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date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:01:27 GMT,    group: microsoft.public.word.spelling.grammar        back       


ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
Question. What do you think Microsoft Word believes is wrong with the 
following?

Perfect your English.

The better your English is, the more chance ...

Adrian
date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:01:27 GMT   author:   Adrian Bailey

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
Adrian Bailey wrote:

> Perfect your English.

I guessed it, and I guessed right.

DC

--
date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:49:15 GMT   author:   Django Cat

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
On 2008-02-13 18:49:15 +0100, "Django Cat"  said:

> Adrian Bailey wrote:
> 
>> Perfect your English.
> 
> I guessed it, and I guessed right.

Do tell us. (I don't use M$ Word, so I can't check for myself.)



-- 
athel
date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:06:31 +0100   author:   Athel Cornish-Bowden

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:06:31 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden
 wrote:

>On 2008-02-13 18:49:15 +0100, "Django Cat"  said:
>
>> Adrian Bailey wrote:
>> 
>>> Perfect your English.
>> 
>> I guessed it, and I guessed right.
>
>Do tell us. (I don't use M$ Word, so I can't check for myself.)

I use an old version of Word. It has no comment to make on the
grammar of the sentence.

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:49:21 +0000   author:   Peter Duncanson (BrE)

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:
> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
>> "Django Cat" said:  
>>> Adrian Bailey wrote:

>>>> Perfect your English.
>>> 
>>> I guessed it, and I guessed right.
>> 
>> Do tell us. (I don't use M$ Word, so I can't check for myself.)
> 
> I use an old version of Word. It has no comment to make on the
> grammar of the sentence.

Nor did mine -- Word 2000 (9.0.8981 SP-3).
-- 
Skitt (AmE)
date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:57:00 -0800   author:   Skitt

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:57:00 -0800, "Skitt" 
wrote:

>Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:
>> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
>>> "Django Cat" said:  
>>>> Adrian Bailey wrote:
>
>>>>> Perfect your English.
>>>> 
>>>> I guessed it, and I guessed right.
>>> 
>>> Do tell us. (I don't use M$ Word, so I can't check for myself.)
>> 
>> I use an old version of Word. It has no comment to make on the
>> grammar of the sentence.
>
>Nor did mine -- Word 2000 (9.0.8981 SP-3).

Word 2002 want to see "you're".
-- 
John
date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:19:21 -0600   author:   John O'Flaherty

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:57:00 -0800, Skitt posted:

>Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:
>> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
>>> "Django Cat" said:  
>>>> Adrian Bailey wrote:
>
>>>>> Perfect your English.
>>>> 
>>>> I guessed it, and I guessed right.
>>> 
>>> Do tell us. (I don't use M$ Word, so I can't check for myself.)
>> 
>> I use an old version of Word. It has no comment to make on the
>> grammar of the sentence.
>
>Nor did mine -- Word 2000 (9.0.8981 SP-3).

Nor did OpenOffice.org 2.1 Writer.

-- 
WCdnE
date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:21:37 -0600   author:   Oleg Lego

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
"John O'Flaherty"  wrote in message 
news:skg6r39bep5plor2355eq92ve5aek61bic@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:57:00 -0800, "Skitt" 
> wrote:
>
>>Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:
>>> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>> "Django Cat" said:
>>>>> Adrian Bailey wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Perfect your English.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guessed it, and I guessed right.
>>>>
>>>> Do tell us. (I don't use M$ Word, so I can't check for myself.)
>>>
>>> I use an old version of Word. It has no comment to make on the
>>> grammar of the sentence.
>>
>>Nor did mine -- Word 2000 (9.0.8981 SP-3).
>
> Word 2002 want to see "you're".

Ditto Word 2003.

Adrian
date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:32:19 GMT   author:   Adrian Bailey

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
Skitt wrote:

> Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:
> > Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
> > > "Django Cat" said:  
> > > > Adrian Bailey wrote:
> 
> > > > > Perfect your English.
> > > > 
> > > > I guessed it, and I guessed right.
> > > 
> > > Do tell us. (I don't use M$ Word, so I can't check for myself.)
> > 
> > I use an old version of Word. It has no comment to make on the
> > grammar of the sentence.
> 
> Nor did mine -- Word 2000 (9.0.8981 SP-3).

Word 2003 came up with what I'd expected: 'Perfect you're English'.

DC

--
date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:54:14 GMT   author:   Django Cat

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:54:14 GMT, "Django Cat"
 wrote:

>Skitt wrote:
>
>> Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:
>> > Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: 
>> > > "Django Cat" said:  
>> > > > Adrian Bailey wrote:
>> 
>> > > > > Perfect your English.
>> > > > 
>> > > > I guessed it, and I guessed right.
>> > > 
>> > > Do tell us. (I don't use M$ Word, so I can't check for myself.)
>> > 
>> > I use an old version of Word. It has no comment to make on the
>> > grammar of the sentence.
>> 
>> Nor did mine -- Word 2000 (9.0.8981 SP-3).
>
>Word 2003 came up with what I'd expected: 'Perfect you're English'.
>
All we need is a more advanced version that inserts some
punctuation:

  Perfect -- you're English.

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:08:00 +0000   author:   Peter Duncanson (BrE)

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:

> >> > I use an old version of Word. It has no comment to make on the
> >> > grammar of the sentence.
> >> 
> >> Nor did mine -- Word 2000 (9.0.8981 SP-3).
> > 
> > Word 2003 came up with what I'd expected: 'Perfect you're English'.
> > 
> All we need is a more advanced version that inserts some
> punctuation:
> 
>   Perfect -- you're English.

I'd have settled for a comma.

DC

--
date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:49:44 GMT   author:   Django Cat

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
On Feb 13, 7:32 pm, "Adrian Bailey"  wrote:
> "John O'Flaherty"  wrote in message
>
> news:skg6r39bep5plor2355eq92ve5aek61bic@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:57:00 -0800, "Skitt" 
> > wrote:
>
> >>Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:
> >>> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>>> "Django Cat" said:
> >>>>> Adrian Bailey wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Perfect your English.
>
> >>>>> I guessed it, and I guessed right.
>
> >>>> Do tell us. (I don't use M$ Word, so I can't check for myself.)
>
> >>> I use an old version of Word. It has no comment to make on the
> >>> grammar of the sentence.
>
> >>Nor did mine -- Word 2000 (9.0.8981 SP-3).
>
> > Word 2002 want to see "you're".
>
> Ditto Word 2003.

Ditto Word 2007, once I'd found the relevant check boxes in its arcane
menu structure.
date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:12:25 -0800 (PST)   author:   unknown

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
"Django Cat"  wrote
>
>> > Word 2003 came up with what I'd expected: 'Perfect you're English'.

>> All we need is a more advanced version that inserts some
>> punctuation:

>>   Perfect -- you're English.

> I'd have settled for a comma.

Comma splice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_splice

The correct punctuation might be:

Perfect! You're English!

(Let me see. That sentence would have been said by...)

-- 
Bob
http://www.kanyak.com
date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:08:55 +0200   author:   Opinicus

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:08:55 +0200, "Opinicus"
 wrote:

>"Django Cat"  wrote
>>
>>> > Word 2003 came up with what I'd expected: 'Perfect you're English'.
>
>>> All we need is a more advanced version that inserts some
>>> punctuation:
>
>>>   Perfect -- you're English.
>
>> I'd have settled for a comma.
>
>Comma splice.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_splice
>
I originally used a comma. That would have been perfectly
acceptable in informal writing in British English. I decided not
to use it to avoid offending Americans who often react to a
comma splice as though the user had made a an unspeakably
indecent suggestion.

>The correct punctuation might be:
>
>Perfect! You're English!
>
>(Let me see. That sentence would have been said by...)

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:51:40 +0000   author:   Peter Duncanson (BrE)

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
Opinicus filted:
>
>The correct punctuation might be:
>
>Perfect! You're English!
>
>(Let me see. That sentence would have been said by...)

The Giant, to Jack, of beanstalk fame....r


-- 
What good is being an executive if you never get to execute anyone?
date: 14 Feb 2008 06:11:18 -0800   author:   R H Draney

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
Opinicus wrote:

> 
> >>  Perfect -- you're English.
> 
> > I'd have settled for a comma.
> 
> Comma splice.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_splice


You live and learn.  White and Strunk, 1919, eh?  How have I got so far
in life without knowing about this?

> 
> The correct punctuation might be:
> 
> Perfect! You're English!

That, and only that, then, eh? 

Golly.

> 
> (Let me see. That sentence would have been said by...)

Somebody in America programming the MS grammar checker.

DC

--
date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:01:31 GMT   author:   Django Cat

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:

> 
> >"Django Cat"  wrote
> > > 
> >>> > Word 2003 came up with what I'd expected: 'Perfect you're
> English'.
> > 
> >>> All we need is a more advanced version that inserts some
> >>> punctuation:
> > 
> >>>   Perfect -- you're English.
> > 
> >> I'd have settled for a comma.
> > 
> > Comma splice.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_splice
> > 
> I originally used a comma. That would have been perfectly
> acceptable in informal writing in British English. I decided not
> to use it to avoid offending Americans who often react to a
> comma splice as though the user had made a an unspeakably
> indecent suggestion.

Mmm hmm....

DC

--
date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:04:11 GMT   author:   Django Cat

Re: ms grammar checker rubbish redux   
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:08:55 퍭, "Opinicus"
 wrote:

>"Django Cat"  wrote
>>
>>> > Word 2003 came up with what I'd expected: 'Perfect you're English'.
>
>>> All we need is a more advanced version that inserts some
>>> punctuation:
>
>>>   Perfect -- you're English.
>
>> I'd have settled for a comma.
>
>Comma splice.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_splice
>
>The correct punctuation might be:
>
>Perfect! You're English!
>
>(Let me see. That sentence would have been said by...)

I see this is cross-posted to three groups, Bob.  It's been many
a year since Opinicus appeared in AUE.
-- 
Robin Bignall (BrE)
Herts, England
date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:22:51 +0000   author:   Robin Bignall

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