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date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:25:58 -0500,
group: microsoft.public.word.setup.networking
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Re: normal.dot
While there may be a way to continue what you were doing, I'm not going to
spend any time trying to discover it because what you are doing is wrong.
normal.dot should _not_ be shared. For document setup, use custom document
templates which can be shared in the workgroup folder. See
http://addbalance.com/word/movetotemplate.htm for step-by-step instructions
on moving / sharing / copying / backing-up customizations including
AutoText, AutoCorrect, keyboard assignments, toolbars, macros, etc. For more
on the different kinds of templates, tabs on the file new dialog, and
locations of templates folders see
http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm.
That you are being asked about saving changes to normal.dot indicates to me
that something else is going on, anyway, something that is making changes to
normal.dot. This is probably a poorly written Add-In. The Norton AV Office
Plug-In seems to be the most frequent offender recently, but that can change
as some other poorly written program comes on the market.
Other offenders include the MS Works Suite Add-In, EZ-Photo, Scansoft, and
Adobe Acrobat. These all install Add-Ins that mess with your normal.dot when
they shouldn't do so and don't need to do so. Some of these are .dot files,
others are installed. See <URL:
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/CheckIfAddinsInstalled.htm> for
instructions on seeing what Add-Ins you have. (Having Add-Ins is not a bad
thing. I run Word with 15 Add-Ins, most of which I wrote myself.)
Start with the Add-Ins I've noted. If you have any of them, decide whether
they are worth the annoyance they are causing you. Probably they are not.
Disable any that are not worth the candle. Restart Word and see if your
problem is gone.
If not...
If you start Word using
Start => Run: Winword.exe /a
you'll end up with Word out of the box loading without your saved normal.dot
file, with no macros and no Add-Ins. You may notice that it loads much more
quickly than you are used to seing. When you close it, you won't get the
"normal.dot" prompt. Doing this may fix the problem, by itself, but probably
will not. Generally, it is a diagnostic, not a fix.
So, what you need to do is disable all of your Add-Ins (don't delete them).
Start by moving .dot files out of your Word Startup folder, one-by-one, with
Word closed. Restart Word and see if that Add-In caused the problem. If not,
put it back in and take the next one out. (You can put them in a sub-folder
of your Startup folder.) If none of them are the problem, move to the .com
Add-Ins that have to be uninstalled.
If your offender is not on my list, please write back and let us know which
one caused your problems.
Write to the company that put out the Add-In with a complaint, and possibly
a bill for your time.
Hope this helps,
--
Charles Kenyon
Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
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"Eric" wrote in message
news:utemXir7FHA.3044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> We currently use Word97 with a read only normal.dot file on the network
> setup as a workgroup template. It allows me to standardize our document
> with
> the same page setup but also to bring customized toolbars to all my users.
> When I try the same configuration with Word 2003 everytime I exit I am
> asked
> if I want to save the normal.dot that's being shared on the network.
>
> What has changed? Any way to make it work the same way?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Eric.
>
>
date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:28:04 -0600
author: Charles Kenyon
Re: normal.dot
Renaming and moving the normal.dot to a "shared" startup folder brought the
customized toolbars/menus to Word. I am still working on a way to
automatically ("transparently") setup every new document created by users
according to a specific template.
Thank you for showing me the right direction.
Eric.
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in
message news:%236iuLls7FHA.744@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> While there may be a way to continue what you were doing, I'm not going to
> spend any time trying to discover it because what you are doing is wrong.
> normal.dot should _not_ be shared. For document setup, use custom document
> templates which can be shared in the workgroup folder. See
> http://addbalance.com/word/movetotemplate.htm for step-by-step
instructions
> on moving / sharing / copying / backing-up customizations including
> AutoText, AutoCorrect, keyboard assignments, toolbars, macros, etc. For
more
> on the different kinds of templates, tabs on the file new dialog, and
> locations of templates folders see
> http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm.
>
> That you are being asked about saving changes to normal.dot indicates to
me
> that something else is going on, anyway, something that is making changes
to
> normal.dot. This is probably a poorly written Add-In. The Norton AV Office
> Plug-In seems to be the most frequent offender recently, but that can
change
> as some other poorly written program comes on the market.
>
> Other offenders include the MS Works Suite Add-In, EZ-Photo, Scansoft, and
> Adobe Acrobat. These all install Add-Ins that mess with your normal.dot
when
> they shouldn't do so and don't need to do so. Some of these are .dot
files,
> others are installed. See <URL:
> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/CheckIfAddinsInstalled.htm> for
> instructions on seeing what Add-Ins you have. (Having Add-Ins is not a bad
> thing. I run Word with 15 Add-Ins, most of which I wrote myself.)
>
> Start with the Add-Ins I've noted. If you have any of them, decide whether
> they are worth the annoyance they are causing you. Probably they are not.
> Disable any that are not worth the candle. Restart Word and see if your
> problem is gone.
>
> If not...
>
> If you start Word using
> Start => Run: Winword.exe /a
> you'll end up with Word out of the box loading without your saved
normal.dot
> file, with no macros and no Add-Ins. You may notice that it loads much
more
> quickly than you are used to seing. When you close it, you won't get the
> "normal.dot" prompt. Doing this may fix the problem, by itself, but
probably
> will not. Generally, it is a diagnostic, not a fix.
>
> So, what you need to do is disable all of your Add-Ins (don't delete
them).
> Start by moving .dot files out of your Word Startup folder, one-by-one,
with
> Word closed. Restart Word and see if that Add-In caused the problem. If
not,
> put it back in and take the next one out. (You can put them in a
sub-folder
> of your Startup folder.) If none of them are the problem, move to the .com
> Add-Ins that have to be uninstalled.
>
> If your offender is not on my list, please write back and let us know
which
> one caused your problems.
>
> Write to the company that put out the Add-In with a complaint, and
possibly
> a bill for your time.
>
> Hope this helps,
> --
>
> Charles Kenyon
>
> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>
> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>
> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
>
> "Eric" wrote in message
> news:utemXir7FHA.3044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Hello,
> >
> > We currently use Word97 with a read only normal.dot file on the network
> > setup as a workgroup template. It allows me to standardize our document
> > with
> > the same page setup but also to bring customized toolbars to all my
users.
> > When I try the same configuration with Word 2003 everytime I exit I am
> > asked
> > if I want to save the normal.dot that's being shared on the network.
> >
> > What has changed? Any way to make it work the same way?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Eric.
> >
> >
>
>
date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:45:09 -0500
author: Eric
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