I
>> >> >> >> >print the financial statement, I am able to get the numbers and
>> >> >> >> >dollar
>> >> >> >> >signs
>> >> >> >> >to line up but not the lines. This is an ongoing problem that
>> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >am
>> >> >> >> >hoping to
>> >> >> >> >get cleared up soon. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Any
>> >> >> >> >suggestions
>> >> >> >> >would be greatly appreciated.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Message posted via OfficeKB.com
>> >> >> >> http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/word-tables/200808/1
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:31:31 -0500
author: Suzanne S. Barnhill
Re: Line/printing issues in tables
The problem that Janelle is describing has been a problem since SP3. If you
embed an Excel table in Word 2003, and use the underline format, the
underlines may not print. It doesn't matter if you use accounting underline
or the normal underline, some lines do not print. I have tried removing the
underlines and putting them back. The results vary from time to time. Once
you succeed in having an underline print then another one does not print. I
found that if you double click the table and open it on a computer without
SP3, exit the table and save the file, the underlines will print. The
underlines that do not print, will not show in a PDF file or any other print
capture file. They show on the screen but are missing on the ouput. I sent
sample files to Microsoft months ago. The tech was clueless but confirmed
that there was a problem. In addition, the file size in the one where the
underlines didn't print was more than twice the size of the non-SP3 file.
PLEASE HELP
"PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
> By "lines" do you mean dashes indicating no value? If so, have you tried
> aligning the numbers on a decimal tab and separately centering the dashes or
> other nonnumeric entries?
>
> PamC
>
> Janelle wrote:
> >I am creating financial statements in Word 2007 using tables.
> >
> >I am able to create a table with 4 to 5 columns and numerous rows. In the
> >last two columns I key numbers and dollar signs or lines. I am able to get
> >my numbers, lines and dollar signs to line up on my computer screen. Once I
> >print the financial statement, I am able to get the numbers and dollar signs
> >to line up but not the lines. This is an ongoing problem that I am hoping to
> >get cleared up soon. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Any suggestions
> >would be greatly appreciated.
>
> --
> Message posted via OfficeKB.com
> http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/word-tables/200808/1
>
>
date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:05:01 -0800
author: Accounting nerd
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